Dana Hall gets it
https://www.si.com/college/washington/.amp/football/uw-national-title-cornerback-says-time-to-weed-out-the-uncommitted
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"...coach might be better served blowing up the building and get his own guys in..."
Wait 'til he gets his own guys in there.
Also, leave the blowing up of buildings to the pros; thank you very much. -
So PGOS really is going to start for the squad?
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Unfortunately this problem is way bigger than UW. Way bigger.
The game is slowly being ruined, and that’s not sour grapes. It’s really time for a whole sale re-evaluation of the baseline for college athletics. And that starts with the first and most important question: why do we? do this and for whom do we do it?
Then, and this won’t be popular, are we? involving the right kinds of people in this activity?
They seem like simple questions, but opinions vary wildly. -
All the things that made me enjoy the game more than the NFL product have gone the way of the dodo. So, yes, I wonder what’s the fucking point?creepycoug said:Unfortunately this problem is way bigger than UW. Way bigger.
The game is slowly being ruined, and that’s not sour grapes. It’s really time for a whole sale re-evaluation of the baseline for college athletics. And that starts with the first and most important question: why do we? do this and for whom do we do it?
Then, and this won’t be popular, are we? involving the right kinds of people in this activity?
They seem like simple questions, but opinions vary wildly.
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Thanks @BuildingSevenDwag !!PurpleBaze said:"...coach might be better served blowing up the building and get his own guys in..."
Wait 'til he gets his own guys in there.
Also, leave the blowing up of buildings to the pros; thank you very much.
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Husky Legend, telling it like it is, and he's 100% absolutely correct... he was so fun to watch, made the game look easy.
Let the purge continue. -
Slowly?creepycoug said:Unfortunately this problem is way bigger than UW. Way bigger.
The game is slowly being ruined, and that’s not sour grapes. It’s really time for a whole sale re-evaluation of the baseline for college athletics. And that starts with the first and most important question: why do we? do this and for whom do we do it?
Then, and this won’t be popular, are we? involving the right kinds of people in this activity?
They seem like simple questions, but opinions vary wildly. -
These boreds:
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I put on a new pair of sweatpants, came up from the basement, and updated my mom about what was happening in CFB. She was really surprised about the portaling and especially within conferences.
Only grad transfers should be able to transfer within conferences and play immediately. Otherwise this portaling stuff will lead schools to poach coaches other conference schools who will then encourage players to leave their previous school for the new school (rival). -
College football and basketball are minor leagues which creates the problem. Based off of the people involved they don’t want it to be that. But they make so much money off of it it’s only fair to let the players make the money too. The other issue is if you tried to form an independent actual minor league nobody will watch and they don’t make money. The logos actually matter more than the players.
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Exactly. Without the school uni, the players are worth nothing. If people want to argue the players need a bigger cut that argument can be mad, but don’t for a second think it’s the individual players generating the revenue.AtomicDawg said:College football and basketball are minor leagues which creates the problem. Based off of the people involved they don’t want it to be that. But they make so much money off of it it’s only fair to let the players make the money too. The other issue is if you tried to form an independent actual minor league nobody will watch and they don’t make money. The logos actually matter more than the players.
Take the same players from Oregon and Washington, put them on minor league NFL teams from Eugene and Seattle and see how much money they bring in from attendance, TV, and merch. No one would care or watch. We know this because it’s been tried. But with better players than college players. -
I wasn’t a grumpy old man till all these cuntless fags started ruining college football.TheHB said:These boreds:
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DeBoner already needs more tim.
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MikeDamone said:
Not just the players. Also the coaches, the ADs, Chris Fowler, Lee Corso,the Home Depot College Gameday presented by AT&T, the Meineke.com Muffler Chicken Salad Bowl chairman that makes $300k a year, and every single head of every conference making $2 million a year and the whole fucking NCAA.AtomicDawg said:.
Take the same players from Oregon and Washington, put them on minor league NFL teams from Eugene and Seattle and see how much money they bring in from attendance, TV, and merch. No one would care or watch. We know this because it’s been tried. But with better players than college players.
It’s not just the players and it is stupid to limit the criticism to just them. -
Alpo said:
I fucked up the block quote or whatever. You get the point.MikeDamone said:
Not just the players. Also the coaches, the ADs, Chris Fowler, Lee Corso,the Home Depot College Gameday presented by AT&T, the Meineke.com Muffler Chicken Salad Bowl chairman that makes $300k a year, and every single head of every conference making $2 million a year and the whole fucking NCAA.AtomicDawg said:.
Take the same players from Oregon and Washington, put them on minor league NFL teams from Eugene and Seattle and see how much money they bring in from attendance, TV, and merch. No one would care or watch. We know this because it’s been tried. But with better players than college players.
It’s not just the players and it is stupid to limit the criticism to just them. -
What the vacuum selling U0 alums will be saying over and over next year..dtd said:DeBoner already needs more tim.
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This is pretty spot on. The only people who attend minor league baseball games are people who (1) are insane fans and have little else going on their lives, or (2) are serious baseball fans and live in cities without a MLB team. It's a functional league and nobody gaF who wins whatever division. It's a talent farm, hence the name.MikeDamone said:
Exactly. Without the school uni, the players are worth nothing. If people want to argue the players need a bigger cut that argument can be mad, but don’t for a second think it’s the individual players generating the revenue.AtomicDawg said:College football and basketball are minor leagues which creates the problem. Based off of the people involved they don’t want it to be that. But they make so much money off of it it’s only fair to let the players make the money too. The other issue is if you tried to form an independent actual minor league nobody will watch and they don’t make money. The logos actually matter more than the players.
Take the same players from Oregon and Washington, put them on minor league NFL teams from Eugene and Seattle and see how much money they bring in from attendance, TV, and merch. No one would care or watch. We know this because it’s been tried. But with better players than college players.
College football is different precisely because of the school and geographical affiliation. It's why every fan base hates when a local kid leaves to play against the local team. It's emotional and personal.
Some of the same principles apply to the NFL as well. If they players go too far and fuck up the league then they have nowhere to go. We all know there are people who have the physical talent to play at the NFL level who for whatever reason (usually they're fucked up people) aren't doing it. A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes. -
Fuck the kids.creepycoug said:
This is pretty spot on. The only people who attend minor league baseball games are people who (1) are insane fans and have little else going on their lives, or (2) are serious baseball fans and live in cities without a MLB team. It's a functional league and nobody gaF who wins whatever division. It's a talent farm, hence the name.MikeDamone said:
Exactly. Without the school uni, the players are worth nothing. If people want to argue the players need a bigger cut that argument can be mad, but don’t for a second think it’s the individual players generating the revenue.AtomicDawg said:College football and basketball are minor leagues which creates the problem. Based off of the people involved they don’t want it to be that. But they make so much money off of it it’s only fair to let the players make the money too. The other issue is if you tried to form an independent actual minor league nobody will watch and they don’t make money. The logos actually matter more than the players.
Take the same players from Oregon and Washington, put them on minor league NFL teams from Eugene and Seattle and see how much money they bring in from attendance, TV, and merch. No one would care or watch. We know this because it’s been tried. But with better players than college players.
College football is different precisely because of the school and geographical affiliation. It's why every fan base hates when a local kid leaves to play against the local team. It's emotional and personal.
Some of the same principles apply to the NFL as well. If they players go too far and fuck up the league then they have nowhere to go. We all know there are people who have the physical talent to play at the NFL level who for whatever reason (usually they're fucked up people) aren't doing it. A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes.
I care about Washington. -
I legit wish they would make some kind of stupid pro development league and make the NFL just deal with the stupidity of all these big headed 17 year olds.
Let the top kids go get jobs in the football G league and lock down cfb back to how it was. There will still be tons of kids drafted from college if you take the top 10 percent of high-school kids out of college signing day. -
There's a DE at Walla? Well, fuck me! Yes, those are the guys we need, bring back the mercenaries. IDGAF, we need to recruit prisons then. We need big, fast, mean, and don't give a shit about stars and feelings guys.creepycoug said:A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes.
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Seriously. If the kids need to get paid at age 18 or 19, let the fucking NFL create that league.Canadawg said:I legit wish they would make some kind of stupid pro development league and make the NFL just deal with the stupidity of all these big headed 17 year olds.
Let the top kids go get jobs in the football G league and lock down cfb back to how it was. There will still be tons of kids drafted from college if you take the top 10 percent of high-school kids out of college signing day.
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UW doesn’t accept transfer credits from Walla Walla. No PE degree here, either. Not gonna happen.dannarc said:
There's a DE at Walla? Well, fuck me! Yes, those are the guys we need, bring back the mercenaries. IDGAF, we need to recruit prisons then. We need big, fast, mean, and don't give a shit about stars and feelings guys.creepycoug said:A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes. -
UW doesn't accept transfer credits from a lot of CCs. Hope the new staff knows that.Alpo said:
UW doesn’t accept transfer credits from Walla Walla. No PE degree here, either. Not gonna happen.dannarc said:
There's a DE at Walla? Well, fuck me! Yes, those are the guys we need, bring back the mercenaries. IDGAF, we need to recruit prisons then. We need big, fast, mean, and don't give a shit about stars and feelings guys.creepycoug said:A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes. -
Minor league baseball games are also good for families. Cheap entertainment.creepycoug said:
This is pretty spot on. The only people who attend minor league baseball games are people who (1) are insane fans and have little else going on their lives, or (2) are serious baseball fans and live in cities without a MLB team. It's a functional league and nobody gaF who wins whatever division. It's a talent farm, hence the name.MikeDamone said:
Exactly. Without the school uni, the players are worth nothing. If people want to argue the players need a bigger cut that argument can be mad, but don’t for a second think it’s the individual players generating the revenue.AtomicDawg said:College football and basketball are minor leagues which creates the problem. Based off of the people involved they don’t want it to be that. But they make so much money off of it it’s only fair to let the players make the money too. The other issue is if you tried to form an independent actual minor league nobody will watch and they don’t make money. The logos actually matter more than the players.
Take the same players from Oregon and Washington, put them on minor league NFL teams from Eugene and Seattle and see how much money they bring in from attendance, TV, and merch. No one would care or watch. We know this because it’s been tried. But with better players than college players.
College football is different precisely because of the school and geographical affiliation. It's why every fan base hates when a local kid leaves to play against the local team. It's emotional and personal.
Some of the same principles apply to the NFL as well. If they players go too far and fuck up the league then they have nowhere to go. We all know there are people who have the physical talent to play at the NFL level who for whatever reason (usually they're fucked up people) aren't doing it. A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes. -
Couldn’t pay me to watch MLB and this is the suggestion?BleachedAnusDawg said:
Minor league baseball games are also good for families. Cheap entertainment.creepycoug said:
This is pretty spot on. The only people who attend minor league baseball games are people who (1) are insane fans and have little else going on their lives, or (2) are serious baseball fans and live in cities without a MLB team. It's a functional league and nobody gaF who wins whatever division. It's a talent farm, hence the name.MikeDamone said:
Exactly. Without the school uni, the players are worth nothing. If people want to argue the players need a bigger cut that argument can be mad, but don’t for a second think it’s the individual players generating the revenue.AtomicDawg said:College football and basketball are minor leagues which creates the problem. Based off of the people involved they don’t want it to be that. But they make so much money off of it it’s only fair to let the players make the money too. The other issue is if you tried to form an independent actual minor league nobody will watch and they don’t make money. The logos actually matter more than the players.
Take the same players from Oregon and Washington, put them on minor league NFL teams from Eugene and Seattle and see how much money they bring in from attendance, TV, and merch. No one would care or watch. We know this because it’s been tried. But with better players than college players.
College football is different precisely because of the school and geographical affiliation. It's why every fan base hates when a local kid leaves to play against the local team. It's emotional and personal.
Some of the same principles apply to the NFL as well. If they players go too far and fuck up the league then they have nowhere to go. We all know there are people who have the physical talent to play at the NFL level who for whatever reason (usually they're fucked up people) aren't doing it. A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes. -
They have bouncy houses, a whiffle ball field, playground, etc for kids at Cheney. Mix in a few innings of the game. Dirt cheap. Great way to burn an afternoon outdoors versus sitting around the house with screaming kids.LawDawg1 said:
Couldn’t pay me to watch MLB and this is the suggestion?BleachedAnusDawg said:
Minor league baseball games are also good for families. Cheap entertainment.creepycoug said:
This is pretty spot on. The only people who attend minor league baseball games are people who (1) are insane fans and have little else going on their lives, or (2) are serious baseball fans and live in cities without a MLB team. It's a functional league and nobody gaF who wins whatever division. It's a talent farm, hence the name.MikeDamone said:
Exactly. Without the school uni, the players are worth nothing. If people want to argue the players need a bigger cut that argument can be mad, but don’t for a second think it’s the individual players generating the revenue.AtomicDawg said:College football and basketball are minor leagues which creates the problem. Based off of the people involved they don’t want it to be that. But they make so much money off of it it’s only fair to let the players make the money too. The other issue is if you tried to form an independent actual minor league nobody will watch and they don’t make money. The logos actually matter more than the players.
Take the same players from Oregon and Washington, put them on minor league NFL teams from Eugene and Seattle and see how much money they bring in from attendance, TV, and merch. No one would care or watch. We know this because it’s been tried. But with better players than college players.
College football is different precisely because of the school and geographical affiliation. It's why every fan base hates when a local kid leaves to play against the local team. It's emotional and personal.
Some of the same principles apply to the NFL as well. If they players go too far and fuck up the league then they have nowhere to go. We all know there are people who have the physical talent to play at the NFL level who for whatever reason (usually they're fucked up people) aren't doing it. A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes. -
But they take the BCC credits all daydigits said:
UW doesn't accept transfer credits from a lot of CCs. Hope the new staff knows that.Alpo said:
UW doesn’t accept transfer credits from Walla Walla. No PE degree here, either. Not gonna happen.dannarc said:
There's a DE at Walla? Well, fuck me! Yes, those are the guys we need, bring back the mercenaries. IDGAF, we need to recruit prisons then. We need big, fast, mean, and don't give a shit about stars and feelings guys.creepycoug said:A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes. -
Crisped.FireCohen said:
But they take the BBCdigits said:
UW doesn't accept transfer credits from a lot of CCs. Hope the new staff knows that.Alpo said:
UW doesn’t accept transfer credits from Walla Walla. No PE degree here, either. Not gonna happen.dannarc said:
There's a DE at Walla? Well, fuck me! Yes, those are the guys we need, bring back the mercenaries. IDGAF, we need to recruit prisons then. We need big, fast, mean, and don't give a shit about stars and feelings guys.creepycoug said:A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes.creditsall day -
yes, the issue is that the unlike MLB and the NBA ~ as a result of self imposed rules, NFL teams can not draft high school or junior high kids at this point... if they could and in fact were mandated by the courts that they had to change their rules to enable this because failing to do so is denying kids their economic rights then the kids would have the choice regarding being a pro player (paid) or an amateur (unpaid college) ~ and as a result, their argument that their restricted paid labor rights were being abridged then goes out the window.
Pro teams would then have developmental team facilities kind of the like the fall league in baseball or the CBA in basketball and college would be again able to "govern" "their" game "legally" ~ whatever that now means.
College conferences should sue the NFL to force them to change their rules regarding prohibiting teams from drafting people based on age and or college eligibility. -
Mother fucking this.TheRoarOfTheCrowd said:yes, the issue is that the unlike MLB and the NBA ~ as a result of self imposed rules, NFL teams can not draft high school or junior high kids at this point... if they could and in fact were mandated by the courts that they had to change their rules to enable this because failing to do so is denying kids their economic rights then the kids would have the choice regarding being a pro player (paid) or an amateur (unpaid college) ~ and as a result, their argument that their restricted paid labor rights were being abridged then goes out the window.
Pro teams would then have developmental team facilities kind of the like the fall league in baseball or the CBA in basketball and college would be again able to "govern" "their" game "legally" ~ whatever that now means.
College conferences should sue the NFL to force them to change their rules regarding prohibiting teams from drafting people based on age and or college eligibility.
I'm so sick and god damned tired about hearing about the economic rights of the kids.
Let 'em turn pro outta HS and play in the NFL farm system.
