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Not sure about this indictment

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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,949

    CNN won't debase themselves like H



    It's like watching funeral coverage
    A lot of this is pretty boring. I can appreciate how the non-lawyers might have expected LA Law.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,633 Swaye's Wigwam
    HHusky said:

    CNN won't debase themselves like H



    It's like watching funeral coverage
    A lot of this is pretty boring. I can appreciate how the non-lawyers might have expected LA Law.
    Luckily you have google to keep you up to speed on the law side of it.
  • BlueduckBlueduck Member Posts: 1,487
    edited April 2023
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,623
    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    AOG said:

    jecornel said:

    All charges are past statute of limitations and the federal government reviewed the case prior. What we are witnessing it utter insanity. The witnesses are stormy and Cohen. Total joke.

    I think I agree with this crowd for once... charges look flimsy. They should have nailed him for exaggerating his assets, reducing values for taxes issues, this is weak... will fail IMO
    That's legal
    You could be Daddy's lawyer.

    Well, as long as you don't expect to be paid that is.
    So it's a crime to lie ona loan application? There is a reason they have appraisers.
    Things TugCons ask.

    Ummmm, hate to break it to you, YES.

    You might want to lawyer up.
    What statute is that then?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,949
    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    AOG said:

    jecornel said:

    All charges are past statute of limitations and the federal government reviewed the case prior. What we are witnessing it utter insanity. The witnesses are stormy and Cohen. Total joke.

    I think I agree with this crowd for once... charges look flimsy. They should have nailed him for exaggerating his assets, reducing values for taxes issues, this is weak... will fail IMO
    That's legal
    You could be Daddy's lawyer.

    Well, as long as you don't expect to be paid that is.
    So it's a crime to lie ona loan application? There is a reason they have appraisers.
    Things TugCons ask.

    Ummmm, hate to break it to you, YES.

    You might want to lawyer up.
    What statute is that then?
    I'll bet you get some cites if you google "bank fraud".

    Please keep us apprised.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,393 Standard Supporter
    AOG said:

    HHusky said:

    AOG said:

    I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/

    I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link

    They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked.
    I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got Capone
    Capone's was a solid indictment within the statute of limitations and the facts of the tax fraud was overwhelming, beyond dispute not just reasonable doubt.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,633 Swaye's Wigwam
    HHusky said:

    AOG said:

    HHusky said:

    AOG said:

    I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/

    I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link

    They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked.
    I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got Capone
    It is the least compelling of the many prosecutions Daddy will face.
    When can we expect those to drop?
  • georgiaduckgeorgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,040 Swaye's Wigwam
    Alan Dershowitz was on Man Crush's show this afternoon. I'm not familiar with his HS quarterback career but I do understand he's pretty good at constitutional law. He quickly corrected Man Crush's assertation this is a thin case, stating there is no case and then preceded to tear apart the charges.

    One of his main points was the prosecution has to demonstrate the fair application of the law, and they can't. Mic drop line: he has the right to vote against Trump for the third time and he doesn't want some DA telling him who he can vote against.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,963 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    § 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.

    A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
    when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
    degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
    another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.


    Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.

    What was the second crime?
    At a minimum, campaign finance law violations.

    See, John Edwards.
    You mean like the ones they didn't prosecute Hillary for? She di pat a pretty big fine to the FEC though. But like all the secret docs on her bathroom server she didn't really mean it!
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,963 Standard Supporter
    I like my chance on misdemeanors that the statute of limitations expired a few years back on.
  • AOGAOG Member Posts: 1,829

    AOG said:

    HHusky said:

    AOG said:

    I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/

    I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link

    They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked.
    I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got Capone
    Capone's was a solid indictment within the statute of limitations and the facts of the tax fraud was overwhelming, beyond dispute not just reasonable doubt.
    I think it should probably be a misdemeanor with these charges... The taboo is gone from this though and I expect other real charges soon, like all of the other shit he really did do.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,963 Standard Supporter
    AOG said:

    AOG said:

    HHusky said:

    AOG said:

    I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/

    I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link

    They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked.
    I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got Capone
    Capone's was a solid indictment within the statute of limitations and the facts of the tax fraud was overwhelming, beyond dispute not just reasonable doubt.
    I think it should probably be a misdemeanor with these charges... The taboo is gone from this though and I expect other real charges soon, like all of the other shit he really did do.
    Lay 'em out. I'll wait. After 8 years of investigations you think something is coming up now?
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,623
    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    AOG said:

    jecornel said:

    All charges are past statute of limitations and the federal government reviewed the case prior. What we are witnessing it utter insanity. The witnesses are stormy and Cohen. Total joke.

    I think I agree with this crowd for once... charges look flimsy. They should have nailed him for exaggerating his assets, reducing values for taxes issues, this is weak... will fail IMO
    That's legal
    You could be Daddy's lawyer.

    Well, as long as you don't expect to be paid that is.
    So it's a crime to lie ona loan application? There is a reason they have appraisers.
    Things TugCons ask.

    Ummmm, hate to break it to you, YES.

    You might want to lawyer up.
    What statute is that then?
    I'll bet you get some cites if you google "bank fraud".

    Please keep us apprised.
    So you have to attest that it's accurate? Uh nope. That's why they have appraisers.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,051 Founders Club
    edited April 2023
    HHusky said:

    CNN won't debase themselves like H



    It's like watching funeral coverage
    A lot of this is pretty boring. I can appreciate how the non-lawyers might have expected LA Law.
    See?

    They didn't say boring. They said thin

    Debase away
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,051 Founders Club
    Martin Selig always borrowed enough to make the bank his partner

    Add development to things H is clueless about
  • AOGAOG Member Posts: 1,829
    Sledog said:

    AOG said:

    AOG said:

    HHusky said:

    AOG said:

    I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/

    I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link

    They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked.
    I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got Capone
    Capone's was a solid indictment within the statute of limitations and the facts of the tax fraud was overwhelming, beyond dispute not just reasonable doubt.
    I think it should probably be a misdemeanor with these charges... The taboo is gone from this though and I expect other real charges soon, like all of the other shit he really did do.
    Lay 'em out. I'll wait. After 8 years of investigations you think something is coming up now?

    Trump's modus operandi is to push the law as far as he possibly can, delay, obfuscate, lie,... it's no wonder he's been in courts all his adult life. He's going to keep this going, I don't know how long, maybe for the rest of his life, but the shit may hit the fan too and his luck runs out.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,633 Swaye's Wigwam
    AOG said:

    Sledog said:

    AOG said:

    AOG said:

    HHusky said:

    AOG said:

    I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/

    I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link

    They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked.
    I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got Capone
    Capone's was a solid indictment within the statute of limitations and the facts of the tax fraud was overwhelming, beyond dispute not just reasonable doubt.
    I think it should probably be a misdemeanor with these charges... The taboo is gone from this though and I expect other real charges soon, like all of the other shit he really did do.
    Lay 'em out. I'll wait. After 8 years of investigations you think something is coming up now?

    Trump's modus operandi is to push the law as far as he possibly can, delay, obfuscate, lie,... it's no wonder he's been in courts all his adult life. He's going to keep this going, I don't know how long, maybe for the rest of his life, but the shit may hit the fan too and his luck runs out.
    So no layout?
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Dazzler all but admits this is a shame indictment.

    But just wait until you see the others!

    He likes it when the DIMS use their power to take away the right of Americans to vote for the GOP candidate they choose. They loons on the Left are already talking how they can charge RDS with something.
  • AOGAOG Member Posts: 1,829
    Bob_C said:

    AOG said:

    Sledog said:

    AOG said:

    AOG said:

    HHusky said:

    AOG said:

    I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/

    I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link

    They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked.
    I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got Capone
    Capone's was a solid indictment within the statute of limitations and the facts of the tax fraud was overwhelming, beyond dispute not just reasonable doubt.
    I think it should probably be a misdemeanor with these charges... The taboo is gone from this though and I expect other real charges soon, like all of the other shit he really did do.
    Lay 'em out. I'll wait. After 8 years of investigations you think something is coming up now?

    Trump's modus operandi is to push the law as far as he possibly can, delay, obfuscate, lie,... it's no wonder he's been in courts all his adult life. He's going to keep this going, I don't know how long, maybe for the rest of his life, but the shit may hit the fan too and his luck runs out.
    So no layout?
    The Karen McDougal layout?
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