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  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,251 Founders Club
    flatus said:

    RoadTrip said:

    flatus said:

    dnc said:

    And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.

    It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.

    I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.

    Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
    BS, your win over Utah was without Rising. Try again.
    The formula doesn't care. Are we talking about the SOR formula or just what you guys think matters?

    Like I said, who the fuck cares. Win out or STFU. It's that simple and most of you know this or you wouldn't be trying to figure out how to get into the playoff if UW loses the CCG. Relax, UW isn't going to lose to Oregon.
    So you're not on a UW site trying to convince everyone OU has a better resume?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    flatus said:

    dnc said:

    flatus said:

    dnc said:

    And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.

    It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.

    I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.

    Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
    Resume comps aren't just coming down to "who has the best road win".

    And Utah still has to play at Washington and at Arizona, it's very possible that road win loses plenty of luster before the Utes plunger the Primes.
    All true.

    But I never said the best road win was the only factor. I'm saying UW won't have one as strong as of now and road wins are weighed more heavily in the SOR calculation. If Utah loses only to UW, it will likely still remain the highest ranked P12 team at season's end. I said LIKELY.

    Regardless, the SOR will be very similar if both teams win out and UO beats UW in CCG.

    Fair enough?

    I agree, though I believe UW's will be superior in that case. Obviously a million permutations left that could tilt things in either team's direction.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,808 Swaye's Wigwam
    whlinder said:

    ntxduck said:

    But Oregon is going to lose to Oregon State. Book it. Jonathan Smith will push all the right buttons. Guy's a genius.

    Wouldnt Oregon still play us in the title game if that happens? Beav would have 3 losses
    Yes—assuming the greased up wildcats also lost another somewhere (too lazy rn to look up tiebreakers between a 7-2 az and Oregon in this scenario)
    That one becomes a mess cause I think it goes to the record vs the next highest standing P12 team, and predicting who is 6-3 is an exercise in futility.
    The one known is the only schedule difference between Arizona and Oregon is Arizona played UCLA and Oregon plays Cal, so if it gets to the one of the very last tiebreakers Arizona probably wins on UCLA > Cal.
    See the Pac-12 tiebreaker thread. Still rooting for the absolute dumbest outcome to occur.
    This. Dumbest is always best IMO when it comes to this league. The point is for it to entertain, right?
  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,779 Swaye's Wigwam
    RoadTrip said:

    flatus said:

    RoadTrip said:

    flatus said:

    dnc said:

    And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.

    It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.

    I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.

    Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
    BS, your win over Utah was without Rising. Try again.
    The formula doesn't care. Are we talking about the SOR formula or just what you guys think matters?

    Like I said, who the fuck cares. Win out or STFU. It's that simple and most of you know this or you wouldn't be trying to figure out how to get into the playoff if UW loses the CCG. Relax, UW isn't going to lose to Oregon.
    So you're not on a UW site trying to convince everyone OU has a better resume?
    NO.

    But SOR will be virtually identical IF both teams win out AND Oregon wins the CCG.

    FURTHER: IT WON'T MATTER. Win out or stay home.





  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,140 Standard Supporter
    It's so much easier with divisions. No wonder they changed it.
  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,779 Swaye's Wigwam

    It's so much easier with divisions. No wonder they changed it.

    Oregon would have an outside shot at making the playoff with divisions.

    1) UW loses CCG to South, UO wins out

    or

    2) UW and UO win out, FSU and Michigan lose, Texas looks pedestrian in B12 CCG. Oregon would need to plunger last 3 teams. Both UW and UO are in. This how @WoolleyDoog was saying the SEC and B1G frequently get 2 teams. It would be a looooong shot thanks to being in the P12 but I think there would be as good an argument as any previous scecario when conferences have gotten 2 teams in.



  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,379
    RoadTrip said:

    flatus said:

    RoadTrip said:

    flatus said:

    dnc said:

    And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.

    It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.

    I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.

    Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
    BS, your win over Utah was without Rising. Try again.
    The formula doesn't care. Are we talking about the SOR formula or just what you guys think matters?

    Like I said, who the fuck cares. Win out or STFU. It's that simple and most of you know this or you wouldn't be trying to figure out how to get into the playoff if UW loses the CCG. Relax, UW isn't going to lose to Oregon.
    So you're not on a UW site trying to convince everyone OU has a better resume?
    Yes. He is. And he is trying WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too hard and using too little logical thought in the process.

    He probably still thinks Utah's win against Florida is top tier stuff. Someone needs to tell him that rankings change throughout the season. And, therefore, so does the quality of those wins.

    By his (lack of) logic 0regon's win over Utah triumphs UW's win over 0regon. That appears to be his convoluted logic and since it is 0regon's best win (he doesn't credit Arizona here) I see why he is doing it. But, that doesn't make it close to being logical.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,251 Founders Club
    flatus said:

    RoadTrip said:

    flatus said:

    RoadTrip said:

    flatus said:

    dnc said:

    And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.

    It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.

    I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.

    Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
    BS, your win over Utah was without Rising. Try again.
    The formula doesn't care. Are we talking about the SOR formula or just what you guys think matters?

    Like I said, who the fuck cares. Win out or STFU. It's that simple and most of you know this or you wouldn't be trying to figure out how to get into the playoff if UW loses the CCG. Relax, UW isn't going to lose to Oregon.
    So you're not on a UW site trying to convince everyone OU has a better resume?
    NO.

    But SOR will be virtually identical IF both teams win out AND Oregon wins the CCG.

    FURTHER: IT WON'T MATTER. Win out or stay home.





    BS
  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,779 Swaye's Wigwam
    EwaDawg said:

    RoadTrip said:

    flatus said:

    RoadTrip said:

    flatus said:

    dnc said:

    And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.

    It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.

    I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.

    Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
    BS, your win over Utah was without Rising. Try again.
    The formula doesn't care. Are we talking about the SOR formula or just what you guys think matters?

    Like I said, who the fuck cares. Win out or STFU. It's that simple and most of you know this or you wouldn't be trying to figure out how to get into the playoff if UW loses the CCG. Relax, UW isn't going to lose to Oregon.
    So you're not on a UW site trying to convince everyone OU has a better resume?
    Yes. He is. And he is trying WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too hard and using too little logical thought in the process.

    He probably still thinks Utah's win against Florida is top tier stuff. Someone needs to tell him that rankings change throughout the season. And, therefore, so does the quality of those wins.

    By his (lack of) logic 0regon's win over Utah triumphs UW's win over 0regon. That appears to be his convoluted logic and since it is 0regon's best win (he doesn't credit Arizona here) I see why he is doing it. But, that doesn't make it close to being logical.
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