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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,810 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    Defense is pretty bad with flashes of being good. Getting gashed by Utah at home has no silver lining.

    The best you can say about them is that they actually do adjust and play hard to the end. This is a reflection of the head coach.

    The most brutal aspect of the defense is the lack of sideline to sideline speed amongst the linebackers.

    Brock made an interesting point last week. He said one of the reasons the defense is so good late is that our defense rotates liberally, this keeps everyone fresh for late in the games. I don't like the deep rotations strategy generally but if this is actually the cause of them being so good late I might be able to get on bored with it.
    It's also worth mention that's even with the injuries and usual in season attrition last year, the defense got better. I know dropped pass helped twice but holding Texas under 20 was an impressive feat for a defense that was rightfully maligned for most of the season.

    The liberal rotation pays off in multiple ways. One of those is that the reserves you end up needing late in the season have been getting regular game reps all season.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,594 Swaye's Wigwam
    I don’t think this defense is “average”.

    All I want to see is purple… or even a death row d type crew.

    Since then has the game changed so much that it can’t be expected? Teams were running the RPO and the air-raid then.

    I think it’s realistic to have a D that talks shit and smokes weed or pisses it’s self on the field.

    The talent has to improve BUT I think the coaches are the issue. Better coaches would be getting more from this D. Should be at least…

    Congrats though on figuring out how to stop teams for two drives in the fourth quarter. Do that for 5 consecutive games and we’re on to something.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,594 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    Defense is pretty bad with flashes of being good. Getting gashed by Utah at home has no silver lining.

    The best you can say about them is that they actually do adjust and play hard to the end. This is a reflection of the head coach.

    The most brutal aspect of the defense is the lack of sideline to sideline speed amongst the linebackers.

    Brock made an interesting point last week. He said one of the reasons the defense is so good late is that our defense rotates liberally, this keeps everyone fresh for late in the games. I don't like the deep rotations strategy generally but if this is actually the cause of them being so good late I might be able to get on bored with it.
    Hoping that this translates to a more experienced above “average” D next year!
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 13,014

    dnc said:

    Defense is pretty bad with flashes of being good. Getting gashed by Utah at home has no silver lining.

    The best you can say about them is that they actually do adjust and play hard to the end. This is a reflection of the head coach.

    The most brutal aspect of the defense is the lack of sideline to sideline speed amongst the linebackers.

    Brock made an interesting point last week. He said one of the reasons the defense is so good late is that our defense rotates liberally, this keeps everyone fresh for late in the games. I don't like the deep rotations strategy generally but if this is actually the cause of them being so good late I might be able to get on bored with it.
    Hoping that this translates to a more experienced above “average” D next year!
    Depends on our defensive coaching staff next year
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,810 Swaye's Wigwam

    Watching Jackson, he’s either lacking speed or athleticism or both. He gives way too much cushion and when he comes up to make a tackle he looks like a fucking retard and he can’t break down to get solid contact.

    Yeah he just sucks at playing football really. He's pretty much a guaranteed miss coming downhill in the open field. He does have decent coverage at times but is so inept at playing the ball that it doesn't matter.

    There aren't very many good players on the defense. That's a big part of why it is what it is. How blame for lack of talent gets assigned is another discussion.
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,388
    What’s the deal with Asa? He gonna play again in the regular season ?
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,358
    chuck said:

    Watching Jackson, he’s either lacking speed or athleticism or both. He gives way too much cushion and when he comes up to make a tackle he looks like a fucking retard and he can’t break down to get solid contact.

    Yeah he just sucks at playing football really. He's pretty much a guaranteed miss coming downhill in the open field. He does have decent coverage at times but is so inept at playing the ball that it doesn't matter.

    There aren't very many good players on the defense. That's a big part of why it is what it is. How blame for lack of talent gets assigned is another discussion.
    We have had two years for a safety to demonstrate that they are good. Hampton is improved but very avg since he doesn't recognize things fast enough to make negative plays. It hasn't happened and that is morrel's position group.

    I don't think he calls a particularly good game or teaches great technique or attracts great talent. We can do better. The last 3 games have been extremely disappointing by the defense.