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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,937
    phineas said:

    Canadawg said:

    If they could just look less pathetic tackling the ball carrier 3-6 times a game I would be relatively ok with where the defence is at

    it seems to me like they are in position a lot of the time, they just over commit in the open field or get shook and dragged inside. i can live with guys getting bulldozed. guys completely missing in space 90% of the time though is too much
    Completely agree. ZTF and Goforth did that pretty well against Williams in space. Accept that they're going to get a few yards but don't miss and give up 15
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,683
    Canadawg said:

    phineas said:

    Canadawg said:

    If they could just look less pathetic tackling the ball carrier 3-6 times a game I would be relatively ok with where the defence is at

    it seems to me like they are in position a lot of the time, they just over commit in the open field or get shook and dragged inside. i can live with guys getting bulldozed. guys completely missing in space 90% of the time though is too much
    Completely agree. ZTF and Goforth did that pretty well against Williams in space. Accept that they're going to get a few yards but don't miss and give up 15
    Goforth got shook out of his shoes about 10 times in the 1st half against Utah

    Didn't notice in the 2nd half but I'm assuming he wasn't in the rotation much.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    edited November 2023

    I don’t think this defense is “average”.

    All I want to see is purple… or even a death row d type crew.

    Since then has the game changed so much that it can’t be expected? Teams were running the RPO and the air-raid then.

    I think it’s realistic to have a D that talks shit and smokes weed or pisses it’s self on the field.

    The talent has to improve BUT I think the coaches are the issue. Better coaches would be getting more from this D. Should be at least…

    Congrats though on figuring out how to stop teams for two drives in the fourth quarter. Do that for 5 consecutive games and we’re on to something.

    Nobody said you can't expect to be better. I said what you're seeing now is average for the current game. Of course we could do better than average. But if we did have an above average defense most of the old heads here would call it average. If we had a great defense most of us? would call it above average. If we had an ELITE defense most of us would call it very good.

    We just don't understand how bad the average defense is these days.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,594 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    I don’t think this defense is “average”.

    All I want to see is purple… or even a death row d type crew.

    Since then has the game changed so much that it can’t be expected? Teams were running the RPO and the air-raid then.

    I think it’s realistic to have a D that talks shit and smokes weed or pisses it’s self on the field.

    The talent has to improve BUT I think the coaches are the issue. Better coaches would be getting more from this D. Should be at least…

    Congrats though on figuring out how to stop teams for two drives in the fourth quarter. Do that for 5 consecutive games and we’re on to something.

    Nobody said you can't expect to be better. I said what you're seeing now is average for the current game. Of course we could do better than average. But if we did have an above average defense most of the old heads here would call it average. If we had a great defense most of us? would call it above average. If we had an ELITE defense most of us would call it very good.

    We just don't understand how bad the average defense is these days.
    Not sure what made you think I was responding to you.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,594 Swaye's Wigwam

    dnc said:

    I don’t think this defense is “average”.

    All I want to see is purple… or even a death row d type crew.

    Since then has the game changed so much that it can’t be expected? Teams were running the RPO and the air-raid then.

    I think it’s realistic to have a D that talks shit and smokes weed or pisses it’s self on the field.

    The talent has to improve BUT I think the coaches are the issue. Better coaches would be getting more from this D. Should be at least…

    Congrats though on figuring out how to stop teams for two drives in the fourth quarter. Do that for 5 consecutive games and we’re on to something.

    Nobody said you can't expect to be better. I said what you're seeing now is average for the current game. Of course we could do better than average. But if we did have an above average defense most of the old heads here would call it average. If we had a great defense most of us? would call it above average. If we had an ELITE defense most of us would call it very good.

    We just don't understand how bad the average defense is these days.
    Not sure what made you think I was responding to you.
    Bullies don't care bro
    Truer words have never been spoken, pal.