OFFICIAL Make America Healthy Again Game Thread - Featuring Dr Anthony Chaffee
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Here's a partial argument against going 100% carnivore, but going 95% carnivore instead. Although there is another video where Rogan says his brain works noticeably better if he's 100% carnivore.
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I would like to see more data including a control group. An N of one is not a sufficient sample size for anything statistically valid. Additionally would like to see his blood work over time.
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Stalin - but that's the inherent problem with doing one's own research on the internet. There's an infinite amount of information out there, some of it valuable, and lot of it being garbage.
I listened to this for the first 10 mins or so, and immediately started getting the "these are 2 peeps with a pro carnivore agenda" vibes. One can click hundreds of articles on the web saying the Okinawans, Sardinians, etc, eat a mix of carbs, veggies as well as animal proteins. Are they 100% accurate - I don't know? I would assume they aren't eating the SAD (standard American diet).
My mind isn't closed to the idea that pure carnivore could be effective in some individuals for weight loss. There seems to be some anecdotes to suggest it can. But without there being some clinical trials re: the long term risk for cardiovascular disease and/or other health issues, I'm going to be skeptic.
The various "extreme" diets set off all sorts of red flags in my mind. In all the chats I've had with my PCPs, you start with the "low hanging" fruit- e.g., cutting out alcohol, processed crap food, sugar, etc, and focus heavily on physical activity.
The low hanging fruit for me is more Perrier with Electrolytes and less beers and whiskey. But god damn it, I love the hedonistic pleasure of alcohol.
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The problem isn’t ignoring.
It’s the outright suppression of natural and alternative treatment.
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@pawz #FuckVanilla
Can you define what you mean by "natural remedy"?
I agree that western medicine has a major issue with profit motive, and that it is also focused on symptom → treatment instead of holistic treatment.
Nutrition education aside, doctors know damn well that eating healthier and exercising more are the first two things that 90%+ of their patients need to do and would prevent or reduce many of the ailments they are tasked to treat. How many Americans want to do that? How many actually do? We can debate specifically what eating healthy means but I think we can all agree the current SAD can be easily improved upon.
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People want easy. And easy doesn't last
When the gang of contractors met up again at a walk through after covid everyone had lost weight and looked better
We talked about it and no one was grabbing fast food on the run but were eating at home and exercising in all the free time. Covid restrictions lasted a long time in California
High stress and shitty food and lack of even a brisk walk takes a toll
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I often say that doctors need significantly more training in psychology and sales (communication) to convince their patients to actually do what they need to do. It's the only way to overcome people wanting easy which doesn't last.
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I'm pretty sure I haven't posted this… But after I had instructed the doctors to remove my dad's feeding tube, then I ended up calling my surgeon from I-5 wondering if I was going to suffocate to death on the freeway. He instructed me to meet him at the Evergreen Hospital emergency room. While he was tending to me, he asked what I had eaten that day. I told him I had half a steak and a hard-boiled egg. He shook his head in disgust and said that was the worst possible thing I could have done. I asked what I was supposed to do, and he told me to eat Jell-O and applesauce. When I scoffed at the idea of eating all that sugar, he looked at me said "You eat all the sugar you want." When I told him that he was telling me to eat poison, he looked at me and repeated condescendingly "You eat all the sugar you want."
This all coming one day after having 5-hour surgery on my neck. I emailed Dr Chaffee and gave him all the details. Chaffee was saying these people were out of their fucking minds. He said you need protein to recover from something like this. Jello and applesauce have zero nutrition. Etc…
This was a prominent surgeon telling me to eat sugar and stay away from meat. Absolutely blew my mind.
