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  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,927 Founders Club
    FireCohen said:

    We will be 8-4 next year

    I think next year depends on how much of a wizard DeBoer really is. I'm pulling for 10-2 as a realistic goal. I was cocky about UW's scheme being able to throw over and around the Big 10 but Monday has me really questioning that, especially on the road.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,372
    AEB said:

    Having Courtney Morgan I think will prove to a big, positive difference from 2017. Great Athletic article about how he recruited the Michigan class (especially the DL) that beat us(?). He’s organizing the roster and targeting recruits across HS and the portal. With the higher profile will come better players.

    Recruiting was not our problem with Pete after 2016. It was his shitty offense and tightness in big games. Recruiting seems to be a bigger issue now and it has more to do with money.
  • sinceredawg
    sinceredawg Member Posts: 872

    Strengths are flipped, we have tier 1 offense, defense trying to keep up. In 17 it was a tier 1 defense and ultimately a clunky offense.

    Not sure this is a valid conclusion. We had more talent on offense, it seemed. But there were too many games where it was our defense that won it, or kept us in it.
  • biak1
    biak1 Member Posts: 4,237
    Next year is clearly a transition year whilst waiting for the Mack show. 10 wins is feasible but that comes down to KDB genius (or not). There are more pieces missing/being lost compared to the 2017 team. Not a lot of younger guys flashing this year. Germie and ?
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,576 Founders Club
    FireCohen said:

    We will be 8-4 next year

    5-7

    @MikeDamone
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,777 Founders Club
    edited January 2024
    Either way it’s a big show me season… try to bolster against regressing, see how we can leverage success into recruiting and KDB installing his program even further

    After 2016 I’m sure none of us thought that was the Petersen high point, in hindsight it was. Let’s see how KDB takes the next step.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited January 2024

    FireCohen said:

    We will be 8-4 next year

    I think next year depends on how much of a wizard DeBoer really is. I'm pulling for 10-2 as a realistic goal. I was cocky about UW's scheme being able to throw over and around the Big 10 but Monday has me really questioning that, especially on the road.
    I was on the same boat at 10-2, but that was with Polk returning. With Polk leaving 8-4 more realistic
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,769 Swaye's Wigwam
    FireCohen said:

    We will be 8-4 next year

    Top 12 finish or GFYS deboner.
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,927 Founders Club
    I hate it but really feels like WE were in a much better place personnel wise going into 2017 and that's not even knowing how truly great Vita was gonna be. I don't think Deboer is burnt out like Petersen was though and he's not gonna ruin his QB the way that regime did with Browning.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,777 Founders Club
    Agreed 17 had better pieces coming back and had a higher ceiling as a result.

    My point is that it’s now program building time. We need to recruit at an elite level now. Petersen struggled to convert 2016 into consistent talent and depth, this is a big show me off-season for KDB and the staff. I expect results on the field taking a step back this fall, however are we putting the pieces in place to get back to this point and go further.

    If Dannen tries to nickel and dime, KDB shrivel dicks in recruiting, and/or we try to make this current style of football permanent then TPIO.

    We failed to convert 2016 isn’t blue blood zone, eyes are on Dannen and KDB to cash in this equity