I got an advance reading of the script
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Could happen. And Oregon could still play UW in CCG after losing to SC. That would suck for all parties.NEsnake12 said:You missed the part of the script where USC actually puts it together against Oregon because Grinch got fired, and the Quooks cry about it not being fair that UW got to face Grinch
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Resume comps aren't just coming down to "who has the best road win".flatus said:
It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.dnc said:And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.
I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.
Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
And Utah still has to play at Washington and at Arizona, it's very possible that road win loses plenty of luster before the Utes plunger the Primes. -
All true.dnc said:
Resume comps aren't just coming down to "who has the best road win".flatus said:
It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.dnc said:And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.
I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.
Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
And Utah still has to play at Washington and at Arizona, it's very possible that road win loses plenty of luster before the Utes plunger the Primes.
But I never said the best road win was the only factor. I'm saying UW won't have one as strong as of now and road wins are weighed more heavily in the SOR calculation. If Utah loses only to UW, it will likely still remain the highest ranked P12 team at season's end. I said LIKELY.
Regardless, the SOR will be very similar if both teams win out and UO beats UW in CCG.
Fair enough?
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This. Utah squeaked by against a mid tier USC. UTAH may be mid tier P12, as well. It will show against the team that beat Oregon and possibly the most dangerous team in the P12 (Zona) since both are away from the friendly confines of their home stadium.dnc said:
Resume comps aren't just coming down to "who has the best road win".flatus said:
It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.dnc said:And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.
I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.
Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
And Utah still has to play at Washington and at Arizona, it's very possible that road win loses plenty of luster before the Utes plunger the Primes.
I think to graduate from 0regon you need to fail like five basic logic classes. I just didn't realize that @flatus tutored those U0 students.
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BS, your win over Utah was without Rising. Try again.flatus said:
It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.dnc said:And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.
I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.
Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though. -
So we're resorting to personal attacks?EwaDawg said:
This. Utah squeaked by against a mid tier USC. UTAH may be mid tier P12, as well. It will show against the team that beat Oregon and possibly the most dangerous team in the P12 (Zona) since both are away from the friendly confines of their home stadium.dnc said:
Resume comps aren't just coming down to "who has the best road win".flatus said:
It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.dnc said:And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.
I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.
Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
And Utah still has to play at Washington and at Arizona, it's very possible that road win loses plenty of luster before the Utes plunger the Primes.
I think to graduate from 0regon you need to fail like five basic logic classes. I just didn't realize that @flatus tutored those U0 students.
I can't fucking imagine hanging my hat on a win over WAC level Utah in Utah.
SOR is formula. It matters who you beat and where. Utah is currently the best road win. Fact. Will it be at the end of the year? If Utah only loses to UW, yes.
The other games are basically a wash except for Arizona. If it continues to win, that boosts UW. I've said all of these things. Try to keep up.
But who the fuck cares? Win out or STFU. Winner of the CCG goes to the playoff, if any team does. Fact. You shouldn't have anything to worry about, UW is superior and Oregon will shit the bed. Script. -
For the record, @dnc is right. UW would be left out in that scenario. And that would be complete bullshit.
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Well this script would be the one which had the Raiders beating down the Giants yesterday. It would also imply the Ducks' starting QB leaves with a season ending injury early.NEsnake12 said:You missed the part of the script where USC actually puts it together against Oregon because Grinch got fired, and the Quooks cry about it not being fair that UW got to face Grinch
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The formula doesn't care. Are we talking about the SOR formula or just what you guys think matters?RoadTrip said:
BS, your win over Utah was without Rising. Try again.flatus said:
It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.dnc said:And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.
I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.
Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
Like I said, who the fuck cares. Win out or STFU. It's that simple and most of you know this or you wouldn't be trying to figure out how to get into the playoff if UW loses the CCG. Relax, UW isn't going to lose to Oregon. -
In what scenario? Losing to Oregon in the CCG? Of course they would, that's what I'm saying, too. Others are using SOR to back onto the playoff. Right or wrong, that won't matter.ntxduck said:For the record, @dnc is right. UW would be left out in that scenario. And that would be complete bullshit.
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So you're not on a UW site trying to convince everyone OU has a better resume?flatus said:
The formula doesn't care. Are we talking about the SOR formula or just what you guys think matters?RoadTrip said:
BS, your win over Utah was without Rising. Try again.flatus said:
It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.dnc said:And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.
I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.
Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
Like I said, who the fuck cares. Win out or STFU. It's that simple and most of you know this or you wouldn't be trying to figure out how to get into the playoff if UW loses the CCG. Relax, UW isn't going to lose to Oregon. -
I agree, though I believe UW's will be superior in that case. Obviously a million permutations left that could tilt things in either team's direction.flatus said:
All true.dnc said:
Resume comps aren't just coming down to "who has the best road win".flatus said:
It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.dnc said:And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.
I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.
Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
And Utah still has to play at Washington and at Arizona, it's very possible that road win loses plenty of luster before the Utes plunger the Primes.
But I never said the best road win was the only factor. I'm saying UW won't have one as strong as of now and road wins are weighed more heavily in the SOR calculation. If Utah loses only to UW, it will likely still remain the highest ranked P12 team at season's end. I said LIKELY.
Regardless, the SOR will be very similar if both teams win out and UO beats UW in CCG.
Fair enough?
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This. Dumbest is always best IMO when it comes to this league. The point is for it to entertain, right?whlinder said:
That one becomes a mess cause I think it goes to the record vs the next highest standing P12 team, and predicting who is 6-3 is an exercise in futility.ntxduck said:
Yes—assuming the greased up wildcats also lost another somewhere (too lazy rn to look up tiebreakers between a 7-2 az and Oregon in this scenario)PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Wouldnt Oregon still play us in the title game if that happens? Beav would have 3 lossesDoogieMcDoogerson said:But Oregon is going to lose to Oregon State. Book it. Jonathan Smith will push all the right buttons. Guy's a genius.
The one known is the only schedule difference between Arizona and Oregon is Arizona played UCLA and Oregon plays Cal, so if it gets to the one of the very last tiebreakers Arizona probably wins on UCLA > Cal.
See the Pac-12 tiebreaker thread. Still rooting for the absolute dumbest outcome to occur.
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I became a UW fan in Year 1 of the Willingham era, so my default setting is about as pessimistic and catastrophic as possible. This year's team just looks different than any UW team I've personally watched. Every time they've been in a position that should absolutely result in a loss, they're unfazed and come out with a win. I'm done betting against that until I see something different.bananasnblondes said:You all are way more optimistic about beating Oregon. I give us like a 25% chance if it's us or them for the CFP.
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NO.RoadTrip said:
So you're not on a UW site trying to convince everyone OU has a better resume?flatus said:
The formula doesn't care. Are we talking about the SOR formula or just what you guys think matters?RoadTrip said:
BS, your win over Utah was without Rising. Try again.flatus said:
It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.dnc said:And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.
I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.
Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
Like I said, who the fuck cares. Win out or STFU. It's that simple and most of you know this or you wouldn't be trying to figure out how to get into the playoff if UW loses the CCG. Relax, UW isn't going to lose to Oregon.
But SOR will be virtually identical IF both teams win out AND Oregon wins the CCG.
FURTHER: IT WON'T MATTER. Win out or stay home.
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It's so much easier with divisions. No wonder they changed it.
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Oregon would have an outside shot at making the playoff with divisions.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:It's so much easier with divisions. No wonder they changed it.
1) UW loses CCG to South, UO wins out
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2) UW and UO win out, FSU and Michigan lose, Texas looks pedestrian in B12 CCG. Oregon would need to plunger last 3 teams. Both UW and UO are in. This how @WoolleyDoog was saying the SEC and B1G frequently get 2 teams. It would be a looooong shot thanks to being in the P12 but I think there would be as good an argument as any previous scecario when conferences have gotten 2 teams in.
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Yes. He is. And he is trying WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too hard and using too little logical thought in the process.RoadTrip said:
So you're not on a UW site trying to convince everyone OU has a better resume?flatus said:
The formula doesn't care. Are we talking about the SOR formula or just what you guys think matters?RoadTrip said:
BS, your win over Utah was without Rising. Try again.flatus said:
It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.dnc said:And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.
I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.
Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
Like I said, who the fuck cares. Win out or STFU. It's that simple and most of you know this or you wouldn't be trying to figure out how to get into the playoff if UW loses the CCG. Relax, UW isn't going to lose to Oregon.
He probably still thinks Utah's win against Florida is top tier stuff. Someone needs to tell him that rankings change throughout the season. And, therefore, so does the quality of those wins.
By his (lack of) logic 0regon's win over Utah triumphs UW's win over 0regon. That appears to be his convoluted logic and since it is 0regon's best win (he doesn't credit Arizona here) I see why he is doing it. But, that doesn't make it close to being logical. -
BSflatus said:
NO.RoadTrip said:
So you're not on a UW site trying to convince everyone OU has a better resume?flatus said:
The formula doesn't care. Are we talking about the SOR formula or just what you guys think matters?RoadTrip said:
BS, your win over Utah was without Rising. Try again.flatus said:
It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.dnc said:And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.
I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.
Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
Like I said, who the fuck cares. Win out or STFU. It's that simple and most of you know this or you wouldn't be trying to figure out how to get into the playoff if UW loses the CCG. Relax, UW isn't going to lose to Oregon.
But SOR will be virtually identical IF both teams win out AND Oregon wins the CCG.
FURTHER: IT WON'T MATTER. Win out or stay home. -
SarkSure.gifEwaDawg said:
Yes. He is. And he is trying WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too hard and using too little logical thought in the process.RoadTrip said:
So you're not on a UW site trying to convince everyone OU has a better resume?flatus said:
The formula doesn't care. Are we talking about the SOR formula or just what you guys think matters?RoadTrip said:
BS, your win over Utah was without Rising. Try again.flatus said:
It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.dnc said:And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.
I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.
Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
Like I said, who the fuck cares. Win out or STFU. It's that simple and most of you know this or you wouldn't be trying to figure out how to get into the playoff if UW loses the CCG. Relax, UW isn't going to lose to Oregon.
He probably still thinks Utah's win against Florida is top tier stuff. Someone needs to tell him that rankings change throughout the season. And, therefore, so does the quality of those wins.
By his (lack of) logic 0regon's win over Utah triumphs UW's win over 0regon. That appears to be his convoluted logic and since it is 0regon's best win (he doesn't credit Arizona here) I see why he is doing it. But, that doesn't make it close to being logical. -
See below (well, at your own risk)flatus said:
SarkSure.gifEwaDawg said:
Yes. He is. And he is trying WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too hard and using too little logical thought in the process.RoadTrip said:
So you're not on a UW site trying to convince everyone OU has a better resume?flatus said:
The formula doesn't care. Are we talking about the SOR formula or just what you guys think matters?RoadTrip said:
BS, your win over Utah was without Rising. Try again.flatus said:
It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.dnc said:And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.
I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.
Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
Like I said, who the fuck cares. Win out or STFU. It's that simple and most of you know this or you wouldn't be trying to figure out how to get into the playoff if UW loses the CCG. Relax, UW isn't going to lose to Oregon.
He probably still thinks Utah's win against Florida is top tier stuff. Someone needs to tell him that rankings change throughout the season. And, therefore, so does the quality of those wins.
By his (lack of) logic 0regon's win over Utah triumphs UW's win over 0regon. That appears to be his convoluted logic and since it is 0regon's best win (he doesn't credit Arizona here) I see why he is doing it. But, that doesn't make it close to being logical.
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Hey
@flatus@flatass.
Who is your next best win after Utah?
Is it Cal?
Is it WSU?
Is it Stanford?
Is it Colorado?
Will it be ASU?
All of those teams are in last place in the P12 or in next to last place. I see why you are trying to inflate Utah, here. You have virtually no other halfway decent wins.
Using ACTUAL LOGIC try to pump up 0regon's record so far.
Your best win may be your fucking moral victory over UW since you only lost by a FG.
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Their next best win is 4-5 Texas Tech.EwaDawg said:Hey
@flatus@flatass.
Who is your next best win after Utah?
Is it Cal?
Is it WSU?
Is it Stanford?
Is it Colorado?
Will it be ASU?
All of those teams are in last place in the P12 or in next to last place. I see why you are trying to inflate Utah, here. You have virtually no other halfway decent wins.
Using ACTUAL LOGIC try to pump up 0regon's record so far.
Your best win may be your fucking moral victory over UW since you only lost by a FG. -
You can't expect me to read all of these @flatus posts. But judging by the tenor of the conversation I'm gathering that he's being a retard and should light himself on fire before jumping into the Willamette.
Case closed. Next thread. -
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4-8 still in play.dnc said:
Their next best win is 4-5 Texas Tech.EwaDawg said:Hey
@flatus@flatass.
Who is your next best win after Utah?
Is it Cal?
Is it WSU?
Is it Stanford?
Is it Colorado?
Will it be ASU?
All of those teams are in last place in the P12 or in next to last place. I see why you are trying to inflate Utah, here. You have virtually no other halfway decent wins.
Using ACTUAL LOGIC try to pump up 0regon's record so far.
Your best win may be your fucking moral victory over UW since you only lost by a FG. -
I responded to the other thread you started on the 'fuge.EwaDawg said:Hey
@flatus@flatass.
Who is your next best win after Utah?
Is it Cal?
Is it WSU?
Is it Stanford?
Is it Colorado?
Will it be ASU?
All of those teams are in last place in the P12 or in next to last place. I see why you are trying to inflate Utah, here. You have virtually no other halfway decent wins.
Using ACTUAL LOGIC try to pump up 0regon's record so far.
Your best win may be your fucking moral victory over UW since you only lost by a FG.
Deep breaths. It's going to be alright. I promise.
Cyberhug? -
And Oregon will self implode due yo the pressure.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This team plays up for big games. Not going to get much bigger than playing the Oregon hype machine for a semi-playoff round. They are built for this.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Poasters on here buying into the media narrative and getting scared of Orygun.YellowSnow said:
@PostGameOrangeSlices has been blowing up the script week after week after week.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Disagree. The traditional anti-UW script is null and void.
THIS is the script
UW beats Oregon three times in two years - at home, neutral, and on the road.
Duck fans continue to make excuses while watching UW make the playoff
Guy's the Big Dick poster of the 2023 campaign.
I see a UW team that was in control of that game - up 11 with the ball late.
This time, I see DeBoer and Grubb unleashing the Johnson late, not just the Penix.
3 wins over Oregon in 2 years. Embrace the opportunity doogs. It'll be epic.
Drive that dagger in Deboner.
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Don't underestimate babushka with the power of a loose beaver rolling into autzen when the pressure is on.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
And Oregon will self implode due yo the pressure.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This team plays up for big games. Not going to get much bigger than playing the Oregon hype machine for a semi-playoff round. They are built for this.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Poasters on here buying into the media narrative and getting scared of Orygun.YellowSnow said:
@PostGameOrangeSlices has been blowing up the script week after week after week.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Disagree. The traditional anti-UW script is null and void.
THIS is the script
UW beats Oregon three times in two years - at home, neutral, and on the road.
Duck fans continue to make excuses while watching UW make the playoff
Guy's the Big Dick poster of the 2023 campaign.
I see a UW team that was in control of that game - up 11 with the ball late.
This time, I see DeBoer and Grubb unleashing the Johnson late, not just the Penix.
3 wins over Oregon in 2 years. Embrace the opportunity doogs. It'll be epic.
Drive that dagger in Deboner. -
Apparently you do. We’re 80+ posts into this thread and you have half of those posts despite starting on the 2nd page.flatus said:
The formula doesn't care. Are we talking about the SOR formula or just what you guys think matters?RoadTrip said:
BS, your win over Utah was without Rising. Try again.flatus said:
It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.dnc said:And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.
I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.
Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
Like I said, who the fuck cares. Win out or STFU. It's that simple and most of you know this or you wouldn't be trying to figure out how to get into the playoff if UW loses the CCG. Relax, UW isn't going to lose to Oregon.
Go take a walk and get some perspective.
