Defensive Stop Rates
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I think most would agree that our defense isn't bad, it's just not good. It's just average...and that isn't good enough.
We put up with it because we have an elite offense and are riding a 17 game win streak. The D also shows streaks of being good- but then has like 12 missed tackles on a simple bubble screen.
If our offense wasn't so good, our D would've lost us like four or five games this year alone and then we'd be wanting to tarmac the entire D staff.
I'm good going in a new direction on D in the off-season. The D staff isn't elite and will hold us back in future years. -
The good news is Oregon State’s defense isn’t good either. They force a lot more turnovers than we do, but if we can avoid those we should be fine. More concerned with their offense of fast midget receivers and bully running backs.
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I'd say they are solidly below average. There is rarely any push on the pocket and when there is the ends are outrun; line backers are out of position and slow (watch how many times a back passes one of them and they reach one arm out like an injun trying to count coup); the defensive backfield shows some promise but most of the time they are out of position and couldn't tackle their own grandmothers (who are 32 years old, by the way) in a phone booth; and E. Jackson.DoogDawg said:I think most would agree that our defense isn't bad, it's just not good. It's just average...and that isn't good enough.
We put up with it because we have an elite offense and are riding a 17 game win streak. The D also shows streaks of being good- but then has like 12 missed tackles on a simple bubble screen.
If our offense wasn't so good, our D would've lost us like four or five games this year alone and then we'd be wanting to tarmac the entire D staff.
I'm good going in a new direction on D in the off-season. The D staff isn't elite and will hold us back in future years. -
It's below average historically but not below average for 2023.SkipBoyd said:
I'd say they are solidly below average. There is rarely any push on the pocket and when there is the ends are outrun; line backers are out of position and slow (watch how many times a back passes one of them and they reach one arm out like an injun trying to count coup); the defensive backfield shows some promise but most of the time they are out of position and couldn't tackle their own grandmothers (who are 32 years old, by the way) in a phone booth; and E. Jackson.DoogDawg said:I think most would agree that our defense isn't bad, it's just not good. It's just average...and that isn't good enough.
We put up with it because we have an elite offense and are riding a 17 game win streak. The D also shows streaks of being good- but then has like 12 missed tackles on a simple bubble screen.
If our offense wasn't so good, our D would've lost us like four or five games this year alone and then we'd be wanting to tarmac the entire D staff.
I'm good going in a new direction on D in the off-season. The D staff isn't elite and will hold us back in future years.
The game has changed, all of the rules favor the offense. Dominating defense isn't really a thing unless you're in the B1G where the offenses are stuck in 1985.
It *feels* like a below average defense because we(?)re old. -
Yep. Which is why the top four teams in this particular metric are all B1G teams.dnc said:
It's below average historically but not below average for 2023.SkipBoyd said:
I'd say they are solidly below average. There is rarely any push on the pocket and when there is the ends are outrun; line backers are out of position and slow (watch how many times a back passes one of them and they reach one arm out like an injun trying to count coup); the defensive backfield shows some promise but most of the time they are out of position and couldn't tackle their own grandmothers (who are 32 years old, by the way) in a phone booth; and E. Jackson.DoogDawg said:I think most would agree that our defense isn't bad, it's just not good. It's just average...and that isn't good enough.
We put up with it because we have an elite offense and are riding a 17 game win streak. The D also shows streaks of being good- but then has like 12 missed tackles on a simple bubble screen.
If our offense wasn't so good, our D would've lost us like four or five games this year alone and then we'd be wanting to tarmac the entire D staff.
I'm good going in a new direction on D in the off-season. The D staff isn't elite and will hold us back in future years.
The game has changed, all of the rules favor the offense. Dominating defense isn't really a thing unless you're in the B1G where the offenses are stuck in 1985.
It *feels* like a below average defense because we(?)re old. -
If they could just look less pathetic tackling the ball carrier 3-6 times a game I would be relatively ok with where the defence is at
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Defense is pretty bad with flashes of being good. Getting gashed by Utah at home has no silver lining.
The best you can say about them is that they actually do adjust and play hard to the end. This is a reflection of the head coach.
The most brutal aspect of the defense is the lack of sideline to sideline speed amongst the linebackers. -
Having Tuli back will solve some interior issues. Healthiest the team has been since Michigan State?
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I'd say so if KamFabs ankle finally stops bothering him. Even if we don't put it all together like us fans want we can still beat Oregon State. We really want a statement game, 4th quarter where the game really isn't in question.Canadawg said:Having Tuli back will solve some interior issues. Healthiest the team has been since Michigan State?
I think we are comfortable knowing we could probably beat Washington State by just pulverizing them with DJ and crew on the ground.
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Dingdong looked surprisingly fast running that pick (almost 6) down the sideline. I was impressed right up to where he crossed the 2 yard line.Kingdome_Urinals said:Defense is pretty bad with flashes of being good. Getting gashed by Utah at home has no silver lining.
The best you can say about them is that they actually do adjust and play hard to the end. This is a reflection of the head coach.
The most brutal aspect of the defense is the lack of sideline to sideline speed amongst the linebackers.
The linebackers are just like the safeties in terms of pursuit angles...they don't use or understand them somehow...and it makes them look slow as they wave or dive at the feet of ball carriers blowing by them.
@backthepack says they're good so there must be some metrics supporting that, but they don't pass the eye test for me. Bruener makes some good hits, but he doesn't always show up. Tupetala and Ulo take too many bad angles and let guys get past them too often.
