Not sure about this indictment
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I really don't care about this one but "find me 10k votes or else" is a crime IMOHHusky said:
It is the least compelling of the many prosecutions Daddy will face.AOG said:
I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got CaponeHHusky said:
They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.AOG said:I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/
I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link
Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked. -
That's legalAOG said:
I think I agree with this crowd for once... charges look flimsy. They should have nailed him for exaggerating his assets, reducing values for taxes issues, this is weak... will fail IMOjecornel said:All charges are past statute of limitations and the federal government reviewed the case prior. What we are witnessing it utter insanity. The witnesses are stormy and Cohen. Total joke.
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You could be Daddy's lawyer.Goduckies said:
That's legalAOG said:
I think I agree with this crowd for once... charges look flimsy. They should have nailed him for exaggerating his assets, reducing values for taxes issues, this is weak... will fail IMOjecornel said:All charges are past statute of limitations and the federal government reviewed the case prior. What we are witnessing it utter insanity. The witnesses are stormy and Cohen. Total joke.
Well, as long as you don't expect to be paid that is. -
Daddy 187,000, H 0
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That the FEC declined.HHusky said:
At a minimum, campaign finance law violations.Bob_C said:
What was the second crime?HHusky said:§ 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.
A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.
Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.
See, John Edwards. -
He was tried.Goduckies said:
That the FEC declined.HHusky said:
At a minimum, campaign finance law violations.Bob_C said:
What was the second crime?HHusky said:§ 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.
A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.
Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.
See, John Edwards. -
So it's a crime to lie ona loan application? There is a reason they have appraisers.HHusky said:
You could be Daddy's lawyer.Goduckies said:
That's legalAOG said:
I think I agree with this crowd for once... charges look flimsy. They should have nailed him for exaggerating his assets, reducing values for taxes issues, this is weak... will fail IMOjecornel said:All charges are past statute of limitations and the federal government reviewed the case prior. What we are witnessing it utter insanity. The witnesses are stormy and Cohen. Total joke.
Well, as long as you don't expect to be paid that is. -
Trump should switch his parties to be a dem. Then I'd be all for locking him up
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Things TugCons ask.Goduckies said:
So it's a crime to lie ona loan application? There is a reason they have appraisers.HHusky said:
You could be Daddy's lawyer.Goduckies said:
That's legalAOG said:
I think I agree with this crowd for once... charges look flimsy. They should have nailed him for exaggerating his assets, reducing values for taxes issues, this is weak... will fail IMOjecornel said:All charges are past statute of limitations and the federal government reviewed the case prior. What we are witnessing it utter insanity. The witnesses are stormy and Cohen. Total joke.
Well, as long as you don't expect to be paid that is.
Ummmm, hate to break it to you, YES.
You might want to lawyer up. -
CNN won't debase themselves like H
It's like watching funeral coverage -
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A lot of this is pretty boring. I can appreciate how the non-lawyers might have expected LA Law.RaceBannon said:CNN won't debase themselves like H
It's like watching funeral coverage -
Luckily you have google to keep you up to speed on the law side of it.HHusky said:
A lot of this is pretty boring. I can appreciate how the non-lawyers might have expected LA Law.RaceBannon said:CNN won't debase themselves like H
It's like watching funeral coverage -
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What statute is that then?HHusky said:
Things TugCons ask.Goduckies said:
So it's a crime to lie ona loan application? There is a reason they have appraisers.HHusky said:
You could be Daddy's lawyer.Goduckies said:
That's legalAOG said:
I think I agree with this crowd for once... charges look flimsy. They should have nailed him for exaggerating his assets, reducing values for taxes issues, this is weak... will fail IMOjecornel said:All charges are past statute of limitations and the federal government reviewed the case prior. What we are witnessing it utter insanity. The witnesses are stormy and Cohen. Total joke.
Well, as long as you don't expect to be paid that is.
Ummmm, hate to break it to you, YES.
You might want to lawyer up. -
I'll bet you get some cites if you google "bank fraud".Goduckies said:
What statute is that then?HHusky said:
Things TugCons ask.Goduckies said:
So it's a crime to lie ona loan application? There is a reason they have appraisers.HHusky said:
You could be Daddy's lawyer.Goduckies said:
That's legalAOG said:
I think I agree with this crowd for once... charges look flimsy. They should have nailed him for exaggerating his assets, reducing values for taxes issues, this is weak... will fail IMOjecornel said:All charges are past statute of limitations and the federal government reviewed the case prior. What we are witnessing it utter insanity. The witnesses are stormy and Cohen. Total joke.
Well, as long as you don't expect to be paid that is.
Ummmm, hate to break it to you, YES.
You might want to lawyer up.
Please keep us apprised. -
Capone's was a solid indictment within the statute of limitations and the facts of the tax fraud was overwhelming, beyond dispute not just reasonable doubt.AOG said:
I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got CaponeHHusky said:
They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.AOG said:I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/
I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link
Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked. -
When can we expect those to drop?HHusky said:
It is the least compelling of the many prosecutions Daddy will face.AOG said:
I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got CaponeHHusky said:
They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.AOG said:I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/
I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link
Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked. -
Alan Dershowitz was on Man Crush's show this afternoon. I'm not familiar with his HS quarterback career but I do understand he's pretty good at constitutional law. He quickly corrected Man Crush's assertation this is a thin case, stating there is no case and then preceded to tear apart the charges.
One of his main points was the prosecution has to demonstrate the fair application of the law, and they can't. Mic drop line: he has the right to vote against Trump for the third time and he doesn't want some DA telling him who he can vote against. -
You mean like the ones they didn't prosecute Hillary for? She di pat a pretty big fine to the FEC though. But like all the secret docs on her bathroom server she didn't really mean it!HHusky said:
At a minimum, campaign finance law violations.Bob_C said:
What was the second crime?HHusky said:§ 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.
A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.
Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.
See, John Edwards. -
I like my chance on misdemeanors that the statute of limitations expired a few years back on.
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I think it should probably be a misdemeanor with these charges... The taboo is gone from this though and I expect other real charges soon, like all of the other shit he really did do.WestlinnDuck said:
Capone's was a solid indictment within the statute of limitations and the facts of the tax fraud was overwhelming, beyond dispute not just reasonable doubt.AOG said:
I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got CaponeHHusky said:
They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.AOG said:I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/
I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link
Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked. -
Lay 'em out. I'll wait. After 8 years of investigations you think something is coming up now?AOG said:
I think it should probably be a misdemeanor with these charges... The taboo is gone from this though and I expect other real charges soon, like all of the other shit he really did do.WestlinnDuck said:
Capone's was a solid indictment within the statute of limitations and the facts of the tax fraud was overwhelming, beyond dispute not just reasonable doubt.AOG said:
I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got CaponeHHusky said:
They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.AOG said:I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/
I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link
Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked. -
So you have to attest that it's accurate? Uh nope. That's why they have appraisers.HHusky said:
I'll bet you get some cites if you google "bank fraud".Goduckies said:
What statute is that then?HHusky said:
Things TugCons ask.Goduckies said:
So it's a crime to lie ona loan application? There is a reason they have appraisers.HHusky said:
You could be Daddy's lawyer.Goduckies said:
That's legalAOG said:
I think I agree with this crowd for once... charges look flimsy. They should have nailed him for exaggerating his assets, reducing values for taxes issues, this is weak... will fail IMOjecornel said:All charges are past statute of limitations and the federal government reviewed the case prior. What we are witnessing it utter insanity. The witnesses are stormy and Cohen. Total joke.
Well, as long as you don't expect to be paid that is.
Ummmm, hate to break it to you, YES.
You might want to lawyer up.
Please keep us apprised. -
See?HHusky said:
A lot of this is pretty boring. I can appreciate how the non-lawyers might have expected LA Law.RaceBannon said:CNN won't debase themselves like H
It's like watching funeral coverage
They didn't say boring. They said thin
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Martin Selig always borrowed enough to make the bank his partner
Add development to things H is clueless about -
Sledog said:
Lay 'em out. I'll wait. After 8 years of investigations you think something is coming up now?AOG said:
I think it should probably be a misdemeanor with these charges... The taboo is gone from this though and I expect other real charges soon, like all of the other shit he really did do.WestlinnDuck said:
Capone's was a solid indictment within the statute of limitations and the facts of the tax fraud was overwhelming, beyond dispute not just reasonable doubt.AOG said:
I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got CaponeHHusky said:
They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.AOG said:I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/
I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link
Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked.
Trump's modus operandi is to push the law as far as he possibly can, delay, obfuscate, lie,... it's no wonder he's been in courts all his adult life. He's going to keep this going, I don't know how long, maybe for the rest of his life, but the shit may hit the fan too and his luck runs out. -
So no layout?AOG said:Sledog said:
Lay 'em out. I'll wait. After 8 years of investigations you think something is coming up now?AOG said:
I think it should probably be a misdemeanor with these charges... The taboo is gone from this though and I expect other real charges soon, like all of the other shit he really did do.WestlinnDuck said:
Capone's was a solid indictment within the statute of limitations and the facts of the tax fraud was overwhelming, beyond dispute not just reasonable doubt.AOG said:
I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got CaponeHHusky said:
They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.AOG said:I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/
I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link
Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked.
Trump's modus operandi is to push the law as far as he possibly can, delay, obfuscate, lie,... it's no wonder he's been in courts all his adult life. He's going to keep this going, I don't know how long, maybe for the rest of his life, but the shit may hit the fan too and his luck runs out. -
Dazzler all but admits this is a shame indictment.
But just wait until you see the others!
He likes it when the DIMS use their power to take away the right of Americans to vote for the GOP candidate they choose. They loons on the Left are already talking how they can charge RDS with something. -
The Karen McDougal layout?Bob_C said:
So no layout?AOG said:Sledog said:
Lay 'em out. I'll wait. After 8 years of investigations you think something is coming up now?AOG said:
I think it should probably be a misdemeanor with these charges... The taboo is gone from this though and I expect other real charges soon, like all of the other shit he really did do.WestlinnDuck said:
Capone's was a solid indictment within the statute of limitations and the facts of the tax fraud was overwhelming, beyond dispute not just reasonable doubt.AOG said:
I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got CaponeHHusky said:
They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.AOG said:I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/
I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link
Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked.
Trump's modus operandi is to push the law as far as he possibly can, delay, obfuscate, lie,... it's no wonder he's been in courts all his adult life. He's going to keep this going, I don't know how long, maybe for the rest of his life, but the shit may hit the fan too and his luck runs out.
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