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Hardcore Husky Podcast: Could UW Football become the Gonzaga of the new Zombie Pac-12?

DerekJohnson
DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,345 Founders Club
The boys discuss the future of Husky Football while pondering if the Huskies could possibly be strengthened by a weakened Pac-12 as opposed to suffering along with it. Today's show opens with a recreation of a December 2013 exchange between Pup and He_Needs_More_Time (aka "Cockus").

https://anchor.fm/hardcorehusky/episodes/Could-Washington-Football-Become-the-Gonzaga-of-the-new-Zombie-Pac-12-e1vgu22
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,345 Founders Club

    The sexual tensions are literally bursting zippers.


    Ps,
    Thanks for the pod, pods.

    @WoolleyDoog will do anything for ratings
  • The sexual tensions are literally bursting zippers.


    Ps,
    Thanks for the pod, pods.

    @WoolleyDoog will do anything for ratings
    That was hilarious
  • Sandra6
    Sandra6 Member Posts: 151
    Football is not basketball. Non-power conference teams don’t accomplish anything in football like they do in basketball.

    If UW doesn’t get out of the PAC within about the next two months (or by whatever point UW would be forced to sign a Grant of Rights), UW football is permanently doomed. Period. End of story.
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,309 Founders Club
    Sandra6 said:

    Football is not basketball. Non-power conference teams don’t accomplish anything in football like they do in basketball.

    If UW doesn’t get out of the PAC within about the next two months (or by whatever point UW would be forced to sign a Grant of Rights), UW football is permanently doomed. Period. End of story.


  • Sandra6
    Sandra6 Member Posts: 151
    haie said:

    Whatever happens Oregon and Washington just need to prison rape the Pac 12 and remind Jason Scheer and all the Ute fans that still have 🌹's in their Twitter handles that they're headed back to the fucking WAC if they aren't given a high enough % of revenue to remain nationally competitive.

    Most of the other schools such as WSU, Cal, and Beavlet already have their kneepads out, just need to teach the shit "4 corners" losers now.


    We need to bolt for the ACC if a Big 10 invitation isn’t coming. We can’t stay in the PAC under any circumstances whatsoever.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330
    Sandra6 said:

    haie said:

    Whatever happens Oregon and Washington just need to prison rape the Pac 12 and remind Jason Scheer and all the Ute fans that still have 🌹's in their Twitter handles that they're headed back to the fucking WAC if they aren't given a high enough % of revenue to remain nationally competitive.

    Most of the other schools such as WSU, Cal, and Beavlet already have their kneepads out, just need to teach the shit "4 corners" losers now.


    We need to bolt for the ACC if a Big 10 invitation isn’t coming. We can’t stay in the PAC under any circumstances whatsoever.
    The acc is on shaky ground too. That does no good. Combining two lower tier money makers doesn’t make more money unless you drop some dead weight. Same shitty bandaid. NEM until the big 10 and sec decide to expand.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,345 Founders Club
    Sandra6 said:

    haie said:

    Whatever happens Oregon and Washington just need to prison rape the Pac 12 and remind Jason Scheer and all the Ute fans that still have 🌹's in their Twitter handles that they're headed back to the fucking WAC if they aren't given a high enough % of revenue to remain nationally competitive.

    Most of the other schools such as WSU, Cal, and Beavlet already have their kneepads out, just need to teach the shit "4 corners" losers now.


    We need to bolt for the ACC if a Big 10 invitation isn’t coming. We can’t stay in the PAC under any circumstances whatsoever.
    The ACC is not economically feasible.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,815 Founders Club

    Sandra6 said:

    haie said:

    Whatever happens Oregon and Washington just need to prison rape the Pac 12 and remind Jason Scheer and all the Ute fans that still have 🌹's in their Twitter handles that they're headed back to the fucking WAC if they aren't given a high enough % of revenue to remain nationally competitive.

    Most of the other schools such as WSU, Cal, and Beavlet already have their kneepads out, just need to teach the shit "4 corners" losers now.


    We need to bolt for the ACC if a Big 10 invitation isn’t coming. We can’t stay in the PAC under any circumstances whatsoever.
    The acc is on shaky ground too. That does no good. Combining two lower tier money makers doesn’t make more money unless you drop some dead weight. Same shitty bandaid. NEM until the big 10 and sec decide to expand.
    Drop it like it's fucking hot

    This is about survival not consensus or giving a shit about coogs or beavers or anyone else
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330
    edited February 2023

    Sandra6 said:

    haie said:

    Whatever happens Oregon and Washington just need to prison rape the Pac 12 and remind Jason Scheer and all the Ute fans that still have 🌹's in their Twitter handles that they're headed back to the fucking WAC if they aren't given a high enough % of revenue to remain nationally competitive.

    Most of the other schools such as WSU, Cal, and Beavlet already have their kneepads out, just need to teach the shit "4 corners" losers now.


    We need to bolt for the ACC if a Big 10 invitation isn’t coming. We can’t stay in the PAC under any circumstances whatsoever.
    The acc is on shaky ground too. That does no good. Combining two lower tier money makers doesn’t make more money unless you drop some dead weight. Same shitty bandaid. NEM until the big 10 and sec decide to expand.
    Drop it like it's fucking hot

    This is about survival not consensus or giving a shit about coogs or beavers or anyone else
    If the top pac and top acc schools wanted to do this, then sure. If we are helping support wazzu, the beav and wake forests of the world to be 1/2 of the sec or big 10 contracts, no thanks. Better just stay in our or own shitty poor conference than create another one with far away lands.

    I remember a time when the big 12, pac 12 and acc signed a alliance that they were pat hill tough to threaten the big 10 and sec. Those were great times and amounted to zero. I am sure a PR agency was paid for it though.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330

    Sandra6 said:

    haie said:

    Whatever happens Oregon and Washington just need to prison rape the Pac 12 and remind Jason Scheer and all the Ute fans that still have 🌹's in their Twitter handles that they're headed back to the fucking WAC if they aren't given a high enough % of revenue to remain nationally competitive.

    Most of the other schools such as WSU, Cal, and Beavlet already have their kneepads out, just need to teach the shit "4 corners" losers now.


    We need to bolt for the ACC if a Big 10 invitation isn’t coming. We can’t stay in the PAC under any circumstances whatsoever.
    The acc is on shaky ground too. That does no good. Combining two lower tier money makers doesn’t make more money unless you drop some dead weight. Same shitty bandaid. NEM until the big 10 and sec decide to expand.
    Drop it like it's fucking hot

    This is about survival not consensus or giving a shit about coogs or beavers or anyone else
    If the top pac and top acc schools wanted to do this, then sure. If we are helping support wazzu, the beav and wake forests of the world to be 1/2 of the sec or big 10 contracts, no thanks. Better just stay in our or own shitty poor conference than create another one with far away lands.

    I remember a time when the big 12, pac 12 and acc signed a alliance that they were pat hill tough to threaten the big 10 and sec. Those were great times and amounted to zero. I am sure a PR agency was paid for it though.
    I remember when the Pac 12 was going to follow the science and have a player's union and work for social justice instead of having a season in 2020

    Then the B1G said never mind we're playing and the Pac 12 had to scramble for a 4 game season for some teams while others just rooted for Oregon to rep the North

    Jen is right back in the crosshairs and this off season natty won't save her

    Football just doesn't mean more. Or much at all. My guess is UW stays in a shitty Pac whatever and we all die
    Better seats for me!
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,086 Founders Club
    edited February 2023

    Sandra6 said:

    haie said:

    Whatever happens Oregon and Washington just need to prison rape the Pac 12 and remind Jason Scheer and all the Ute fans that still have 🌹's in their Twitter handles that they're headed back to the fucking WAC if they aren't given a high enough % of revenue to remain nationally competitive.

    Most of the other schools such as WSU, Cal, and Beavlet already have their kneepads out, just need to teach the shit "4 corners" losers now.


    We need to bolt for the ACC if a Big 10 invitation isn’t coming. We can’t stay in the PAC under any circumstances whatsoever.
    The acc is on shaky ground too. That does no good. Combining two lower tier money makers doesn’t make more money unless you drop some dead weight. Same shitty bandaid. NEM until the big 10 and sec decide to expand.
    Drop it like it's fucking hot

    This is about survival not consensus or giving a shit about coogs or beavers or anyone else
    If the top pac and top acc schools wanted to do this, then sure. If we are helping support wazzu, the beav and wake forests of the world to be 1/2 of the sec or big 10 contracts, no thanks. Better just stay in our or own shitty poor conference than create another one with far away lands.

    I remember a time when the big 12, pac 12 and acc signed a alliance that they were pat hill tough to threaten the big 10 and sec. Those were great times and amounted to zero. I am sure a PR agency was paid for it though.
    Prestige wise connecting with Clemson, Florida State and Miami would be much better than the castoffs of the Big 12. A second tier of North Carolina, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Pitt and Louisville isn't bad either. Maybe even get Notre Dame to join.

    I don't know how it logistically works though and if it's just a window dressing alliance I don't know if that means anything. Maybe selling a conference championship game between the Pac (West Division) and the ACC (East Division) helps.
  • Sandra6
    Sandra6 Member Posts: 151
    edited February 2023

    Sandra6 said:

    haie said:

    Whatever happens Oregon and Washington just need to prison rape the Pac 12 and remind Jason Scheer and all the Ute fans that still have 🌹's in their Twitter handles that they're headed back to the fucking WAC if they aren't given a high enough % of revenue to remain nationally competitive.

    Most of the other schools such as WSU, Cal, and Beavlet already have their kneepads out, just need to teach the shit "4 corners" losers now.


    We need to bolt for the ACC if a Big 10 invitation isn’t coming. We can’t stay in the PAC under any circumstances whatsoever.
    The acc is on shaky ground too. That does no good. Combining two lower tier money makers doesn’t make more money unless you drop some dead weight. Same shitty bandaid. NEM until the big 10 and sec decide to expand.

    Have you been paying any attention to the PAC’s TV offers? The PAC’s TV offers are something like $20-25 million, with most games on some service like Apple TV that’s even less accessible than the PAC network.

    Even the ACC and Big 12 would be less terrible than that. And we’re not going to the Big 12 because of academics.

    I don’t think people on here have realized just how terrible the PAC’s tv contract is going to be.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330
    Sandra6 said:

    Sandra6 said:

    haie said:

    Whatever happens Oregon and Washington just need to prison rape the Pac 12 and remind Jason Scheer and all the Ute fans that still have 🌹's in their Twitter handles that they're headed back to the fucking WAC if they aren't given a high enough % of revenue to remain nationally competitive.

    Most of the other schools such as WSU, Cal, and Beavlet already have their kneepads out, just need to teach the shit "4 corners" losers now.


    We need to bolt for the ACC if a Big 10 invitation isn’t coming. We can’t stay in the PAC under any circumstances whatsoever.
    The acc is on shaky ground too. That does no good. Combining two lower tier money makers doesn’t make more money unless you drop some dead weight. Same shitty bandaid. NEM until the big 10 and sec decide to expand.

    Have you been paying any attention to the PAC’s TV offers? The PAC’s TV offers are something like $20-25 million, with most games on some service like Apple TV that’s even less accessible than the PAC network.

    Even the ACC and Big 12 would be less terrible than that. And we’re not going to the Big 12 because of academics.

    I don’t think people on here have realized just how terrible the PAC’s tv contract is going to be.
    So if the pac12 schools add themselves to the acc, that magically makes them worth more? The acc already has a similar deal. Clemson and fsu are gone at first chance.

    The only way this works is if the top acc schools and top pac 12 schools drop the anchors that produce nothing and form a new conference.

    Highly unlikely given the exit fees and politics involved. But carry on asking if anyone understands the difference between us and the rich kids.
  • huskyhooligan
    huskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,924 Swaye's Wigwam
    Wait was the @PurpleBaze massive dong shout out in this one or the next one?

    Askin fo a fwen.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    im still clueless as to why maryland and new jersey were admitted to the union while oregon/washington had to wait.

    Baltimore, D.C., New York, and New Jersey TV markets. Plus they were much closer in proximity as well.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,815 Founders Club

    im still clueless as to why maryland and new jersey were admitted to the union while oregon/washington had to wait.

    Baltimore, D.C., New York, and New Jersey TV markets. Plus they were much closer in proximity as well.
    To be fair there were no TV sets
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,815 Founders Club
    Gonzaga has been doing this for longer than most realize. From the cute under dog Zags to the insufferable Zaggots.

    Still no ring. That's the down side

    Or see TCU this year against Georgia
  • rodmansrage
    rodmansrage Member Posts: 6,376

    im still clueless as to why maryland and new jersey were admitted to the union while oregon/washington had to wait.

    Baltimore, D.C., New York, and New Jersey TV markets. Plus they were much closer in proximity as well.



    To be fair there were no TV sets

    race was there!
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter
    This was probably my favorite episode in quite awhile. Well done, gentlemen.

    While everyone made some compelling arguments for what situation would be best for Washington, I don’t think it’s going to matter much as I suspect there will be more realignment and playoff expansion in the future.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,697 Founders Club

    This was probably my favorite episode in quite awhile. Well done, gentlemen.

    While everyone made some compelling arguments for what situation would be best for Washington, I don’t think it’s going to matter much as I suspect there will be more realignment and playoff expansion in the future.

    It's looking more and more like staying in the Pac won't be an option.
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter
    haie said:

    This was probably my favorite episode in quite awhile. Well done, gentlemen.

    While everyone made some compelling arguments for what situation would be best for Washington, I don’t think it’s going to matter much as I suspect there will be more realignment and playoff expansion in the future.

    It's looking more and more like staying in the Pac won't be an option.
    Yeah, the USS Larry Scott is sinking and everyone grabbing the best lifeboat they can find. You mentioned upthread about Utah and the “four corners” schools. I read somewhere they might want to go to the Big XII, but who the hell knows. I’m just still here with my bowl of popcorn enjoying the chaos.

    If DeBoer continues to take care of business, I think UW will be fine no matter where they land, though obviously some scenarios are better than others.
  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,256 Founders Club
    Gonzaga made their famous E

    This was probably my favorite episode in quite awhile. Well done, gentlemen.

    While everyone made some compelling arguments for what situation would be best for Washington, I don’t think it’s going to matter much as I suspect there will be more realignment and playoff expansion in the future.

    Why thank you my dear
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,086 Founders Club

    haie said:

    This was probably my favorite episode in quite awhile. Well done, gentlemen.

    While everyone made some compelling arguments for what situation would be best for Washington, I don’t think it’s going to matter much as I suspect there will be more realignment and playoff expansion in the future.

    It's looking more and more like staying in the Pac won't be an option.
    Yeah, the USS Larry Scott is sinking and everyone grabbing the best lifeboat they can find. You mentioned upthread about Utah and the “four corners” schools. I read somewhere they might want to go to the Big XII, but who the hell knows. I’m just still here with my bowl of popcorn enjoying the chaos.

    If DeBoer continues to take care of business, I think UW will be fine no matter where they land, though obviously some scenarios are better than others.
    True, there's a lot of dominoes falling with realignment that are important to not get crushed by off the field, but the most important thing still right now is winning and staying committed to football. Do both and the rest will sort itself out. Also, keep in-mind, like in 2000 with the BCS, and in 84 for the natty, Washington is probably always going to get get fucked. It just is what it is. It is one thing that keeps me interested in staying in the Pac. It could be more fun to win a conference and then think about the rest later than constantly be trying to climb above the tide in another conference.