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  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    its all true except that teams are normally just a couple of injuries away from having their season unravel, and the Dawgs have been thru that already and are getting healthier down the stretch and finish the pac12 undefeated winning the ccg rather easily.

    I've been wondering about this. I haven't paid too much attention to our? injury situation. Who has been out that is now getting back onto the field? Mele is out for the year and J Mac is still out.
  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,322 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    flatus said:

    dnc said:

    UW beats Utah, Beav (scary close) and WSU. Thus UW completes only the second 9-0 conference season ever in Pac12 history. DoogItUp.gif

    Butt UW goes on to lose the Conference Title game rematch to Oregon thus ensuring UW is screwed by Kliavkoff's division elimination in both 2022 and 2023, which were of course the only years in which the divisions didn't exist (though inexplicably division scheduling still did)

    Oregon makes the playoff, One loss UW who finished the regular season 12-0 goes NY6.

    Fuck the Pac12 forever.



    I seem to recall people being happy that the divisions were eliminated because the South was shit for so long and nobody wanted 8 - 4 UCLA teams in the CCG.
    This^

    All conferences have either killed or will kill divisions. The P12 was actually proactive in this regard, one of the few decisions that weren't phucktarded.

    The whining going on here about no divisions is doogish and smacks of Caleb Williams-level crying to mommy.

    If UW is the best team, then beat the next best team on a neutral field or STFU. It might not even be Oregon....

    The problem as I have said is that they got rid of divisions but kept division schedules. This is absolutely fucktarded and completely indefensible.
    That's fair. Some of that will happen in the B1G bc of historic rivalries. For example, see UW-boodger's schedule next year. All the corn schools and no UM nor OSU. Ridiculously easy schedule.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    If we can't beat OU in the Conference Championship Game, then we aren't a Top 4 squad.

    It will all sort itself out.

    What if OU is top 2? In the end, UW's offense is amazing but cannot carry the D against these top 4 teams so I think you're right.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    flatus said:

    dnc said:

    flatus said:

    dnc said:

    UW beats Utah, Beav (scary close) and WSU. Thus UW completes only the second 9-0 conference season ever in Pac12 history. DoogItUp.gif

    Butt UW goes on to lose the Conference Title game rematch to Oregon thus ensuring UW is screwed by Kliavkoff's division elimination in both 2022 and 2023, which were of course the only years in which the divisions didn't exist (though inexplicably division scheduling still did)

    Oregon makes the playoff, One loss UW who finished the regular season 12-0 goes NY6.

    Fuck the Pac12 forever.



    I seem to recall people being happy that the divisions were eliminated because the South was shit for so long and nobody wanted 8 - 4 UCLA teams in the CCG.
    This^

    All conferences have either killed or will kill divisions. The P12 was actually proactive in this regard, one of the few decisions that weren't phucktarded.

    The whining going on here about no divisions is doogish and smacks of Caleb Williams-level crying to mommy.

    If UW is the best team, then beat the next best team on a neutral field or STFU. It might not even be Oregon....

    The problem as I have said is that they got rid of divisions but kept division schedules. This is absolutely fucktarded and completely indefensible.
    That's fair. Some of that will happen in the B1G bc of historic rivalries. For example, see UW-boodger's schedule next year. All the corn schools and no UM nor OSU. Ridiculously easy schedule.
    Corn schools lol
  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,322 Swaye's Wigwam

    If UW wins out and losses to 12-1 Oregon in the championship, UW will have the better SOR

    UW's other wins are 6-3 Arizona, MSU, Boise, and Tulsa

    Oregon's other wins are 4-5 CU, TTech, Hawaii, and Portland State

    CFP Committee is favoring resume over eye test

    I think they'll be close to identical. Strength of record and SOS are different. Oregon will have wins over UW on neutral field on last game of season, USC, OSU, and @Utah (which is looking like the best road win in the league now) and a 3pt loss on the road to UW in a game everyone saw.

    The UA game ends up being an unexpected plus to UW's resume but in the end I think it's a wash given @USC may end up with 5 or 6 losses.

    Oregon will have to look like total shit in the next 3 games and barely beat UW in the CCG for it to be close.

    The CCG is the deciding factor if UW and UO end up with identical records. UW could still make it with a loss before the CCG and a win over UO, but they'll have to look damn good down the stretch.
  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,322 Swaye's Wigwam

    flatus said:

    dnc said:

    UW beats Utah, Beav (scary close) and WSU. Thus UW completes only the second 9-0 conference season ever in Pac12 history. DoogItUp.gif

    Butt UW goes on to lose the Conference Title game rematch to Oregon thus ensuring UW is screwed by Kliavkoff's division elimination in both 2022 and 2023, which were of course the only years in which the divisions didn't exist (though inexplicably division scheduling still did)

    Oregon makes the playoff, One loss UW who finished the regular season 12-0 goes NY6.

    Fuck the Pac12 forever.



    I seem to recall people being happy that the divisions were eliminated because the South was shit for so long and nobody wanted 8 - 4 UCLA teams in the CCG.
    This^

    All conferences have either killed or will kill divisions. The P12 was actually proactive in this regard, one of the few decisions that weren't phucktarded.

    The whining going on here about no divisions is doogish and smacks of Caleb Williams-level crying to mommy.

    If UW is the best team, then beat the next best team on a neutral field or STFU. It might not even be Oregon....

    I get the wanting to not have crappy teams from one division in but the problem still has been that the conference plays divisional schedules so it's dumb to have a championship feeder format that isn't based on division. It's why last year you had USC in who almost assuredly got in because they didn't have play Oregon and UW and you have Utah in who only played Oregon, lost in Eugene a week after UW won in Eugene.

    What's gonna happen this year is the conference is gonna have UW come in undefeated and Oregon with one loss and it's set up to where UW and Oregon get into the CFP had the championship game been North vs South (and UW wins) but instead the Pac-12 makes them play each other again where the loser is out instead of just setting up a major favorite game for your conference's top team. The SEC has feasted on this in the CFP era. The Big 10 benefitted last year as Michigan and Ohio State having to play each other again would have raised the chances for keeping one out. It's also college football and different and playing the same team twice is fucking stupid.
    Agree, having the schedules still set up as divisions is dumb. But with 12 teams and 9 league games each school only misses 2 teams. With the larger conferences there will be even greater year-to-year disparities even without division schedules, e.g., see UW-BOODGER next year.

    As @YellowSnow aptly stated, if UW is the best team it shouldn't matter. Just win the game and quit whining (not you specifically, but those who are obviously unhappy about having to face Oregon again, possibly)
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    flatus said:

    If UW wins out and losses to 12-1 Oregon in the championship, UW will have the better SOR

    UW's other wins are 6-3 Arizona, MSU, Boise, and Tulsa

    Oregon's other wins are 4-5 CU, TTech, Hawaii, and Portland State

    CFP Committee is favoring resume over eye test

    I think they'll be close to identical. Strength of record and SOS are different. Oregon will have wins over UW on neutral field on last game of season, USC, OSU, and @Utah (which is looking like the best road win in the league now) and a 3pt loss on the road to UW in a game everyone saw.

    The UA game ends up being an unexpected plus to UW's resume but in the end I think it's a wash given @USC may end up with 5 or 6 losses.

    Oregon will have to look like total shit in the next 3 games and barely beat UW in the CCG for it to be close.

    The CCG is the deciding factor if UW and UO end up with identical records. UW could still make it with a loss before the CCG and a win over UO, but they'll have to look damn good down the stretch.
    UW's in with 1 loss and a conference championship. Only way a 1 loss UW is left out is if that 1 loss is to 1 loss Oregon in the conference championship game.
  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,506
    But Oregon is going to lose to Oregon State. Book it. Jonathan Smith will push all the right buttons. Guy's a genius.
  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,322 Swaye's Wigwam

    Washington by 20 over Oregon

    Screen shot it

    Agree.

    Then why all the angst about a rematch?

    As @YellowSnow said and I reiterated, just win the damn game or STFU. You want me to fuck off for saying that, so apparently you aren't as confident in the outcome as I am.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,685 Founders Club
    flatus said:

    Washington by 20 over Oregon

    Screen shot it

    Agree.

    Then why all the angst about a rematch?

    As @YellowSnow said and I reiterated, just win the damn game or STFU. You want me to fuck off for saying that, so apparently you aren't as confident in the outcome as I am.

    What?
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,672 Founders Club
    Ducks beat OSU but Nix sprains his vag again and sits CCG

    We? beat Oregon in close CCG and Oregon goes full media propoganda and says a healthy Nix would have been the difference and full court push to displace us in playoff
  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,322 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.

    It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.

    I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.

    Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,322 Swaye's Wigwam

    But Oregon is going to lose to Oregon State. Book it. Jonathan Smith will push all the right buttons. Guy's a genius.

    Quote possible.

    Quit twisting, I'm not saying Oregon is going to win out. In fact, I've said.the opposite. The script is:

    1) QB injury derails season and/or

    2) Lannbo shits down his leg

    As I said, Lanning is Lannbo until he isn't.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,102

    But Oregon is going to lose to Oregon State. Book it. Jonathan Smith will push all the right buttons. Guy's a genius.

    So still probably a UW-Oregon ccg
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,141 Standard Supporter

    Disagree. The traditional anti-UW script is null and void.

    THIS is the script

    UW beats Oregon three times in two years - at home, neutral, and on the road.

    Duck fans continue to make excuses while watching UW make the playoff

    Start printing the t-shirts.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145

    But Oregon is going to lose to Oregon State. Book it. Jonathan Smith will push all the right buttons. Guy's a genius.

    Wouldnt Oregon still play us in the title game if that happens? Beav would have 3 losses
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,657 Founders Club
    edited November 2023
    flatus said:

    dnc said:

    And the impact of the USC game potentially decreasing doesn’t hurt UW’s resume significantly more than it hurts Oregon’s. Arizona improving only helps one of our resumes. Weird comp.

    It's your "tough" road game. Oregon will have a resounding win @Utah which is and probably will remain the best road win in the conference going forward.

    I'm saying USC won't be useful to anyone.

    Whether Arizona ends up ranked is dubious. It's a much better win than anyone thought going in, though.
    Before the Pac 12 ruined the conference championship rules with spider web fucking decision trees on 3 way ties and all this other stupid bullshit, the system was clean and fair.

    Since you play the same teams every year you get 1 shot at them. Only a rematch if it was cross division where the outcome of the first game didn't mean as much.

    You quooks only think that this new system is acceptable because it's bailing you out. Period.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,685 Founders Club
    Oregon is relieved that UW got robbed last year out of a title
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,102

    But Oregon is going to lose to Oregon State. Book it. Jonathan Smith will push all the right buttons. Guy's a genius.

    Wouldnt Oregon still play us in the title game if that happens? Beav would have 3 losses
    Yes—assuming the greased up wildcats also lost another somewhere (too lazy rn to look up tiebreakers between a 7-2 az and Oregon in this scenario)