Save the Pac?
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2.) I'm scrolling through my YouTube Short Attention Span Theater feed, and I see that Qatar won their group stage in the Gold Cup. The Gold Cup being a North American soccer tournament. I really started to question my grasp of geography in that moment. What the fuck even IS a conference if UW is playing cross-division rival TAMU? This is no different than other other facet of the economy, as big businesses cannibalize and merge with each other, eating smaller businesses along the way, until the consumer has no choice and is fucked. -
NIL and realignment is a total shit show and is destroying the best sport in America.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Fuck the B1G. Fuck all this realignment.Kingdome_Urinals said:Some sort of defection to the Big is the only solution IMO. The shared history of the conferences and extremely close similarities of university profiles makes it an easy choice.
If the SEC adds Texas and Oklahoma, it renders every other league distinctly inferior (even more so) and combined with NIL will further crater recruiting out West.
Adding UT and Oklahoma was the only thing that would ever save the Pac, now that is out the window.
Rule 1 should be that conferences are required to have contiguous borders. UW having to fly 2,000+ miles for every road game is full retard.
However, at this point how does the UW remain competitive? The Pac is a terrible brand, elite athletes flee the recruiting footprint, and west coast football is on a trajectory to irrelevance.
Bottom line, what USC does will probably heavily influence UW.
UW would never lead a movement to leave the Pac, but if SC and Oregon were going they would have to consider.
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It makes no sense. Texas and OU are in for a really rude awakening.rodmansrage said:
i am mildly surprised that ou is agreeing to this, they have a fucking cakewalk to the playoff each year (they get throttled, but still!) and now you're scheduling bama each season?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The pac 12 sucks because it hasnt dont anything in 5 years in football.
If the pac 12 wins, that is far more important than adding Houston, Okie State, etc
Expansion would fucking suck.
The SEC isnt doing itself any favors. Im not a fan of this move at all. There are too many fucking teams in that conference now, it's ridiculous.
What's going to happen when OU and Texas never sniff success?
The next time realignment happens it will be thr B1G or SEC losing members to form a new conference. Cook it.
ts an ps sent.
The Pac 12 dominates every sport besides football and basketball. Basketball is trending in the right direction.
The Pac 12 has a football problem, everything else is fine.
UW is a big part of that problem. If we had just won 1 of our fucking NY6 games... -
Kliavkoff's job is to retain or expand the Pac-12. He will not be inclined to see major members leave or to enhance UW's national position. Essentially there is nothing he can do to keep up with SEC and B1G.dnc said:
Baylor seems like the most unlikely school in the world to join the Pac outside maybe BYU.RaceBannon said:
If the Pac takes Baylor George has completely reorganized priorities in a very short period of tim. I'd be impressed.
Butt I'm super skeptical.
If I had first choice to pick the best financial, prestige, and competitive situation for UW, it would be being part of 6 Pac teams joining the Big. That would make a 20 team conference.
So much more money in the Big and it's media markets. USC, UCLA, Oregon, UW are obvious choices. The other two maybe Utah, Colorado, AZ schools. -
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PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It makes no sense. Texas and OU are in for a really rude awakening.rodmansrage said:
i am mildly surprised that ou is agreeing to this, they have a fucking cakewalk to the playoff each year (they get throttled, but still!) and now you're scheduling bama each season?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The pac 12 sucks because it hasnt dont anything in 5 years in football.
If the pac 12 wins, that is far more important than adding Houston, Okie State, etc
Expansion would fucking suck.
The SEC isnt doing itself any favors. Im not a fan of this move at all. There are too many fucking teams in that conference now, it's ridiculous.
What's going to happen when OU and Texas never sniff success?
The next time realignment happens it will be thr B1G or SEC losing members to form a new conference. Cook it.
ts an ps sent.
The Pac 12 dominates every sport besides football and basketball. Basketball is trending in the right direction.
The Pac 12 has a football problem, everything else is fine.
UW is a big part of that problem. If we had just won 1 of our fucking NY6 games...
1. This is about money. Sec is going to pay out even more now.
2. This is going to divide d1 into a higher division eventually. Multiple teams every year from the SEC will battle it out and get I to whatever playoff snd make a ton of money. Better to be with the haves than the have nots. I would guess this ends in 3 super conferences. Maybe 4, but they don’t need a fourth.
3. Again this is about money. Until leaving the haves makes you more money nobody can hear anything else.
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AtomicDawg said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It makes no sense. Texas and OU are in for a really rude awakening.rodmansrage said:
i am mildly surprised that ou is agreeing to this, they have a fucking cakewalk to the playoff each year (they get throttled, but still!) and now you're scheduling bama each season?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The pac 12 sucks because it hasnt dont anything in 5 years in football.
If the pac 12 wins, that is far more important than adding Houston, Okie State, etc
Expansion would fucking suck.
The SEC isnt doing itself any favors. Im not a fan of this move at all. There are too many fucking teams in that conference now, it's ridiculous.
What's going to happen when OU and Texas never sniff success?
The next time realignment happens it will be thr B1G or SEC losing members to form a new conference. Cook it.
ts an ps sent.
The Pac 12 dominates every sport besides football and basketball. Basketball is trending in the right direction.
The Pac 12 has a football problem, everything else is fine.
UW is a big part of that problem. If we had just won 1 of our fucking NY6 games...
1. This is about money. Sec is going to pay out even more now.
2. This is going to divide d1 into a higher division eventually. Multiple teams every year from the SEC will battle it out and get I to whatever playoff snd make a ton of money. Better to be with the haves than the have nots. I would guess this ends in 3 super conferences. Maybe 4, but they don’t need a fourth.
3. Again this is about money. Until leaving the haves makes you more money nobody can hear anything else.
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B1G schools each got 70 million in TV money last year.AtomicDawg said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It makes no sense. Texas and OU are in for a really rude awakening.rodmansrage said:
i am mildly surprised that ou is agreeing to this, they have a fucking cakewalk to the playoff each year (they get throttled, but still!) and now you're scheduling bama each season?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The pac 12 sucks because it hasnt dont anything in 5 years in football.
If the pac 12 wins, that is far more important than adding Houston, Okie State, etc
Expansion would fucking suck.
The SEC isnt doing itself any favors. Im not a fan of this move at all. There are too many fucking teams in that conference now, it's ridiculous.
What's going to happen when OU and Texas never sniff success?
The next time realignment happens it will be thr B1G or SEC losing members to form a new conference. Cook it.
ts an ps sent.
The Pac 12 dominates every sport besides football and basketball. Basketball is trending in the right direction.
The Pac 12 has a football problem, everything else is fine.
UW is a big part of that problem. If we had just won 1 of our fucking NY6 games...
1. This is about money. Sec is going to pay out even more now.
2. This is going to divide d1 into a higher division eventually. Multiple teams every year from the SEC will battle it out and get I to whatever playoff snd make a ton of money. Better to be with the haves than the have nots. I would guess this ends in 3 super conferences. Maybe 4, but they don’t need a fourth.
3. Again this is about money. Until leaving the haves makes you more money nobody can hear anything else.
Pac schools got like 40 mill?
Due to Jimmy and Jen and the stupid Pac, UW recruiting and program infrastructure is already weak.
If TV is throwing huge amounts to the SEC and B1G what is left for the Pac and UW? I don't see Kliavkoff as making a big difference here.
Fuck this life. -
The Pac-12PostGameOrangeSlices said:The pac 12 is perfect the way it is.
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I agree that dilution by the addition of scraps isn’t the way to go. It’s also important to remember WHY the Pac-12 hasn’t done anything. I have a two pronged hypothesis.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The pac 12 sucks because it hasnt dont anything in 5 years in football.RaceBannon said:
And this is why the Pac 12 and UW suckPostGameOrangeSlices said:The pac 12 is perfect the way it is. We dont need big 12 afterthoughts diluting the conference.
The remnants of the big 12 should pick up boise and byu, maybe Houston and Cincinnati. Would be fine
NYBE kid
It isn't fine how it is. They fucked it up last time. Fuck it up this time and its over
I'd love to keep it the same. I'd love to go back to 8 teams. But that ship sailed
1. Not caring enough.
2. Not having it just mean more revenue.
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Some are having trouble grasping this.MikeDamone said:AtomicDawg said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It makes no sense. Texas and OU are in for a really rude awakening.rodmansrage said:
i am mildly surprised that ou is agreeing to this, they have a fucking cakewalk to the playoff each year (they get throttled, but still!) and now you're scheduling bama each season?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The pac 12 sucks because it hasnt dont anything in 5 years in football.
If the pac 12 wins, that is far more important than adding Houston, Okie State, etc
Expansion would fucking suck.
The SEC isnt doing itself any favors. Im not a fan of this move at all. There are too many fucking teams in that conference now, it's ridiculous.
What's going to happen when OU and Texas never sniff success?
The next time realignment happens it will be thr B1G or SEC losing members to form a new conference. Cook it.
ts an ps sent.
The Pac 12 dominates every sport besides football and basketball. Basketball is trending in the right direction.
The Pac 12 has a football problem, everything else is fine.
UW is a big part of that problem. If we had just won 1 of our fucking NY6 games...
1. This is about money. Sec is going to pay out even more now.
2. This is going to divide d1 into a higher division eventually. Multiple teams every year from the SEC will battle it out and get I to whatever playoff snd make a ton of money. Better to be with the haves than the have nots. I would guess this ends in 3 super conferences. Maybe 4, but they don’t need a fourth.
3. Again this is about money. Until leaving the haves makes you more money nobody can hear anything else.
