Meanwhile, at Cal still too high
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”could” is a long leap from what you posted, doofus.
You’re a psychopath.
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You shouldn’t talk about monolithic observations to justify bad behavior.
Trump is literally Hitler so throw the legal system at a political opponent over countless, baseless charges.
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It's too bad the clown car showed up. We disagree but we can discuss it. I don't think you're a Hamas supporter
H is just a leftist who hates America and loves her enemies
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Secret code to hitch a ride in H’s Clown Car is a thumbs down signal.
@MelloDawg figured that one out.
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So, you're saying Israel has not tried to make peace with Palestinian Arabs? I mean, what you said could also apply to the IDF soldier who fired the most recent bullet. That's not trying to make peace either. At some point, you go on the offensive.
You're calling bullshit on my last paragraph? All of it? Do you deny that Palestinian Arabs were allowed to work and, conditionally, live in Israel? Do you deny there is an Arab Muslim on Israel's high court? Do you deny that Israel was the source of water and power to Gaza? Do you deny that any Palestinian who wanted to live by the rules would have been more than welcomed to do so? Do you deny that Palestinian Arabs used the work permit system to get over the Israeli border to conduct intel for, or as, Hamas? What part are you calling bullshit?
And why must we always waste so much time with hyperbole? Nobody on this site is advocating for a final solution to the Palestinian Arabs. The comparisons with Hitler and the Third Reich are simply childish. Tell ya what, let's ask:
Tugs - do any of you support the systematic extermination of the Palestinian Arabs? That is, should Israel, or anyone, just fucking glass the entire region and not leave a living soul alive? Women, children, elderly, handicapped? Everyone? Just go SS on them? If you believe this, please raise your hand so I can make clear that we are not aligned.
Let's give that a few minutes. If we get the appropriate negative or silent responses, can we dispense with the "everyone who doesn't agree with me politically is Hitler" routine? It's annoying and very junior high.
Yes, I am aware that there are normal and peaceful people who live[d] in Gaza. I am also aware that a significant number of those who live[d] in Gaza supported a terrorist organization and think as you charged others here as thinking: that it's not only ok, but morally compelling to kill Jews and eliminate the state of Israel. Not just a few crazies. 3rd grade school teachers.
At some point, everybody pays for the sins of their government. The Gazans chose theirs, which was supported by an overwhelming majority. Hamas is everywhere there.
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I don't understand. Please explain.
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Another supporter of open borders for America. Also, the dazzler seems to forget that Arafat decades ago was given essentially a two state solution. He turned it down because of Bibi's 4 corner delay game - apparently. And also because if Arafat settled for peace he would have been killed because the Palis didn't want peace they wanted the Jews out.
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The bigger picture is Israel is the start not the end
Selling out Israel won't save America or Europe. Selling out Czechoslovakia didn't save Europe
And I am AGAINST genocide
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Gasbag says extermination in 2024 is justified. Cuz Arafat, of course.
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Israel was permitting a small fraction of the entry from Gaza that was permitted twenty years ago. Yes, I’m calling bullshit. And that’s not to pretend emigration to Israel is all that desirable for a non-Jewish Arab. Moving to Israel as a minority isn’t just like moving to Western Europe, the US, or Canada.
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Not what I said. You leftards are claiming genocide. I posted the population numbers, otherwise known as the facts and not the feelings. When you need to lie to make your point, maybe you don't have a point. I'd actually ask what you think Israel should do, but that would be outside of your ability. Your side thinks they should surrender their border and then see what happens. Palis and their supporters are saying "From the River to the Sea." The Jews aren't saying "From the Sea to the River."
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Roughly 20% of Israel's population are Arab. Estimates of Arab Muslims in Israel are on the low end 14+% of the population, and on the high end over 18%. That region is packed with people of those and other religions and they are used to rubbing elbows. If anybody from Gaza is uncomfortable emigrating to Israel, you know exactly who is to blame for that awkwardness. Incidentally, how many Jews were in Gaza? Why do you suppose that was? Were they safe and welcome? Or would a person of obvious Jewish affiliation have survived a single evening in Gaza City?
As to how many work permits were being issued relative to another time, it appears that the ban by the military post 10/7 was enough to hit the economy and force the hardliners to make exceptions.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/amid-ostensible-ban-tens-of-thousands-of-palestinians-working-in-israel-report/?__cf_chl_tk=DC0fKQxD3e0zWTQ_52r8VHAwv1vVGqj_BPeozR1iaxM-1711754213-0.0.1.1-1770
It's good to see that we have at least moved on from "you're Hitler" nonsense.
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He hasn’t moved past it. I’m surprised anyone would spend significant time answering the guy. He’s not going to read what you posted, and on the off chance he does, he won’t acknowledge it. He’s a 60+ year-old internet troll.
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nothings changed with me.
China has the right idea on Islam.
Europe will eventually figure it out and it’s going to look mighty similar
everyone will be like how did we get here?Well it’s been pretty fucking obvious for a while
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It's gonna be 1490 all over again
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my god H getting shredded by Creep.
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Or X490 in Tartaria.
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I'm not on team genocide. I don't think genocide is on the table. That they use their own people as shields does say something about 'em. They've had 5 chances for their own nation. Israel agreed to give up land etc. The caveat is always that all Jews must die. I can't fix their kind of stupid. Muslims in Israel live well.
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Are you not in support of work permits for Palestinians to leave their home (Gaza)?
HH was in support of locking people in their homes unless they had a permit - a vaccine card.
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Biden sends billions to Iran
What matters more?
Leaders of Hamas call for death to America
H agrees
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I don’t recall voting for or even mentioning whoever that is, lady. You actively support and defend the “Death to America” crowd all the time, though. I’m old enough to remember Palestinians dancing in the streets on 9/11/01 to celebrate the deaths.
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Whoooooosh
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you came back just to do that?
unlike literally every poster who frequents the Tug, I always give you the courtesy of an above-board response. I actually want to know what someone left of center has to say about this issue. Perhaps this is why you get clown-car'd here.
I want to hear more about this "sort them". How do you do that? Has the US ever sorted any population before military action? Did the Allies look for fine people on both sides in Germany, Italy or Japan first? Israel is a country that is literally surrounded by those who want to see their extermination. And unlike you, those people don't want to "sort the Jews" to find the acceptable ones, because in their view there is no such thing.
I want to be challenged by a coherent argument that the population of Arab Muslims in the area we call Palestine are not overwhelmingly hostile to Israel and support (if not actively engage in) activity that is intended for its destruction. I mean, that appears to be the fact. No?
Don't you distinguish between a country like Israel, which embraces democratic values and welcomes a diverse citizenry (even though the country was founded on principles or a history of religion) and what a separate Palestinian state would be? Do you not find any humor in seeing Gay Pride flags and women screaming in men's faces at "Free Palestine" rallies when you know full well neither of those people would survive a day in pre-10/7 Gaza?
How does all that strike you? Honestly. These are not rhetorical questions. Throw something out there.
The left has completely abandoned a fully functioning democracy that exists in a geography where totalitarianism, xenophobia, homophobia, misogyny and sectarian (religious and cultural) zealousy is the rule rather than the exception. It has been, and will always be, a place ruled by goons.
I would think every far left extremist in the US would be secretly rooting on Team Israel to go full tilt and level the fucking place … for real. Instead, it has responded to world pressure (and probably just because of who they are) and has tried to do the impossible: selectively target and kill Hamas in a densely populated place where they are virtually indistinguishable for the general population.
Again, I ask: tell me about this sorting you speak of. I don't get it.
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You mean I can't propose an all-encompassing comprehensive solution to this problem here on the Tug? Imagine that.
I do know that if you assume your opponents are inhuman, you'll be able to justify anything done to them. Of course, I'd say the same thing to a Palestinian. I can hold both Hamas apologists and Israel Uber Alles advocates in contempt at the exact same time.
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You act like you’re special and that the idiotic troll is going to be bowled over by your wasted time responding to him with facts and consistent logic.
He’s trolling you hard and he loves it. It’s that simple. It excites him that you’d spend the time directing anything at him.
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also would like to know what you think about a US senator chanting "from the river to the sea" and her bullshit denial that it is a saying that is hostile to Israel, but rather an "aspirational call for freedom, human rights and peaceful coexistence, not death, destruction or hate,"
I think you and I have agreed in other threads here that when you have to lie to support, justify or explain your words it usually means that you know your position is weak and you're full of shit.
Is what's her face full of shit? She's the only Palestinian in Congress and that's what she gets caught saying. And she doesn't see the irony that she says it on a platform afforded to few and one which she wouldn't have a snowball's chance in the Saudi desert of having anywhere in her home region.
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High school shit right here. A binary thinker.
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I think it's fucking stupid and pretending it doesn't mean what everyone knows it means is just a Left-wing version of "January 6 was tourist event".
