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If they just kind of hold serve otherwise and hang within a few games they can write their own ticket. 7 games left with Texas and 3 more with Houston.dirtysouwfdawg said:M’s win. Making a run for TexASS
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Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.
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I was just watching a few highlight clips and kind of chuckled about the debates over his spot in the batting order. People have been fooled by the HR Derby and the occasional 115mph bomb. I've even been fooled by his size and the assumption that he's too big to be a center fielder long term.CuntWaffle said:Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.
Julio is a leadoff hitter and table setter all the way. Just watching him run and ignoring how he towers over most other players one could easily be fooled into thinking he's a 5'10", pure base running and defensive specialist. He's a lot better at slapping the ball around and occasionally driving a mistake than he is at swinging for the big fly. I think his peak will still be 30 homers or so but with a .300+ batting average, a ton of doubles, and 30-40 steals. The only thing he doesn't have in his game as a leadoff guy is a high walk rate and real high on base %, but I see those both improving. -
He hits the ball much harder than a slap hitter. That's why people forecast all the power. It's there he just has to lift the ball a little more to get to it.chuck said:
I was just watching a few highlight clips and kind of chuckled about the debates over his spot in the batting order. People have been fooled by the HR Derby and the occasional 115mph bomb. I've even been fooled by his size and the assumption that he's too big to be a center fielder long term.CuntWaffle said:Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.
Julio is a leadoff hitter and table setter all the way. Just watching him run and ignoring how he towers over most other players one could easily be fooled into thinking he's a 5'10", pure base running and defensive specialist. He's a lot better at slapping the ball around and occasionally driving a mistake than he is at swinging for the big fly. I think his peak will still be 30 homers or so but with a .300+ batting average, a ton of doubles, and 30-40 steals. The only thing he doesn't have in his game as a leadoff guy is a high walk rate and real high on base %, but I see those both improving.
He'll hit 40 in a season at least once by the time he's 25.
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But yes he brings baserunning and defense to go along with it. Complete package.
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My first fantasy team was in 1990 (The Johnson City Gigolos). Rickey Henderson hit .325 with 28 dingers, 61 RBIs and 65 stolen bases, if memory serves me correct. Julio is within shouting distance of that type of 4 category production.chuck said:
I was just watching a few highlight clips and kind of chuckled about the debates over his spot in the batting order. People have been fooled by the HR Derby and the occasional 115mph bomb. I've even been fooled by his size and the assumption that he's too big to be a center fielder long term.CuntWaffle said:Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.
Julio is a leadoff hitter and table setter all the way. Just watching him run and ignoring how he towers over most other players one could easily be fooled into thinking he's a 5'10", pure base running and defensive specialist. He's a lot better at slapping the ball around and occasionally driving a mistake than he is at swinging for the big fly. I think his peak will still be 30 homers or so but with a .300+ batting average, a ton of doubles, and 30-40 steals. The only thing he doesn't have in his game as a leadoff guy is a high walk rate and real high on base %, but I see those both improving. -
He's getting a ton of slap hits. That's what drove the 17 hit streak. Three infield singles and multiple jam shots into right field. Yes, he can crush the ball but he's best at hitting for average over power.dnc said:
He hits the ball much harder than a slap hitter. That's why people forecast all the power. It's there he just has to lift the ball a little more to get to it.chuck said:
I was just watching a few highlight clips and kind of chuckled about the debates over his spot in the batting order. People have been fooled by the HR Derby and the occasional 115mph bomb. I've even been fooled by his size and the assumption that he's too big to be a center fielder long term.CuntWaffle said:Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.
Julio is a leadoff hitter and table setter all the way. Just watching him run and ignoring how he towers over most other players one could easily be fooled into thinking he's a 5'10", pure base running and defensive specialist. He's a lot better at slapping the ball around and occasionally driving a mistake than he is at swinging for the big fly. I think his peak will still be 30 homers or so but with a .300+ batting average, a ton of doubles, and 30-40 steals. The only thing he doesn't have in his game as a leadoff guy is a high walk rate and real high on base %, but I see those both improving.
He'll hit 40 in a season at least once by the time he's 25.
I don't think we'll ever see 40 homers.
It seems your disagreement is mostly over my choice of labels..."slap hitter" is not what I would label him. I'm just saying that's part of his game and he is at his best when he's using it to get on base and set the table, with the occasional display of power. -
Henderson is who I was thinking of. Julio should have a few more homers as he develops and hopefully will gain some of Henderson's patience and on base skills. I see him as more likely to compete for a batting title than HR title though.DerekJohnson said:
My first fantasy team was in 1990 (The Johnson City Gigolos). Rickey Henderson hit .325 with 28 dingers, 61 RBIs and 65 stolen bases, if memory serves me correct. Julio is within shouting distance of that type of 4 category production.chuck said:
I was just watching a few highlight clips and kind of chuckled about the debates over his spot in the batting order. People have been fooled by the HR Derby and the occasional 115mph bomb. I've even been fooled by his size and the assumption that he's too big to be a center fielder long term.CuntWaffle said:Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.
Julio is a leadoff hitter and table setter all the way. Just watching him run and ignoring how he towers over most other players one could easily be fooled into thinking he's a 5'10", pure base running and defensive specialist. He's a lot better at slapping the ball around and occasionally driving a mistake than he is at swinging for the big fly. I think his peak will still be 30 homers or so but with a .300+ batting average, a ton of doubles, and 30-40 steals. The only thing he doesn't have in his game as a leadoff guy is a high walk rate and real high on base %, but I see those both improving. -
Let's take a look at his exit velocities in the streak (if nothing is noted it's a normal single)chuck said:
He's getting a ton of slap hits. That's what drove the 17 hit streak. Three infield singles and multiple jam shots into right field. Yes, he can crush the ball but he's best at hitting for average over power.dnc said:
He hits the ball much harder than a slap hitter. That's why people forecast all the power. It's there he just has to lift the ball a little more to get to it.chuck said:
I was just watching a few highlight clips and kind of chuckled about the debates over his spot in the batting order. People have been fooled by the HR Derby and the occasional 115mph bomb. I've even been fooled by his size and the assumption that he's too big to be a center fielder long term.CuntWaffle said:Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.
Julio is a leadoff hitter and table setter all the way. Just watching him run and ignoring how he towers over most other players one could easily be fooled into thinking he's a 5'10", pure base running and defensive specialist. He's a lot better at slapping the ball around and occasionally driving a mistake than he is at swinging for the big fly. I think his peak will still be 30 homers or so but with a .300+ batting average, a ton of doubles, and 30-40 steals. The only thing he doesn't have in his game as a leadoff guy is a high walk rate and real high on base %, but I see those both improving.
He'll hit 40 in a season at least once by the time he's 25.
I don't think we'll ever see 40 homers.
Wednesday (4-6)
112.2 (double)
100.7
93.4 (flyout)
95.4
K
89.6 (If hit)
Thursday (5-5)
89.4 (If hit)
95.6
96
110.5 (double)
110.5 (HR)
Friday (4-5)
97.6
100.7 (HR)
76.9
72.1 (reached on error)
83.1 (If hit)
Saturday
106.1
K
109.2
95.3
93.5
K
That's a dude who is mostly hitting the snot out of the ball who has the wheels to still beat it out when he doesn't. Not a guy who is, or should, go up looking to slap the ball.
He'll hit 40. Maybe even 50. Get your screenshots. -
So he crushed 5/17 of his hits in that hot streak and has two more a hair over 100mph. The rest were slaps.dnc said:
Let's take a look at his exit velocities in the streak (if nothing is noted it's a normal single)chuck said:
He's getting a ton of slap hits. That's what drove the 17 hit streak. Three infield singles and multiple jam shots into right field. Yes, he can crush the ball but he's best at hitting for average over power.dnc said:
He hits the ball much harder than a slap hitter. That's why people forecast all the power. It's there he just has to lift the ball a little more to get to it.chuck said:
I was just watching a few highlight clips and kind of chuckled about the debates over his spot in the batting order. People have been fooled by the HR Derby and the occasional 115mph bomb. I've even been fooled by his size and the assumption that he's too big to be a center fielder long term.CuntWaffle said:Julio is a different breed. He’s on of those humans you see in movies that are artificially made in a test tube.
Julio is a leadoff hitter and table setter all the way. Just watching him run and ignoring how he towers over most other players one could easily be fooled into thinking he's a 5'10", pure base running and defensive specialist. He's a lot better at slapping the ball around and occasionally driving a mistake than he is at swinging for the big fly. I think his peak will still be 30 homers or so but with a .300+ batting average, a ton of doubles, and 30-40 steals. The only thing he doesn't have in his game as a leadoff guy is a high walk rate and real high on base %, but I see those both improving.
He'll hit 40 in a season at least once by the time he's 25.
I don't think we'll ever see 40 homers.
Wednesday (4-6)
112.2 (double)
100.7
93.4 (flyout)
95.4
K
89.6 (If hit)
Thursday (5-5)
89.4 (If hit)
95.6
96
110.5 (double)
110.5 (HR)
Friday (4-5)
97.6
100.7 (HR)
76.9
72.1 (reached on error)
83.1 (If hit)
Saturday
106.1
K
109.2
95.3
93.5
K
That's a dude who is mostly hitting the snot out of the ball who has the wheels to still beat it out when he doesn't. Not a guy who is, or should, go up looking to slap the ball.
He'll hit 40. Maybe even 50. Get your screenshots.
