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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,609
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    edited February 2023
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:


    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.
    I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update

    The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.

    You keep lapping it up, boy.

    Obstinate.

    This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientam

    let that sink in
    I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...
    Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.

    The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
    Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?
    Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.
    Your @Sources think you are a Rube.

    Hope this helps.




    @PostGameOrangeSlices
    Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.

    The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.

    This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego

    Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?

    Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.

    VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.

    It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
    My sources are military men with long careers who still have their own sources on the inside. Both having long studied Russia. One was Chief UN Weapons Inspector, the other a Senior Advisor to Secretary of Defense. They have more or less been accurate the whole way.

    Your sources are Biden voters being spoon fed by the CIA. Putin is literally Hitler.


    Hope this fucking helps. It won't, but still.


    You're the one seriously claiming the Russian military resounding defeats are "retreats to the high ground"

    It reads like some off season natty doog shit. The Russians are working harder than ever, it wasn't a loss it was planned retreats, those elite paratroopers that all died were just the C team, wait until the REAL Russians show up!

    You couldn't be more uninformed if you tried.
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,845
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    pawz said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:


    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.
    I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update

    The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.

    You keep lapping it up, boy.

    Obstinate.

    This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientam

    let that sink in
    I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...
    Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.

    The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
    Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?
    Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.
    Your @Sources think you are a Rube.

    Hope this helps.




    @PostGameOrangeSlices
    Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.

    The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.

    This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego

    Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?

    Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.

    VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.

    It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
    Putin lives in an information bubble of his own creation. He believed his own propaganda that those elite VDV paratroopers would be welcomed as liberators.

    Our own leadership is in the process of creating a similar echo chamber capable of similar historic blunders.


    Yup. They expected a Special Military Operation resulting in Zelensky fleeing or dead, the collapse of the Ukranian Army, and parades in Kyiv within a weeks time.

    Russian command had called in and booked meals at restaurants in Kyiv. Columns of riot police were on their way to instill law and order.

    They ended up like this:



    Too little infantry and air support, too many Ukranians on the flanks with anti-armor.

    It is honestly one of the worst blunders of all time.
    One street in the middle of an area the size of Texas. Also, no 'Z' on the back of the vehicles.

    Worst blunder, confirmed.

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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,845
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    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:


    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.
    I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update

    The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.

    You keep lapping it up, boy.

    Obstinate.

    This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientam

    let that sink in
    I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...
    Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.

    The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
    Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?
    Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.
    Your @Sources think you are a Rube.

    Hope this helps.




    @PostGameOrangeSlices
    Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.

    The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.

    This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego

    Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?

    Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.

    VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.

    It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
    My sources are military men with long careers who still have their own sources on the inside. Both having long studied Russia. One was Chief UN Weapons Inspector, the other a Senior Advisor to Secretary of Defense. They have more or less been accurate the whole way.

    Your sources are Biden voters being spoon fed by the CIA. Putin is literally Hitler.


    Hope this fucking helps. It won't, but still.


    You're the one seriously claiming the Russian military resounding defeats are "retreats to the high ground"

    You couldn't be more uninformed if you tried.
    I produced my source.

    You seem to know more than a fmr Chief UN Weapons Inspector.

    'Nuff said on that.

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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,609
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    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:


    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.
    I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update

    The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.

    You keep lapping it up, boy.

    Obstinate.

    This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientam

    let that sink in
    I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...
    Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.

    The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
    Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?
    Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.
    Your @Sources think you are a Rube.

    Hope this helps.




    @PostGameOrangeSlices
    Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.

    The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.

    This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego

    Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?

    Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.

    VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.

    It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
    Putin lives in an information bubble of his own creation. He believed his own propaganda that those elite VDV paratroopers would be welcomed as liberators.

    Our own leadership is in the process of creating a similar echo chamber capable of similar historic blunders.


    Yup. They expected a Special Military Operation resulting in Zelensky fleeing or dead, the collapse of the Ukranian Army, and parades in Kyiv within a weeks time.

    Russian command had called in and booked meals at restaurants in Kyiv. Columns of riot police were on their way to instill law and order.

    They ended up like this:



    Too little infantry and air support, too many Ukranians on the flanks with anti-armor.

    It is honestly one of the worst blunders of all time.
    One street in the middle of an area the size of Texas. Also, no 'Z' on the back of the vehicles.

    Worst blunder, confirmed.

    Look at you. Deny, deny, deny.

    Yeah, you can't see the painted white Z because it got fucking roasted off. Christ.
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,845
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    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:


    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.
    I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update

    The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.

    You keep lapping it up, boy.

    Obstinate.

    This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientam

    let that sink in
    I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...
    Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.

    The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
    Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?
    Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.
    Your @Sources think you are a Rube.

    Hope this helps.




    @PostGameOrangeSlices
    Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.

    The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.

    This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego

    Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?

    Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.

    VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.

    It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
    Putin lives in an information bubble of his own creation. He believed his own propaganda that those elite VDV paratroopers would be welcomed as liberators.

    Our own leadership is in the process of creating a similar echo chamber capable of similar historic blunders.


    Yup. They expected a Special Military Operation resulting in Zelensky fleeing or dead, the collapse of the Ukranian Army, and parades in Kyiv within a weeks time.

    Russian command had called in and booked meals at restaurants in Kyiv. Columns of riot police were on their way to instill law and order.

    They ended up like this:



    Too little infantry and air support, too many Ukranians on the flanks with anti-armor.

    It is honestly one of the worst blunders of all time.
    One street in the middle of an area the size of Texas. Also, no 'Z' on the back of the vehicles.

    Worst blunder, confirmed.

    Look at you. Deny, deny, deny.

    Yeah, you can't see the painted white Z because it got fucking roasted off. Christ.
    Moreover, all the photos of Russian vehicles I've seen were green. Not fucking orange.

    Orange you a gullible one.

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    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:


    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.
    I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update

    The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.

    You keep lapping it up, boy.

    Obstinate.

    This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientam

    let that sink in
    I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...
    Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.

    The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
    Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?
    Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.
    Your @Sources think you are a Rube.

    Hope this helps.




    @PostGameOrangeSlices
    Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.

    The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.

    This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego

    Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?

    Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.

    VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.

    It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
    Putin lives in an information bubble of his own creation. He believed his own propaganda that those elite VDV paratroopers would be welcomed as liberators.

    Our own leadership is in the process of creating a similar echo chamber capable of similar historic blunders.


    Yup. They expected a Special Military Operation resulting in Zelensky fleeing or dead, the collapse of the Ukranian Army, and parades in Kyiv within a weeks time.

    Russian command had called in and booked meals at restaurants in Kyiv. Columns of riot police were on their way to instill law and order.

    They ended up like this:



    Too little infantry and air support, too many Ukranians on the flanks with anti-armor.

    It is honestly one of the worst blunders of all time.
    One street in the middle of an area the size of Texas. Also, no 'Z' on the back of the vehicles.

    Worst blunder, confirmed.

    Look at you. Deny, deny, deny.

    Yeah, you can't see the painted white Z because it got fucking roasted off. Christ.
    Moreover, all the photos of Russian vehicles I've seen were green. Not fucking orange.

    Orange you a gullible one.

    Holy shit you are one stupid motherfucker. LOL.
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,845
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    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:


    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.
    I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update

    The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.

    You keep lapping it up, boy.

    Obstinate.

    This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientam

    let that sink in
    I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...
    Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.

    The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
    Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?
    Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.
    Your @Sources think you are a Rube.

    Hope this helps.




    @PostGameOrangeSlices
    Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.

    The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.

    This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego

    Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?

    Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.

    VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.

    It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
    Putin lives in an information bubble of his own creation. He believed his own propaganda that those elite VDV paratroopers would be welcomed as liberators.

    Our own leadership is in the process of creating a similar echo chamber capable of similar historic blunders.


    Yup. They expected a Special Military Operation resulting in Zelensky fleeing or dead, the collapse of the Ukranian Army, and parades in Kyiv within a weeks time.

    Russian command had called in and booked meals at restaurants in Kyiv. Columns of riot police were on their way to instill law and order.

    They ended up like this:



    Too little infantry and air support, too many Ukranians on the flanks with anti-armor.

    It is honestly one of the worst blunders of all time.
    One street in the middle of an area the size of Texas. Also, no 'Z' on the back of the vehicles.

    Worst blunder, confirmed.

    Look at you. Deny, deny, deny.

    Yeah, you can't see the painted white Z because it got fucking roasted off. Christ.
    Moreover, all the photos of Russian vehicles I've seen were green. Not fucking orange.

    Orange you a gullible one.

    Holy shit you are one stupid motherfucker. LOL.
    Why would anyone drive an orange vehicle into war in Europe? Do you see a desert anywhere?

    Speaking of stupid motherfuckers.


    Putin is literally Hitler.
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    edited February 2023
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:


    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    Smooth brain takes from both of you.

    The US, and NATO has spent how many billions, if not trillions, on R&D, weapon production, and all around planning for taking on a foe like Russia?

    Now, our surplus stock in the hands of Ex-Soviet block countries is absolutely SHREDDING big bad Russia. It's actually amazing to watch, if you follow it and don't just gargle Tucker's balls on the topic.

    We are basically eliminating Russia as a future threat to the world for pennies on the dollar.

    Yes, I know Ukraine is corrupt. Yes, I know Burisma is a thing. I don't give a shit.

    Russia is getting it's ass fucked by it's younger brother and Uncle Sam is getting a fantastic ROI. Plus, amazing intel on all things Russia - which has proven to be a complete paper tiger incapable of countering HIMARS artillery made by the US in...the 80s.

    China is watching this shitshow with concern, too. They would never be able to sniff Taiwan, and they now know it.

    The US can't even pay for it's own problems, why the fuck would you want to get an 'ROI" on a corrupt piece of shit country and their corrupt POS leader?

    If you can't grasp this is way, way, way more dangerous to our national security than Vietnam and Afghanistan, there's not much I can do for you. Backing Putin into a spot where both sides are openly discussing tactical nuclear deployment is unfathomable. But go ahead and virtue signal blue and yellow all you want. Russia and Ukraine conflicts go back centuries. We have no business there.

    This is shitty deal for the US and the fucking dementia patient who OK'd blowing up Russia's Nord Stream pipeline is going to be all hunkered down in his underground bunker eating ice cream while the rest of us have to sweat out the Cuban missile crisis Part 2.0. All over covering up his corrupt kid and pandering to all the shady shit the US has been funding in Ukraine.

    No thanks. Fuck "ROI". All it takes is that 'paper tiger' to launch a couple dozen nukes and we're all fucked.




    Russia isn't going to do a fucking thing with nukes.

    If the state of their nukes is anything close to the state of their army, 75% of them probably aren't even functional.

    Surplus military equipment from the 80s isn't going to benefit Kent and Kennewick. Might as well give it to Ukraine to help them defend their land from a Kim Grinolds esque dictator.

    Appeasement has worked so well in dealing with Russia in the past. Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere

    The hard on some people on the right have for Russia is flat out embarrassing. Grow some balls.
    Embarrassing venture into the tug.
    I'm 100% right on this topic.

    Defending democracy, even corrupt and struggling ones, is important. And we are doing it by giving said democracy old weapons and intelligence.

    Having Russia gobble up ex USSR countries is not good for anyone.

    The fact that Russia wasn't able to take down Ukraine in the first month of the war is embarrassing. The fact Russia can't even fly planes into Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is afraid to use the S-35 and T-14 in Ukraine is embarrassing. The fact Russia is pulling 50s and 60s tanks out of storage is embarrassing.

    Everything about this is embarrassing for Russia and incredible to watch. The takes you guys have on the matter are embarrassing, too.
    You clearly have not listened to any former military personnel talk about Russia’s overall approach to this war. Starting with their initial incursion. Which was encouraged by Joey.
    I have listened to plenty. The consensus is that this had been a disaster for Russia and they are absolutely fucked.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-general-says-russia-has-lost-the-ukraine-war-2023-2

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/russian-army-has-lost-up-to-half-of-key-battle-tanks-analysts-estimate-ukraine

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/20/russia-has-significantly-more-than-100000-casualties-in-ukraine-milley/

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1736394/putin-troops-russia-casualties-wagner-group-mercenaries-uk-ministry-defence-update

    The consensus has been categorically wrong for over 6 years now.

    You keep lapping it up, boy.

    Obstinate.

    This has been 3-4 times deadlier for Russia in one year than for the US in entirety of the War in Vientam

    let that sink in
    I heard that the Ghost of Kiev personally killed thousands...
    Hold on a sec there, turbo. Sure, there are lots of casualties and deaths, but those are based on estimates, satellite imagery, and there's no reason for anyone to distort the numbers, is there? I mean, we just gotta trust them.

    The head of Wagner posted this today. In one area of the front:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/118uje2/ua_pov_prigozhin_publishes_photo_of_wagner_kia_in/
    Haven't you been chastising people for their sources?
    Not really, for the most part Ive been posting sources to support my arguments.
    Your @Sources think you are a Rube.

    Hope this helps.




    @PostGameOrangeSlices
    Your sources are a few hot takes on youtube podcasts.

    The evidence is clear. This isnt some grand conspiracy.

    This is Russia starting a land war in Europe in 2023 for greed and ego

    Russia thought they saw weakness in the West and an opportunity to strike. After all, after Crimea, the Donbas, Georgia, and Chechnya, why wouldnt this work out?

    Turns out their table top battle plans shit the fucking bed.

    VDV massacred at Hostomel airport. Flagship battleship sunk. Cannot even fly planes into Ukrainian territory, and that was before Western anti air started arriving.

    It's one of the worst military blunders of all time.
    Putin lives in an information bubble of his own creation. He believed his own propaganda that those elite VDV paratroopers would be welcomed as liberators.

    Our own leadership is in the process of creating a similar echo chamber capable of similar historic blunders.


    Yup. They expected a Special Military Operation resulting in Zelensky fleeing or dead, the collapse of the Ukranian Army, and parades in Kyiv within a weeks time.

    Russian command had called in and booked meals at restaurants in Kyiv. Columns of riot police were on their way to instill law and order.

    They ended up like this:



    Too little infantry and air support, too many Ukranians on the flanks with anti-armor.

    It is honestly one of the worst blunders of all time.
    One street in the middle of an area the size of Texas. Also, no 'Z' on the back of the vehicles.

    Worst blunder, confirmed.

    Look at you. Deny, deny, deny.

    Yeah, you can't see the painted white Z because it got fucking roasted off. Christ.
    Moreover, all the photos of Russian vehicles I've seen were green. Not fucking orange.

    Orange you a gullible one.

    Holy shit you are one stupid motherfucker. LOL.
    Why would anyone drive an orange vehicle into war in Europe? Do you see a desert anywhere?

    Speaking of stupid motherfuckers.


    Putin is literally Hitler.

    You have got to be fucking trolling. That is what burnt out vehicles look like, genius. LOL.





















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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,845
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    @PostGameOrangeSlices

    Just like Covid. Just like Russiagate. Just like the last motherfucking 6 years.



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    pawz said:

    @PostGameOrangeSlices

    Just like Covid. Just like Russiagate. Just like the last motherfucking 6 years.




    Keep looking for those orange vehicles you dumb fuck
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    This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.
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    hardhat said:

    This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.

    Not for the reasons you think it will be. HTH
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    hardhat said:

    This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.

    Not for the reasons you think it will be. HTH
    Keep digging!
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    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.

    Not for the reasons you think it will be. HTH
    Keep digging!
    Keep digging with Pawz until you guys find the orange tanks and BMPs! They're down there somewhere!
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    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.

    Not for the reasons you think it will be. HTH
    Keep digging!
    Keep digging with Pawz until you guys find the orange tanks and BMPs! They're down there somewhere!
    What the fuck are you talking about, weirdo? You're going to end up being embarrassed by simply regurgitating what you heard on MSNBC.
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    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.

    Not for the reasons you think it will be. HTH
    Keep digging!
    Keep digging with Pawz until you guys find the orange tanks and BMPs! They're down there somewhere!
    What the fuck are you talking about, weirdo? You're going to end up being embarrassed by simply regurgitating what you heard on MSNBC.
    What I'm talking about is that you and Pawz don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Read a few replies above for reference.

    The only ones getting embarrassed here is team Putin. Red-blooded American's bending over backwards to make excuses for Russia is a fucking travesty. Do better.
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    Sledog said:

    We've sent them more money and weapons than the Russian yearly military budget and they haven't won. They should be on their own!

    this is such a stupid fucking take that it's honestly mindblowing
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    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.

    Not for the reasons you think it will be. HTH
    Keep digging!
    Keep digging with Pawz until you guys find the orange tanks and BMPs! They're down there somewhere!
    What the fuck are you talking about, weirdo? You're going to end up being embarrassed by simply regurgitating what you heard on MSNBC.
    What I'm talking about is that you and Pawz don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Read a few replies above for reference.

    The only ones getting embarrassed here is team Putin. Red-blooded American's bending over backwards to make excuses for Russia is a fucking travesty. Do better.
    It's embarrassing to hear the discourse from shitheads like you. Anything that doesn't line up with TEAM UKRAINE means someone is team Putin. Anyone who questions mandates and lockdowns is a Trumper. Anyone who vaguely talks about free speech is a fascist.
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    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    hardhat said:

    This will be a fun thread to revisit in a few months.

    Not for the reasons you think it will be. HTH
    Keep digging!
    Keep digging with Pawz until you guys find the orange tanks and BMPs! They're down there somewhere!
    What the fuck are you talking about, weirdo? You're going to end up being embarrassed by simply regurgitating what you heard on MSNBC.
    What I'm talking about is that you and Pawz don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Read a few replies above for reference.

    The only ones getting embarrassed here is team Putin. Red-blooded American's bending over backwards to make excuses for Russia is a fucking travesty. Do better.
    It's embarrassing to hear the discourse from shitheads like you. Anything that doesn't line up with TEAM UKRAINE means someone is team Putin. Anyone who questions mandates and lockdowns is a Trumper. Anyone who vaguely talks about free speech is a fascist.

    If you weren't such a clueless piece of shit you'd know that I actually agree with you on the lockdowns and free speech stuff. This isn't my first rodeo in the tug.

    Try to keep up.
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