The Soccer Mom SUV Thread
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Not the casePurpleThrobber said:
My neighbor works/lives like that four days per week then flies home. Literally sleeps in his Sprinter office.RaceBannon said:The Sprinter office
Fuck that.
A simple 60-80 mile trek around So Cal can take 3-6 hours on the road in the Greater LA area
Being able to work while the driver drives is an incredible efficiency
If I was still all in the game I'd have one -
I hear helicopters are the way to beat the LA traffic.RaceBannon said:
Not the casePurpleThrobber said:
My neighbor works/lives like that four days per week then flies home. Literally sleeps in his Sprinter office.RaceBannon said:The Sprinter office
Fuck that.
A simple 60-80 mile trek around So Cal can take 3-6 hours on the road in the Greater LA area
Being able to work while the driver drives is an incredible efficiency
If I was still all in the game I'd have one -
@KobeBryantDWAG true?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!YellowSnow said:
I hear helicopters are the way to beat the LA traffic.RaceBannon said:
Not the casePurpleThrobber said:
My neighbor works/lives like that four days per week then flies home. Literally sleeps in his Sprinter office.RaceBannon said:The Sprinter office
Fuck that.
A simple 60-80 mile trek around So Cal can take 3-6 hours on the road in the Greater LA area
Being able to work while the driver drives is an incredible efficiency
If I was still all in the game I'd have one -
This guy lives in the 509, flies over to SEA on Monday mornings and lives out of the damned thing until Thursday night. The working it in part is cool - the living in it, not so much.RaceBannon said:
Not the casePurpleThrobber said:
My neighbor works/lives like that four days per week then flies home. Literally sleeps in his Sprinter office.RaceBannon said:The Sprinter office
Fuck that.
A simple 60-80 mile trek around So Cal can take 3-6 hours on the road in the Greater LA area
Being able to work while the driver drives is an incredible efficiency
If I was still all in the game I'd have one
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Counterpoint. US Land Rovers are hot garbage. In part because of all the red tape around selling cars in the US market. Also, because in the US the brand is for people who want the appearance of being rugged without actually going off road. All hat no cattle.Swaye said:
Two points of contention. I do not think a Land Rover is better off road than a Jeep. A Rubicon is still the most capable off road machine per dollar spent you can buy. And is just straight up better than a Defender. And anything else besides a Defender (in the Land Rover catalogue fix for @YellowSnow ) is a mall crawler not an off road machine. Live axles will always beat IFS. Rubicons are geared MUCH better and have much better articulation. Approach and departure angles are a wash. Nothing beats a Rubicon off road for anywhere near the same money. I've rock crawled my entire life and seen everything there is on the trails. 30 years ago yes Defenders and FJs were as good or better. Not now.StLouisDawg said:
Friends I’ve known say land rovers are just plain fucked up engineering. Things like to replace a tire you have to disconnect the taillights and catalytic converter. Look bad ass and better off road than a jeep, but they break easily.
Another friend owned a porche and changing the spark plugs was like 1500 bucks. Had to lower the engine to get to them so some stupid shit.
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-land-rover-defender-vs-2019-jeep-wrangler-rubicon/
Second. There will be no shit talk of Porsche, even if it's true. And to be fair I think Porsche maintenance costs are in line with their overall cost. Sure they are quite a bit higher than Toyota, but these are 150-200K cars, not 30K Camry's. Talk to Ferrari guys about absurd maintenance costs. Want true insanity? Buy a Bugatti Veyron. 21K for an oil change.
https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/watch-how-the-21-000-27-hour-oil-change-is-done-on-a-bugatti-veyron-ar181881.html
Overseas Land Rovers? Fucking bullet proof off road tanks you can fix with bubble gum and a hammer.
Spent A LOT of time off roading in South Africa and Land Rovers were the gold standard bar none and gave me a lot of respect for why they have that reputation.
Nothing like taking a Rover deep into the bush(lulz) and sleeping under the open stars while listening to the Lions and Hyenas battle it out over who gets to eat your face in the dark. -
I've pressed the Rear Differential Lock button twice since I've had my Tacoma. In both cases, I'd have been fucked without it. When you drive around rivers and river bars a lot, there are times when last year's mud puddle becomes this year's mud bog. Last fall I sunk it in a mud hole and had water coming in the doors and shit until the RDL button got pressed, then that fucker shot mud from all 4 corners and plowed right out of there. That cost me a few hours with the shop vac and garden hose.
Don't do that shit with your wife's rig. She'll be pissed.
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Don't tear out in your wife's mud bog?!?dflea said:I've pressed the Rear Differential Lock button twice since I've had my Tacoma. In both cases, I'd have been fucked without it. When you drive around rivers and river bars a lot, there are times when last year's mud puddle becomes this year's mud bog. Last fall I sunk it in a mud hole and had water coming in the doors and shit until the RDL button got pressed, then that fucker shot mud from all 4 corners and plowed right out of there. That cost me a few hours with the shop vac and garden hose.
Don't do that shit with your wife's rig. She'll be pissed.
Hell, i'm lucky to get a handy every couple weeks.
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My first car was an 81' Isuzu Pup with a 2.7 diesel, 4 wheel hi/low, and a front/rear locking dif you had to get out and physically change over.dflea said:I've pressed the Rear Differential Lock button twice since I've had my Tacoma. In both cases, I'd have been fucked without it. When you drive around rivers and river bars a lot, there are times when last year's mud puddle becomes this year's mud bog. Last fall I sunk it in a mud hole and had water coming in the doors and shit until the RDL button got pressed, then that fucker shot mud from all 4 corners and plowed right out of there. That cost me a few hours with the shop vac and garden hose.
Don't do that shit with your wife's rig. She'll be pissed.
That thing was the bog king and I swear to god could have driven up a wall all stock. My 1st gear low red lined at 5mph. Memories of boating it through the mud while larger trucks got stuck back when OC still had farms and open fields everywhere.
My family actually brought it down from Washington and my dad has all kinds of stories of its heroics going up Mt. Baker and over Skykomish. Miss that fucking thing. -
To be fair I never drove Land Rovers overseas. I blew them up.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Counterpoint. US Land Rovers are hot garbage. In part because of all the red tape around selling cars in the US market. Also, because in the US the brand is for people who want the appearance of being rugged without actually going off road. All hat no cattle.Swaye said:
Two points of contention. I do not think a Land Rover is better off road than a Jeep. A Rubicon is still the most capable off road machine per dollar spent you can buy. And is just straight up better than a Defender. And anything else besides a Defender (in the Land Rover catalogue fix for @YellowSnow ) is a mall crawler not an off road machine. Live axles will always beat IFS. Rubicons are geared MUCH better and have much better articulation. Approach and departure angles are a wash. Nothing beats a Rubicon off road for anywhere near the same money. I've rock crawled my entire life and seen everything there is on the trails. 30 years ago yes Defenders and FJs were as good or better. Not now.StLouisDawg said:
Friends I’ve known say land rovers are just plain fucked up engineering. Things like to replace a tire you have to disconnect the taillights and catalytic converter. Look bad ass and better off road than a jeep, but they break easily.
Another friend owned a porche and changing the spark plugs was like 1500 bucks. Had to lower the engine to get to them so some stupid shit.
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-land-rover-defender-vs-2019-jeep-wrangler-rubicon/
Second. There will be no shit talk of Porsche, even if it's true. And to be fair I think Porsche maintenance costs are in line with their overall cost. Sure they are quite a bit higher than Toyota, but these are 150-200K cars, not 30K Camry's. Talk to Ferrari guys about absurd maintenance costs. Want true insanity? Buy a Bugatti Veyron. 21K for an oil change.
https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/watch-how-the-21-000-27-hour-oil-change-is-done-on-a-bugatti-veyron-ar181881.html
Overseas Land Rovers? Fucking bullet proof off road tanks you can fix with bubble gum and a hammer.
Spent A LOT of time off roading in South Africa and Land Rovers were the gold standard bar none and gave me a lot of respect for why they have that reputation.
Nothing like taking a Rover deep into the bush(lulz) and sleeping under the open stars while listening to the Lions and Hyenas battle it out over who gets to eat your face in the dark. -
I always took @PurpleBaze for a hi-lux kind of guy.Swaye said:
To be fair I never drove Land Rovers overseas. I blew them up.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Counterpoint. US Land Rovers are hot garbage. In part because of all the red tape around selling cars in the US market. Also, because in the US the brand is for people who want the appearance of being rugged without actually going off road. All hat no cattle.Swaye said:
Two points of contention. I do not think a Land Rover is better off road than a Jeep. A Rubicon is still the most capable off road machine per dollar spent you can buy. And is just straight up better than a Defender. And anything else besides a Defender (in the Land Rover catalogue fix for @YellowSnow ) is a mall crawler not an off road machine. Live axles will always beat IFS. Rubicons are geared MUCH better and have much better articulation. Approach and departure angles are a wash. Nothing beats a Rubicon off road for anywhere near the same money. I've rock crawled my entire life and seen everything there is on the trails. 30 years ago yes Defenders and FJs were as good or better. Not now.StLouisDawg said:
Friends I’ve known say land rovers are just plain fucked up engineering. Things like to replace a tire you have to disconnect the taillights and catalytic converter. Look bad ass and better off road than a jeep, but they break easily.
Another friend owned a porche and changing the spark plugs was like 1500 bucks. Had to lower the engine to get to them so some stupid shit.
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-land-rover-defender-vs-2019-jeep-wrangler-rubicon/
Second. There will be no shit talk of Porsche, even if it's true. And to be fair I think Porsche maintenance costs are in line with their overall cost. Sure they are quite a bit higher than Toyota, but these are 150-200K cars, not 30K Camry's. Talk to Ferrari guys about absurd maintenance costs. Want true insanity? Buy a Bugatti Veyron. 21K for an oil change.
https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/watch-how-the-21-000-27-hour-oil-change-is-done-on-a-bugatti-veyron-ar181881.html
Overseas Land Rovers? Fucking bullet proof off road tanks you can fix with bubble gum and a hammer.
Spent A LOT of time off roading in South Africa and Land Rovers were the gold standard bar none and gave me a lot of respect for why they have that reputation.
Nothing like taking a Rover deep into the bush(lulz) and sleeping under the open stars while listening to the Lions and Hyenas battle it out over who gets to eat your face in the dark.
