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Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties? -
To me it doesn't matter who you voted for in 2020. Trump made my taxes go up, bigly.RaceBannon said:Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties?
Taxes are fucked up in this country. The middle gets squeezed while those on the high end of the spectrum don't pay their fair share. Corporations included.
One of the most successful people I know said he's happy to pay more in taxes. It just means he's been more successful and he is motivated to make more $. -
Top 50% of income earners pay 97% of income taxes.BennyBeaver said:
To me it doesn't matter who you voted for in 2020. Trump made my taxes go up, bigly.RaceBannon said:Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties?
Taxes are fucked up in this country. The middle gets squeezed while those on the high end of the spectrum don't pay their fair share. Corporations included.
One of the most successful people I know said he's happy to pay more in taxes. It just means he's been more successful and he is motivated to make more $.
Your friend is happy to give more of his income to the gov't? That's what motivates him to earn more...that more of it can go to the gov't? -
Take it to the tugBennyBeaver said:
To me it doesn't matter who you voted for in 2020. Trump made my taxes go up, bigly.RaceBannon said:Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties?
Taxes are fucked up in this country. The middle gets squeezed while those on the high end of the spectrum don't pay their fair share. Corporations included.
One of the most successful people I know said he's happy to pay more in taxes. It just means he's been more successful and he is motivated to make more $.
I got a big tax cut because I am in the middle
So your in favor?
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I got a big tax increase because I'm in the middle. Which middle are you in?RaceBannon said:
Take it to the tugBennyBeaver said:
To me it doesn't matter who you voted for in 2020. Trump made my taxes go up, bigly.RaceBannon said:Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties?
Taxes are fucked up in this country. The middle gets squeezed while those on the high end of the spectrum don't pay their fair share. Corporations included.
One of the most successful people I know said he's happy to pay more in taxes. It just means he's been more successful and he is motivated to make more $.
I got a big tax cut because I am in the middle
So your in favor? -
BennyBeaver said:
I got a big tax increase because I'm in the middle. Which middle are you in?RaceBannon said:
Take it to the tugBennyBeaver said:
To me it doesn't matter who you voted for in 2020. Trump made my taxes go up, bigly.RaceBannon said:Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties?
Taxes are fucked up in this country. The middle gets squeezed while those on the high end of the spectrum don't pay their fair share. Corporations included.
One of the most successful people I know said he's happy to pay more in taxes. It just means he's been more successful and he is motivated to make more $.
I got a big tax cut because I am in the middle
So your in favor?
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You nerds and your Seinfeld references.DerekJohnson said:BennyBeaver said:
I got a big tax increase because I'm in the middle. Which middle are you in?RaceBannon said:
Take it to the tugBennyBeaver said:
To me it doesn't matter who you voted for in 2020. Trump made my taxes go up, bigly.RaceBannon said:Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties?
Taxes are fucked up in this country. The middle gets squeezed while those on the high end of the spectrum don't pay their fair share. Corporations included.
One of the most successful people I know said he's happy to pay more in taxes. It just means he's been more successful and he is motivated to make more $.
I got a big tax cut because I am in the middle
So your in favor? -
Why not try to stay on subject hereBennyBeaver said:
I got a big tax increase because I'm in the middle. Which middle are you in?RaceBannon said:
Take it to the tugBennyBeaver said:
To me it doesn't matter who you voted for in 2020. Trump made my taxes go up, bigly.RaceBannon said:Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties?
Taxes are fucked up in this country. The middle gets squeezed while those on the high end of the spectrum don't pay their fair share. Corporations included.
One of the most successful people I know said he's happy to pay more in taxes. It just means he's been more successful and he is motivated to make more $.
I got a big tax cut because I am in the middle
So your in favor?
43% capital gains tax. Pro or con
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It will likely kill the market this year, as the wealthy will pull out as much money as they can so they can enjoy 20% rates on capital gains this year. After the sell off, things will slowly increase again, but there will not be a huge rally by any means, until they get a new president in office.
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I'm in the middle and taxes went down bigly for me under Trump. Not sure wtf you are talking about.BennyBeaver said:
I got a big tax increase because I'm in the middle. Which middle are you in?RaceBannon said:
Take it to the tugBennyBeaver said:
To me it doesn't matter who you voted for in 2020. Trump made my taxes go up, bigly.RaceBannon said:Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties?
Taxes are fucked up in this country. The middle gets squeezed while those on the high end of the spectrum don't pay their fair share. Corporations included.
One of the most successful people I know said he's happy to pay more in taxes. It just means he's been more successful and he is motivated to make more $.
I got a big tax cut because I am in the middle
So your in favor? -
This is true and out business did great tooBleachedAnusDawg said:
I'm in the middle and taxes went down bigly for me under Trump. Not sure wtf you are talking about.BennyBeaver said:
I got a big tax increase because I'm in the middle. Which middle are you in?RaceBannon said:
Take it to the tugBennyBeaver said:
To me it doesn't matter who you voted for in 2020. Trump made my taxes go up, bigly.RaceBannon said:Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties?
Taxes are fucked up in this country. The middle gets squeezed while those on the high end of the spectrum don't pay their fair share. Corporations included.
One of the most successful people I know said he's happy to pay more in taxes. It just means he's been more successful and he is motivated to make more $.
I got a big tax cut because I am in the middle
So your in favor?
Then Newsom killed it but still I endeavor to persevere
I guess Benny doesn't want to talk about capital gains -
It’s over the first million in gains. Absolutely proRaceBannon said:
Why not try to stay on subject hereBennyBeaver said:
I got a big tax increase because I'm in the middle. Which middle are you in?RaceBannon said:
Take it to the tugBennyBeaver said:
To me it doesn't matter who you voted for in 2020. Trump made my taxes go up, bigly.RaceBannon said:Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties?
Taxes are fucked up in this country. The middle gets squeezed while those on the high end of the spectrum don't pay their fair share. Corporations included.
One of the most successful people I know said he's happy to pay more in taxes. It just means he's been more successful and he is motivated to make more $.
I got a big tax cut because I am in the middle
So your in favor?
43% capital gains tax. Pro or con -
Back to green today. There are some absolute amateurs on heregreenblood said:It will likely kill the market this year, as the wealthy will pull out as much money as they can so they can enjoy 20% rates on capital gains this year. After the sell off, things will slowly increase again, but there will not be a huge rally by any means, until they get a new president in office.
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Con: 33% maxRaceBannon said:
Why not try to stay on subject hereBennyBeaver said:
I got a big tax increase because I'm in the middle. Which middle are you in?RaceBannon said:
Take it to the tugBennyBeaver said:
To me it doesn't matter who you voted for in 2020. Trump made my taxes go up, bigly.RaceBannon said:Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties?
Taxes are fucked up in this country. The middle gets squeezed while those on the high end of the spectrum don't pay their fair share. Corporations included.
One of the most successful people I know said he's happy to pay more in taxes. It just means he's been more successful and he is motivated to make more $.
I got a big tax cut because I am in the middle
So your in favor?
43% capital gains tax. Pro or con
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There must be multiple "middles."BleachedAnusDawg said:
I'm in the middle and taxes went down bigly for me under Trump. Not sure wtf you are talking about.BennyBeaver said:
I got a big tax increase because I'm in the middle. Which middle are you in?RaceBannon said:
Take it to the tugBennyBeaver said:
To me it doesn't matter who you voted for in 2020. Trump made my taxes go up, bigly.RaceBannon said:Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties?
Taxes are fucked up in this country. The middle gets squeezed while those on the high end of the spectrum don't pay their fair share. Corporations included.
One of the most successful people I know said he's happy to pay more in taxes. It just means he's been more successful and he is motivated to make more $.
I got a big tax cut because I am in the middle
So your in favor? -
Or you don't know what you're talking about, or you are not actually "middle."BennyBeaver said:
There must be multiple "middles."BleachedAnusDawg said:
I'm in the middle and taxes went down bigly for me under Trump. Not sure wtf you are talking about.BennyBeaver said:
I got a big tax increase because I'm in the middle. Which middle are you in?RaceBannon said:
Take it to the tugBennyBeaver said:
To me it doesn't matter who you voted for in 2020. Trump made my taxes go up, bigly.RaceBannon said:Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties?
Taxes are fucked up in this country. The middle gets squeezed while those on the high end of the spectrum don't pay their fair share. Corporations included.
One of the most successful people I know said he's happy to pay more in taxes. It just means he's been more successful and he is motivated to make more $.
I got a big tax cut because I am in the middle
So your in favor? -
I'd max at 25% myself
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Also the actual proposal is 39% to match the top income rate but there is some 4% surcharge thing going on that makes it 43%
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Fortunately, I expect Biden to actually die before this will see the light of day.RaceBannon said:Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties?
Substitute "hope" for "expect" if you must.
It is a TERRIBLE idea. One of the many reasons I didn't vote for him. -
One of THE best Seinfeld scenes ever. I lolz whenever I see it.DerekJohnson said:BennyBeaver said:
I got a big tax increase because I'm in the middle. Which middle are you in?RaceBannon said:
Take it to the tugBennyBeaver said:
To me it doesn't matter who you voted for in 2020. Trump made my taxes go up, bigly.RaceBannon said:Since this is the classy board would like to hear from Biden voters on the merits of this pro or con without a bunch of noise
This always comes up but rarely gets anywhere. One of the good? things about billionaires funding both parties?
Taxes are fucked up in this country. The middle gets squeezed while those on the high end of the spectrum don't pay their fair share. Corporations included.
One of the most successful people I know said he's happy to pay more in taxes. It just means he's been more successful and he is motivated to make more $.
I got a big tax cut because I am in the middle
So your in favor?
I think the rest of it goes:
Kramer: well, they do, and they're the ones writing it off. -
Not going to happen
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Capital is taxed too low relative to labor and too low if you think increasing inequality of wealth is a problem. It has been that way for decades.
I don't really think the proposal is doing anything but putting the subject of raising the rates on the table. Capital gains aren't going to go to 43%. It wouldn't be fatal to investing or the economy if they did, but it's not happening. No one has proposed a confiscatory tax rate on gains.
If a rate increase is made, there will be a rush to get sales in under the wire and transactions will then slow for a period of months after the change takes effect. That slowing will be short lived. People will invest if the rate is 15%. They'll invest if it's 43%. And they'll invest everywhere in between. -
Last time I checked it hasn't passed the "I want to do this" stage. So no, this drop was purely on the news. But if it gets traction, you bet your ass the markets will tank. Hopefully, somebody is advising this moron, and told him that one little comment dropped the DOW 400 points, and that maybe he should reconsider his position.ntxduck said:
Back to green today. There are some absolute amateurs on heregreenblood said:It will likely kill the market this year, as the wealthy will pull out as much money as they can so they can enjoy 20% rates on capital gains this year. After the sell off, things will slowly increase again, but there will not be a huge rally by any means, until they get a new president in office.
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I'm hearing that the stock market is not the economy.greenblood said:
Last time I checked it hasn't passed the "I want to do this" stage. So no, this drop was purely on the news. But if it gets traction, you bet your ass the markets will tank. Hopefully, somebody is advising this moron, and told him that one little comment dropped the DOW 400 points, and that maybe he should reconsider his position.ntxduck said:
Back to green today. There are some absolute amateurs on heregreenblood said:It will likely kill the market this year, as the wealthy will pull out as much money as they can so they can enjoy 20% rates on capital gains this year. After the sell off, things will slowly increase again, but there will not be a huge rally by any means, until they get a new president in office.
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Lol. You have no grasp of algorithmic trading and how it works.greenblood said:
Last time I checked it hasn't passed the "I want to do this" stage. So no, this drop was purely on the news. But if it gets traction, you bet your ass the markets will tank. Hopefully, somebody is advising this moron, and told him that one little comment dropped the DOW 400 points, and that maybe he should reconsider his position.ntxduck said:
Back to green today. There are some absolute amateurs on heregreenblood said:It will likely kill the market this year, as the wealthy will pull out as much money as they can so they can enjoy 20% rates on capital gains this year. After the sell off, things will slowly increase again, but there will not be a huge rally by any means, until they get a new president in office.
Was a cool board. Too bad poors had to come shit all over the place with their cult nonsense -
You hear right.BennyBeaver said:
I'm hearing that the stock market is not the economy.greenblood said:
Last time I checked it hasn't passed the "I want to do this" stage. So no, this drop was purely on the news. But if it gets traction, you bet your ass the markets will tank. Hopefully, somebody is advising this moron, and told him that one little comment dropped the DOW 400 points, and that maybe he should reconsider his position.ntxduck said:
Back to green today. There are some absolute amateurs on heregreenblood said:It will likely kill the market this year, as the wealthy will pull out as much money as they can so they can enjoy 20% rates on capital gains this year. After the sell off, things will slowly increase again, but there will not be a huge rally by any means, until they get a new president in office.
But the capital gains tax isn't the economy. It's the cost of doing bidness in the market meng. Pay attention and please put on your blazer. You're in the Club damnit! -
Hey now.ntxduck said:
Lol. You have no grasp of algorithmic trading and how it works.greenblood said:
Last time I checked it hasn't passed the "I want to do this" stage. So no, this drop was purely on the news. But if it gets traction, you bet your ass the markets will tank. Hopefully, somebody is advising this moron, and told him that one little comment dropped the DOW 400 points, and that maybe he should reconsider his position.ntxduck said:
Back to green today. There are some absolute amateurs on heregreenblood said:It will likely kill the market this year, as the wealthy will pull out as much money as they can so they can enjoy 20% rates on capital gains this year. After the sell off, things will slowly increase again, but there will not be a huge rally by any means, until they get a new president in office.
Was a cool board. Too bad poors had to come shit all over the place with their cult nonsense -
Algorithmic trading is a fancy phrase for saying "Buy the dip, dumbass"ntxduck said:
Lol. You have no grasp of algorithmic trading and how it works.greenblood said:
Last time I checked it hasn't passed the "I want to do this" stage. So no, this drop was purely on the news. But if it gets traction, you bet your ass the markets will tank. Hopefully, somebody is advising this moron, and told him that one little comment dropped the DOW 400 points, and that maybe he should reconsider his position.ntxduck said:
Back to green today. There are some absolute amateurs on heregreenblood said:It will likely kill the market this year, as the wealthy will pull out as much money as they can so they can enjoy 20% rates on capital gains this year. After the sell off, things will slowly increase again, but there will not be a huge rally by any means, until they get a new president in office.
Was a cool board. Too bad poors had to come shit all over the place with their cult nonsense -
This is a high price to pay for the attractive liquidity that the equity markets offer, and this proposal materially changes the risk reward relationship for owning securities in a profound way. What this means is that wealthy people will shift their focus to longer cycle assets and income producing assets over time because after tax is the bottom line. Its a terribly short sighted proposal because it will create a liquidity crash, especially in the tech industries and high growth asset markets. This proposal will mean that wealthy individuals will restructure personal assets into corporate assets to create a series of entities that collectively have a lower net tax rate. Fking Dumb.
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I think it would not be helpful to real estate investment that is holding up the house of cards either.