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No one was running around with purple hair, man-hole (term which needs to be eliminated) sized cavities in their ears, face tattoos and 30 peircings. I guess I need to be more woke likE JW. To each their own....naw...fuck off freaks.thechatch said:No. A few kids who everyone knew were closet cases but no one cared. It’s been 25 years but I don’t recall those people being singled out or picked on or whatever.
Probably different in the social media age but in the 90s we just really didn’t give a shit about that stuff. No one was running around the halls in HS in a drag outfit yelling about how their rights were being violated because they couldn’t take their wiener into the girls lockeroom. -
This would make an excellent discussion. What have you witnessed that would indicate homosexuality is genetic? I'd say it is more environmental.creepycoug said:
Nope. Not one. I'm in the camp with Douglas Murray on this one. We are making permanent decisions with kids, and we are managing our culture on the basis of an all-in assumption that trans is like gay: just who you are. Murray (who is gay) says, and I agree, that we don't know much of anything about trans and we should, at the very least, be pumping the breaks on it. He also believes, as do I, that mental illness is likely a big driver, but being the academic that he is, he doens't firmly conclude on that point w/o a study. At least as far as the last talk he gave that I have watched.SFGbob said:Do you recall a single "trans-gender" student during any of your 12 years of primary, Junior high and high school?
Although I am not gay (I swear!) and have no gay children or siblings, I don't agree with the subtle conflation of trans and gay in the public discourse on this issue. And that's on both sides of the debate.
Gay has been with us since the dawn of time, and while I believe there can be some "fashionable" joining of a lifestyle on some occasions for a period of time, it seems that homosexuality is largely a born-in trait. Trans is something else altogether from what I can tell.
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There are studies that show similarities in (1) gay men and straight women and (2) gay women and straight men, in parts of the brain that are associated with sexual observation and behavior. The prevailing thought is that sexual orientation is largely genetic, further supported by the fact that animals demonstrate gay behavior at times.RoadTrip said:
This would make an excellent discussion. What have you witnessed that would indicate homosexuality is genetic? I'd say it is more environmental.creepycoug said:
Nope. Not one. I'm in the camp with Douglas Murray on this one. We are making permanent decisions with kids, and we are managing our culture on the basis of an all-in assumption that trans is like gay: just who you are. Murray (who is gay) says, and I agree, that we don't know much of anything about trans and we should, at the very least, be pumping the breaks on it. He also believes, as do I, that mental illness is likely a big driver, but being the academic that he is, he doens't firmly conclude on that point w/o a study. At least as far as the last talk he gave that I have watched.SFGbob said:Do you recall a single "trans-gender" student during any of your 12 years of primary, Junior high and high school?
Although I am not gay (I swear!) and have no gay children or siblings, I don't agree with the subtle conflation of trans and gay in the public discourse on this issue. And that's on both sides of the debate.
Gay has been with us since the dawn of time, and while I believe there can be some "fashionable" joining of a lifestyle on some occasions for a period of time, it seems that homosexuality is largely a born-in trait. Trans is something else altogether from what I can tell.
The transgender/gender dysphoria issue is more...complicated. Some evidence suggests that it's a combination of genetic and environmental factors, but from what I can tell, the genetic evidence is tenuous at best (perhaps genetic to the extent that more impressionable and/or depressed people tend to end up with gender dysphoria as a coping mechanism). -
I think we all develop certain attractions. Stalin and Asian women for example. Men to women, women to men, men to men. women to women. That’s been consistent I believe since we emerged from caves.
The road we’re on now is well beyond what defines men and women and the attempt to erase both is the goal of some very radical people.
How can there be a gay man if we’re telling children that there are no boundaries for what constitutes a man or a woman for that matter? The entire DIM party now refuses to define woman.
You’re erasing groups in order to normalize the behavior of a tiny fraction of mankind. At some point sane people need to pushback and courageously confront this insanity.
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Maybe I'm in the minority, but I worked on Broadway when I was 19, keeping my eyes open and my bum-bum closed. My first day on the job as a busboy, I was surprised to hear one gay waiter call another gay waiter a fag. ("Don't be such a fag" was the statement.) I realized right then and there that gay men used "fag" the same way we straight kids from the burbs did in the 70s & 80s, to wit "Stop acting girly. Act like a man." It was not a slur, per se, but a term deployed to express annoyance at another's behavior in the group.creepycoug said:
We had a few kids who everyone knew was gay and would eventually come out officially, and they did. We also had a great teacher who was openly gay ... had an antagonistic relationship with the administration, which itself was just a confederacy of mediocre people. The gay teacher was anything but that.RaceBannon said:As a kid we would have lunch with my mom's college friend who lived with her female friend. They both had real short hair
The folks never acted like it was any kind of thing.
Olympia was progressive unlike Aberdeen
We may have had a gay kid at school. Don't know
Cross dressing was the trans of the 60s
But even in the Deen and even in the 80s, beating up suspected gay people like rumble fish and his SS buddies would have been viewed as low brow and beneath civilized behavior. I say again: even in fucking Aberdeen even in the 80s.
Let me be clear: although I grew up using gay slurs in the pejorative, actual and serious fear of gay people is super and really dumb.
I always understood, and had it explained to me by gay friends, that homophobia was not the fear of homosexuals, per se, but the fear of being gay ourselves or possessing traits that might possibly lead someday to gobbling dick. I was never abusive to gay people because they were gay, but there were some gay dudes I worked with that just couldn't turn it off and self-alienated from both gay and straight friends. Many of them died from AIDS in the 80s and 90s, and I do feel sad about that, because everybody deserves a chance to get their shit together and blend into society, paying their taxes and doing good for their community & families.
I urge everyone to watch the video I posted above if you want to know what's really going on inside the Trans-Epidemic.
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This gives me an idea for a movie remake…Southerndawg said:
Trans freak being a dude. The gen pop needs to stop going along with this nonsense of identifying them as "girls or women". Because they're not. They're cosmetically altered mentally ill boys or men. They have no business competing against girls or women. If they want to compete, then let them compete in a tranny league of their own.RoadTrip said:A good friend in Rocklin has a daughter who is a senior in HS and a women's lacrosse player. Her team lost 16 to 15 this week. A trans freak scored 15 of the 16 goals. Apparently this freak ran around the entire field knocking the shit out of the smaller, slower girls. The it's parents must be so proud.
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Hold on. Gay people are gay for sure. I couldn't just start liking dudes.
Trans have a mental illness.
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Gay was a "mental illness" until it wasn't.Pitchfork51 said:Hold on. Gay people are gay for sure. I couldn't just start liking dudes.
Trans have a mental illness.
If you can't look at your dick and realize you're a dude then idk what to tell you
Trans doesn't have any single explanation that I know of, but intersex people are definitely, objectively intersex. They aren't imagining it.
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It's such an extreme minority that the actual trans shit doesn't really matter. It's mostly that it's their loudness in politics that's the problemHHusky said:
Gay was a "mental illness" until it wasn't.Pitchfork51 said:Hold on. Gay people are gay for sure. I couldn't just start liking dudes.
Trans have a mental illness.
If you can't look at your dick and realize you're a dude then idk what to tell you
Trans doesn't have any single explanation that I know of, but intersex people are definitely, objectively intersex. They aren't imagining it.
Because I don't like you libs.
