You mean I can't propose an all-encompassing comprehensive solution to this problem here on the Tug? Imagine that.
I do know that if you assume your opponents are inhuman, you'll be able to justify anything done to them. Of course, I'd say the same thing to a Palestinian. I can hold both Hamas apologists and Israel Uber Alles advocates in contempt at the exact same time.
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well, propose it to me. I have interacted with you very differently than literally every other poster here. you can't use that martyr routine with me.
and on what basis do you assume anyone thinks anyone else is inhuman? who said that? when? did I say that? have the Israelis said that as they've switched to a ground war in which they're trying to thread the needle and getting more IDF killed in the process? you are aware, I assume, that Israel didn't need to send in a single soldier to finish this thing off. they could have finished this in a couple of days from remote.
if you'd say the same to a Palestinian, and I take you at your word, then how do you reconcile the fact that the clear majority of them approved and celebrate 10/7? that the clear majority (more than a majority that is) believe in the elimination of Israel as a state? And many throw in the people in that view?
I'm not saying Israel is perfect here and that there aren't bigoted zealots on the Israeli side of this. But even from a slightly elevated POV, there is a clear good side and bad side in this conflict. If you had a gun to your head and had to choose a society to eliminate, which would you pick? Which society seems better fit to go on? Who stirs most of the shit? You know as well as I do that any society willing to live along side an Israeli border could do so in peace and prosper if they would just quit trying to blow the place up. It's a fundamental problem, to put it mildly.
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I am special. Ask around.
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H is just a fucking lightweight leftist who hates America and loves her enemies and lacks the guts to say so as he rides the clown car
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More like drives the clown car
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Well, I give up. Sometimes, the world just forces you to take sides. This "fine people" shit doesn't apply over there. It's a different place. The closest thing to fundamental western values is Team Israel, and that's who I choose.
And I believe 100% that I am choosing light over darkness. I'm a pretty middle-of-the-road guy, as you well know. But on this, I am quite convinced about who needs to emerge with total victory and am at the point where, if I were in charge of things, would tell them to do what they have to do. There is no fucking going back now anyway. And I think that point of no going back was 10/7. Somebody does that to you on your soil, if you don't punch back you're fucked forever. That's Black Hills tough talk right there, but it's true.
This isn't just about Hamas, for those keeping score. This is about the Arab Muslim world. And the message has been delivered pretty clearly.
The real discussion (because there is no discussion vis a vis Gaza and Pali) is Iran. They are the real issue here.
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Mooselimbs rarely play nice if they think they can kill you. They will try and kill you. That includes everyone except mooselimbs. Everyone. The Crusades quieted them for 1000 years bu people forget the mooslimbs got all the way to Austria and conquered 550 Christian cities/areas and did what Mooselimbs do.
The crusades killed them until they were tired of getting killed. They remembered for 1000 years. They will never change. They do not want to and hate us with the heat of a thousand suns.
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I watched videos on telegram of what transpired on 10/7. Men laughing while shooting little kids running away and high fiving over it. Rapes and kidnapping and worse shit. It was all cheered on by the Arab world and the Palestinians loved it. Just look at the responses here in the US.
Anyone remotely defending this is way fucking over their skis to put it mildly. They deserve to be forced to see some real evil in their own lives to understand.
And to your point, as far as the Israeli's are concerned they should be able to treat this as Dresden or Tokyo but they haven't. They are risking good peoples lives to spare the 10/10000 innocent in Sodom.
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That pretty well puts a bow on it.
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pull funding from Israel and tell them to do what they need to do. They’re no longer bound by our rules or politics
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Biden’s Iranian allies are looking for a reason to obliterate Israel and that could be reason enough to do so. I don’t much care either way, but Schumer calling for Israeli elections while ignoring the terrorists governing Gaza is already a tell.
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I wonder how much they launder through Gaza?
