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Need ONE ticket to Hamilton

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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,139 Standard Supporter
    Given the historical level of gayness here, kind of surprised at the hating on Broadway.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,751 Founders Club
    chuck said:

    Hamilton exists so old white people can pat themselves on the back and tell their adult children that they've listened to rap music.

    Kids don't know shit. I was listening when Run DMC and Aerosmith invented rap music.
    Sugar Hill and Grandmaster Flash broke in the 70s
  • TheHBTheHB Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,001 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    Hamilton exists so old white people can pat themselves on the back and tell their adult children that they've listened to rap music.

    Kids don't know shit. I was listening when Run DMC and Aerosmith invented rap music.
    Sugar Hill and Grandmaster Flash broke in the 70s
    Hell, even fucking Blondie had a rap song in the 70’s
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,041 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    Hamilton exists so old white people can pat themselves on the back and tell their adult children that they've listened to rap music.

    Kids don't know shit. I was listening when Run DMC and Aerosmith invented rap music.
    Sugar Hill and Grandmaster Flash broke in the 70s
    Yeah there was meant to be some obvious irony in that comment. I do think that was a big deal as far as bringing it to the masses though.
    TheHB said:

    chuck said:

    Hamilton exists so old white people can pat themselves on the back and tell their adult children that they've listened to rap music.

    Kids don't know shit. I was listening when Run DMC and Aerosmith invented rap music.
    Sugar Hill and Grandmaster Flash broke in the 70s
    Hell, even fucking Blondie had a rap song in the 70’s
    Dylan had a rap song in 1964.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,139 Standard Supporter

    chuck said:

    Hamilton exists so old white people can pat themselves on the back and tell their adult children that they've listened to rap music.

    Kids don't know shit. I was listening when Run DMC and Aerosmith invented rap music.
    Sugar Hill and Grandmaster Flash broke in the 70s
    That was only for us black folk.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,751 Founders Club
    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    Hamilton exists so old white people can pat themselves on the back and tell their adult children that they've listened to rap music.

    Kids don't know shit. I was listening when Run DMC and Aerosmith invented rap music.
    Sugar Hill and Grandmaster Flash broke in the 70s
    Yeah there was meant to be some obvious irony in that comment. I do think that was a big deal as far as bringing it to the masses though.
    TheHB said:

    chuck said:

    Hamilton exists so old white people can pat themselves on the back and tell their adult children that they've listened to rap music.

    Kids don't know shit. I was listening when Run DMC and Aerosmith invented rap music.
    Sugar Hill and Grandmaster Flash broke in the 70s
    Hell, even fucking Blondie had a rap song in the 70’s
    Dylan had a rap song in 1964.
    I agree. Aerosmith and Run DMC on MTV was a seminal moment
  • EsophagealFecesEsophagealFeces Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,085 Swaye's Wigwam
    RTD said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Yo did u know Hamilton was a white guy?

    Pretty sure he was Peurto Rican.
    Can confirm. His real name was Alejandro Hamiltón.
  • CFetters_Nacho_LoverCFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,327 Founders Club

    As a proud holder of a B of A in History from a Public Ivy (hi @creepycoug !!) I would never go to see Hamilton.

    Me and other scholars like @pawz like to get our history from thick 800 to 1000 page Chernow authored bios.

    Learning history from hip hop Broadway? GTFOH!

    I guess I’m not a scholar as you recommended shorter books to me.
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,025 Swaye's Wigwam
  • Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 7,999 Standard Supporter

    As a proud holder of a B of A in History from a Public Ivy (hi @creepycoug !!) I would never go to see Hamilton.

    Me and other scholars like @pawz like to get our history from thick 800 to 1000 page Chernow authored bios.

    Learning history from hip hop Broadway? GTFOH!

    I also hold history credentials from the same fine institution, and while the musical butchers most facts about Hamilton’s life, I take the opposite stance.

    I happily saw the musical, which I enjoyed, and was thrilled it’s served as a “gateway drug” for many young people and got them interested in the subject again.

    Sadly in this era of misinformation and overemphasis on STEM, fields vital to our society like history, civics, and philosophy need the FREE PUB!
  • Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 7,999 Standard Supporter

    Given the historical level of gayness here, kind of surprised at the hating on Broadway.

    Maybe they’re just big 1776 fans.

    https://youtu.be/AK1hX_j0-E4?si=NVkBy7CvQCV5IwzE?t=04m55s
  • sinceredawgsinceredawg Member Posts: 798
    chuck said:

    Hamilton exists so old white people can pat themselves on the back and tell their adult children that they've listened to rap music.

    Kids don't know shit. I was listening when Run DMC and Aerosmith invented rap music.
    Subterrainian Homesick Blues - Dylan invented rap.https://youtu.be/MGxjIBEZvx0?si=YIy3PbUq_tTzltZi
  • Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 7,999 Standard Supporter

    As a proud holder of a B of A in History from a Public Ivy (hi @creepycoug !!) I would never go to see Hamilton.

    Me and other scholars like @pawz like to get our history from thick 800 to 1000 page Chernow authored bios.

    Learning history from hip hop Broadway? GTFOH!

    I also hold history credentials from the same fine institution, and while the musical butchers most facts about Hamilton’s life, I take the opposite stance.

    I happily saw the musical, which I enjoyed, and was thrilled it’s served as a “gateway drug” for many young people and got them interested in the subject again.

    Sadly in this era of misinformation and overemphasis on STEM, fields vital to our society like history, civics, and philosophy need the FREE PUB!
    I took an intro to philosophy class, and it was a big revelation. I thought it would just be an easy GUR, but it ended up being somewhat life-changing. First few weeks of the class were all about basic boolean logic. Turns out debate is nothing but math in another language, and fuck the public school system for not addressing this sooner!

    I'm not going to go as far as saying that a philosophy degree is useful in 2024, but I will say that not teaching basic logic to, say, middle-schoolers is perhaps the biggest failing of the education system in our country. Not teaching kids how easy it is to manipulate people with logic has to be the biggest contributor to the negative aspects of society that I can think of.
    Yes! I’m in no way saying that people should be majoring in philosophy, but taking a free course on it via Khan Academy or even watching the series “The Good Place” (a comedy that delves into moral philosophy) is a GOOD thing because that curriculum was completely gutted by most places. It’s the study of knowledge and the meaning of life for fuck sake, and that’s where everything should start.
  • sinceredawgsinceredawg Member Posts: 798

    As a proud holder of a B of A in History from a Public Ivy (hi @creepycoug !!) I would never go to see Hamilton.

    Me and other scholars like @pawz like to get our history from thick 800 to 1000 page Chernow authored bios.

    Learning history from hip hop Broadway? GTFOH!

    I also hold history credentials from the same fine institution, and while the musical butchers most facts about Hamilton’s life, I take the opposite stance.

    I happily saw the musical, which I enjoyed, and was thrilled it’s served as a “gateway drug” for many young people and got them interested in the subject again.

    Sadly in this era of misinformation and overemphasis on STEM, fields vital to our society like history, civics, and philosophy need the FREE PUB!
    I took an intro to philosophy class, and it was a big revelation. I thought it would just be an easy GUR, but it ended up being somewhat life-changing. First few weeks of the class were all about basic boolean logic. Turns out debate is nothing but math in another language, and fuck the public school system for not addressing this sooner!

    I'm not going to go as far as saying that a philosophy degree is useful in 2024, but I will say that not teaching basic logic to, say, middle-schoolers is perhaps the biggest failing of the education system in our country. Not teaching kids how easy it is to manipulate people with logic has to be the biggest contributor to the negative aspects of society that I can think of.
    Yes! I’m in no way saying that people should be majoring in philosophy, but taking a free course on it via Khan Academy or even watching the series “The Good Place” (a comedy that delves into moral philosophy) is a GOOD thing because that curriculum was completely gutted by most places. It’s the study of knowledge and the meaning of life for fuck sake, and that’s where everything should start.
    I happen to agree with you, but I know that 81% of the country would say that it starts with Jesus, or with saying that slavery was beneficial to everyone.
  • Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 7,999 Standard Supporter

    As a proud holder of a B of A in History from a Public Ivy (hi @creepycoug !!) I would never go to see Hamilton.

    Me and other scholars like @pawz like to get our history from thick 800 to 1000 page Chernow authored bios.

    Learning history from hip hop Broadway? GTFOH!

    I also hold history credentials from the same fine institution, and while the musical butchers most facts about Hamilton’s life, I take the opposite stance.

    I happily saw the musical, which I enjoyed, and was thrilled it’s served as a “gateway drug” for many young people and got them interested in the subject again.

    Sadly in this era of misinformation and overemphasis on STEM, fields vital to our society like history, civics, and philosophy need the FREE PUB!
    I took an intro to philosophy class, and it was a big revelation. I thought it would just be an easy GUR, but it ended up being somewhat life-changing. First few weeks of the class were all about basic boolean logic. Turns out debate is nothing but math in another language, and fuck the public school system for not addressing this sooner!

    I'm not going to go as far as saying that a philosophy degree is useful in 2024, but I will say that not teaching basic logic to, say, middle-schoolers is perhaps the biggest failing of the education system in our country. Not teaching kids how easy it is to manipulate people with logic has to be the biggest contributor to the negative aspects of society that I can think of.
    Yep. Good post.

    It’s still relevant and useful because it teaches you how to think and write critically. Most people don’t earn their living doing something they specifically studied in college.
    My father once said reading philosophy made him a better lawyer. And his undergraduate history classes taught him how to write.
  • Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 7,999 Standard Supporter

    As a proud holder of a B of A in History from a Public Ivy (hi @creepycoug !!) I would never go to see Hamilton.

    Me and other scholars like @pawz like to get our history from thick 800 to 1000 page Chernow authored bios.

    Learning history from hip hop Broadway? GTFOH!

    I also hold history credentials from the same fine institution, and while the musical butchers most facts about Hamilton’s life, I take the opposite stance.

    I happily saw the musical, which I enjoyed, and was thrilled it’s served as a “gateway drug” for many young people and got them interested in the subject again.

    Sadly in this era of misinformation and overemphasis on STEM, fields vital to our society like history, civics, and philosophy need the FREE PUB!
    I took an intro to philosophy class, and it was a big revelation. I thought it would just be an easy GUR, but it ended up being somewhat life-changing. First few weeks of the class were all about basic boolean logic. Turns out debate is nothing but math in another language, and fuck the public school system for not addressing this sooner!

    I'm not going to go as far as saying that a philosophy degree is useful in 2024, but I will say that not teaching basic logic to, say, middle-schoolers is perhaps the biggest failing of the education system in our country. Not teaching kids how easy it is to manipulate people with logic has to be the biggest contributor to the negative aspects of society that I can think of.
    Yes! I’m in no way saying that people should be majoring in philosophy, but taking a free course on it via Khan Academy or even watching the series “The Good Place” (a comedy that delves into moral philosophy) is a GOOD thing because that curriculum was completely gutted by most places. It’s the study of knowledge and the meaning of life for fuck sake, and that’s where everything should start.
    I happen to agree with you, but I know that 81% of the country would say that it starts with Jesus, or with saying that slavery was beneficial to everyone.
    Well, many of the OG philosophers were slave holders AND big into god(s)!

    I guess to circle back to Hamilton (we still haven’t found that extra ticket for @PurpleBaze BTW), it just sucks that it takes a hip-hop musical to make learning/our? past interesting or cool.

    But I’m a big fucking nerd, and tore through that Chernow book in a weekend.
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