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Not sure about this indictment

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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,490

    CNN won't debase themselves like H



    It's like watching funeral coverage
    A lot of this is pretty boring. I can appreciate how the non-lawyers might have expected LA Law.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,414 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    CNN won't debase themselves like H



    It's like watching funeral coverage
    A lot of this is pretty boring. I can appreciate how the non-lawyers might have expected LA Law.
    Luckily you have google to keep you up to speed on the law side of it.
  • Blueduck
    Blueduck Member Posts: 1,699 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2023
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 8,099 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    AOG said:

    jecornel said:

    All charges are past statute of limitations and the federal government reviewed the case prior. What we are witnessing it utter insanity. The witnesses are stormy and Cohen. Total joke.

    I think I agree with this crowd for once... charges look flimsy. They should have nailed him for exaggerating his assets, reducing values for taxes issues, this is weak... will fail IMO
    That's legal
    You could be Daddy's lawyer.

    Well, as long as you don't expect to be paid that is.
    So it's a crime to lie ona loan application? There is a reason they have appraisers.
    Things TugCons ask.

    Ummmm, hate to break it to you, YES.

    You might want to lawyer up.
    What statute is that then?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,490
    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    HHusky said:

    Goduckies said:

    AOG said:

    jecornel said:

    All charges are past statute of limitations and the federal government reviewed the case prior. What we are witnessing it utter insanity. The witnesses are stormy and Cohen. Total joke.

    I think I agree with this crowd for once... charges look flimsy. They should have nailed him for exaggerating his assets, reducing values for taxes issues, this is weak... will fail IMO
    That's legal
    You could be Daddy's lawyer.

    Well, as long as you don't expect to be paid that is.
    So it's a crime to lie ona loan application? There is a reason they have appraisers.
    Things TugCons ask.

    Ummmm, hate to break it to you, YES.

    You might want to lawyer up.
    What statute is that then?
    I'll bet you get some cites if you google "bank fraud".

    Please keep us apprised.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,995 Standard Supporter
    AOG said:

    HHusky said:

    AOG said:

    I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/

    I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link

    They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked.
    I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got Capone
    Capone's was a solid indictment within the statute of limitations and the facts of the tax fraud was overwhelming, beyond dispute not just reasonable doubt.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,414 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    AOG said:

    HHusky said:

    AOG said:

    I found a reference https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2019/pen/part-3/title-k/article-175/175-10/

    I think the weak part of this is the "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." It's a crime to jaywalk... the prosecution will fail to show the link

    They might fail to show the link beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Edwards got away with it. Jury deadlocked.
    I guess they might get him if the defense bungles the case and jury sympathetic. My gut feel is it is weak, too technicality... but, they got Capone
    It is the least compelling of the many prosecutions Daddy will face.
    When can we expect those to drop?
  • georgiaduck
    georgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,760 Swaye's Wigwam
    Alan Dershowitz was on Man Crush's show this afternoon. I'm not familiar with his HS quarterback career but I do understand he's pretty good at constitutional law. He quickly corrected Man Crush's assertation this is a thin case, stating there is no case and then preceded to tear apart the charges.

    One of his main points was the prosecution has to demonstrate the fair application of the law, and they can't. Mic drop line: he has the right to vote against Trump for the third time and he doesn't want some DA telling him who he can vote against.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,737 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    § 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.

    A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
    when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
    degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
    another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.


    Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.

    What was the second crime?
    At a minimum, campaign finance law violations.

    See, John Edwards.
    You mean like the ones they didn't prosecute Hillary for? She di pat a pretty big fine to the FEC though. But like all the secret docs on her bathroom server she didn't really mean it!