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New Poll Shows Almost HALF Of Women Want To Stay HOME, Not Work

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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Making a rare appearance in the Tug to say:

    1. This belongs on the Finance board. I'll reprise it in slightly shinier wrapping at a later date.

    2. My wife stayed home. Can't say if they were better for that reason, or by reason of their superior swarthy genetics (Charles Murray's opinions notwithstanding). I will say this: I have three girls, and they are fucking educated and I have advised them to (1) have a career and (2) live near their mother.

    I'll amplify my rationale for #2. First, nobody will take care of those babies better than my wife, and it will be free, and it will free me to go fuck around and do whatever I want because my wife will be blissfully unaware and give no fucks about what I am doing. Second, the odds of marrying an asshole or loser can be greatly reduced based on where you meet him. Both of my girls in serious relationships (one of them is married) met Mr. Wonderful in college. Good. Slightly better odds than in HS or a fucking bar. The third one is dating a guy she met in grad school. Even better. But even with superior breeding and social engineering, there are still decent odds you are going to marry the wrong person. People change, and frankly, nobody really knows anybody until they've seen them react in the trenches.

    The problem with this little trip down reactionary lane with you well-intentioned gentlemen is this: the world in which women stayed home was also a world in which they had little power and influence and were beholden to the men in their lives for the basics of food and shelter, much less a "good life." Next to zero autonomy. Creep's kids will be self-sufficient well into the financial zone of wealth building where Eddie Murphy's "Half!!!!!!!" actually means something.

    But if you want to raise your daughters with that vulnerability, like the Mormons do, go right ahead. We? won't protest.

    So your wife stayed home but its a trip down reactionary lane for others to point out the benefits of it

    That weak shit don't fly here
    It's heavy shit Boomer. It is, in fact, a trip down reactionary lane because it is a trip down reactionary lane. That it is what it is is not something for which to take issue with me. It's not my trip; I didn't book it.*

    I'm just pointing out the downside. A guy your age ought to have piles of anecdotes of women you knew who had to slug it out in a miserable existence at home because it turns out dropping out of the work force for 20 years makes it kinda hard to be on your own economically. You see, I love my kids.

    As to the merits, I hear ya. Mrs. Creep stayed home and my kids are damn near perfect. But the next generation of Creepy Super Zips are going to be even more better off. Grandma Creepy will watch the kids during the day, read them Shakespeare and play classical music all day, and when he feels like it, Grampa Creepy will teach them to golf. AND, my daughters will always be in a position to tell their husbands to go fuck off if they ever get fat and/or lazy and/or otherwise not meet our high standards.

    *This is why the Finance board would do better with this. We? don't take things so personally. You guys get hysterical any time Kobe the Lib posts anything.

    This is hate speech.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,293
    edited March 2021

    @creepycoug you got issues at your joint. Got some trash accumulating over there

    My people are watching it. Not to worry.

    I thought I'd come over and say hi and see how things are going. Looks like you guys found your new punching bag.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,638 Standard Supporter

    thechatch said:

    thechatch said:

    Here’s the thing that shit-ass millennials and Gen Zers need to get through their heads.

    When you’re young, you’re poor and you’re expected to work your ass off in order to succeed and eventually provide for a family. Not everyone makes it. Not everyone is talented, or organized, or driven, or intelligent enough to reach the kinds of success that capitalism and the American way of life can produce.

    That said, the opportunity exists, and instead of whining and bitching like little children over free healthcare and debt forgiveness, it would benefit everyone if these people in TKS’ demo would simply shut the fuck up, pick up a lunch box, and go out and try to do something besides waxing philosophical on Twitter for a change.

    We all had to do it. There’s no fucking earthly reason why you shouldn’t, at our expense. Every generation in the history of the American experience has had to have the come to Jesus talk from those prior, but it seems very apparent you’ve taken the intellectually dishonest pandering by leftist media too seriously, and, instead of that sentinel talk from your parents leading toward work ethic, innovation, and new industry, it’s led to “Ok, Boomer” while you hold up your selfie stick for the Instagram post that you hope leads toward a “career” as an influencer or whatever.

    So, fuck your debt forgiveness and your free healthcare, and your universal basic income, and your green new deal. Go get a job and do some fucking work. We are wholly uninterested in sacrificing decades of labor and sacrifice so that you don’t have to pay off your degrees in sociology or art history.

    HTH

    I’m sure that felt really good to write but facts don’t care about your feelings.

    Millennials have 5% of the wealth in this country, at the same point boomers had 21%. We did not all go through this. But yeah man it’s about selfie sticks and avocado toast. We are wholly uninterested in taking advice from two generations that were handed great economy’s and ran them into the ground.
    Yet here you are with your hand out like a 6 year old, crying gimme gimme gimme. How old are you? Where did you go to school again? What degree program? What do you do for work?

    Why can’t you get your own health insurance? Why do you need someone else to pay your student loans? Why do you need the government to provide you with an income?

    We never asked for any of that shit. What makes you so fucking special?
    Medicare For All and cancelling student debt will not benefit me at all. My choice to support those policies is based on what will most benefit the people and economy of this country, both in the short term and the long term.

    You didn’t ask for any of that shit because you didn’t have to.
    How will paying for free shit for everyone benefit the economy? Lay that one out for me Einstein?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,639 Founders Club

    Making a rare appearance in the Tug to say:

    1. This belongs on the Finance board. I'll reprise it in slightly shinier wrapping at a later date.

    2. My wife stayed home. Can't say if they were better for that reason, or by reason of their superior swarthy genetics (Charles Murray's opinions notwithstanding). I will say this: I have three girls, and they are fucking educated and I have advised them to (1) have a career and (2) live near their mother.

    I'll amplify my rationale for #2. First, nobody will take care of those babies better than my wife, and it will be free, and it will free me to go fuck around and do whatever I want because my wife will be blissfully unaware and give no fucks about what I am doing. Second, the odds of marrying an asshole or loser can be greatly reduced based on where you meet him. Both of my girls in serious relationships (one of them is married) met Mr. Wonderful in college. Good. Slightly better odds than in HS or a fucking bar. The third one is dating a guy she met in grad school. Even better. But even with superior breeding and social engineering, there are still decent odds you are going to marry the wrong person. People change, and frankly, nobody really knows anybody until they've seen them react in the trenches.

    The problem with this little trip down reactionary lane with you well-intentioned gentlemen is this: the world in which women stayed home was also a world in which they had little power and influence and were beholden to the men in their lives for the basics of food and shelter, much less a "good life." Next to zero autonomy. Creep's kids will be self-sufficient well into the financial zone of wealth building where Eddie Murphy's "Half!!!!!!!" actually means something.

    But if you want to raise your daughters with that vulnerability, like the Mormons do, go right ahead. We? won't protest.

    So your wife stayed home but its a trip down reactionary lane for others to point out the benefits of it

    That weak shit don't fly here
    It's heavy shit Boomer. It is, in fact, a trip down reactionary lane because it is a trip down reactionary lane. That it is what it is is not something for which to take issue with me. It's not my trip; I didn't book it.*

    I'm just pointing out the downside. A guy your age ought to have piles of anecdotes of women you knew who had to slug it out in a miserable existence at home because it turns out dropping out of the work force for 20 years makes it kinda hard to be on your own economically. You see, I love my kids.

    As to the merits, I hear ya. Mrs. Creep stayed home and my kids are damn near perfect. But the next generation of Creepy Super Zips are going to be even more better off. Grandma Creepy will watch the kids during the day, read them Shakespeare and play classical music all day, and when he feels like it, Grampa Creepy will teach them to golf. AND, my daughters will always be in a position to tell their husbands to go fuck off if they ever get fat and/or lazy and/or otherwise not meet our high standards.

    *This is why the Finance board would do better with this. We? don't take things so personally. You guys get hysterical any time Kobe the Lib posts anything.

    Your motives are pure but others aren't post of the day. If your wife had worked your post would make sense but she stayed home. My wife worked and you're accusing me of what you did. That shit don't fly here. You need a board where no one can question anything because "take it to the tug" if you do.

    My mom wanted to go back to work as we got ready to LEAVE the house and my dad divorced her because of it. And I saw first hand how the credit rating went to the guy who worked all those years and she was treated like a teenager. I saw her attorney, the judge and my dad's attorney play golf with my dad many times. I saw how that worked out in the settlement.

    Don't tell me anything boy. I was there.

    All I said was if its good enough for you its good enough for anyone else here and being reactionary has nothing to do with it
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,293

    thechatch said:

    thechatch said:

    Here’s the thing that shit-ass millennials and Gen Zers need to get through their heads.

    When you’re young, you’re poor and you’re expected to work your ass off in order to succeed and eventually provide for a family. Not everyone makes it. Not everyone is talented, or organized, or driven, or intelligent enough to reach the kinds of success that capitalism and the American way of life can produce.

    That said, the opportunity exists, and instead of whining and bitching like little children over free healthcare and debt forgiveness, it would benefit everyone if these people in TKS’ demo would simply shut the fuck up, pick up a lunch box, and go out and try to do something besides waxing philosophical on Twitter for a change.

    We all had to do it. There’s no fucking earthly reason why you shouldn’t, at our expense. Every generation in the history of the American experience has had to have the come to Jesus talk from those prior, but it seems very apparent you’ve taken the intellectually dishonest pandering by leftist media too seriously, and, instead of that sentinel talk from your parents leading toward work ethic, innovation, and new industry, it’s led to “Ok, Boomer” while you hold up your selfie stick for the Instagram post that you hope leads toward a “career” as an influencer or whatever.

    So, fuck your debt forgiveness and your free healthcare, and your universal basic income, and your green new deal. Go get a job and do some fucking work. We are wholly uninterested in sacrificing decades of labor and sacrifice so that you don’t have to pay off your degrees in sociology or art history.

    HTH

    I’m sure that felt really good to write but facts don’t care about your feelings.

    Millennials have 5% of the wealth in this country, at the same point boomers had 21%. We did not all go through this. But yeah man it’s about selfie sticks and avocado toast. We are wholly uninterested in taking advice from two generations that were handed great economy’s and ran them into the ground.
    Yet here you are with your hand out like a 6 year old, crying gimme gimme gimme. How old are you? Where did you go to school again? What degree program? What do you do for work?

    Why can’t you get your own health insurance? Why do you need someone else to pay your student loans? Why do you need the government to provide you with an income?

    We never asked for any of that shit. What makes you so fucking special?
    Medicare For All and cancelling student debt will not benefit me at all. My choice to support those policies is based on what will most benefit the people and economy of this country, both in the short term and the long term.

    You didn’t ask for any of that shit because you didn’t have to.
    Most people I know, even here, even Race, want a healthcare system that will work and this is reasonably affordable. "Work" is the operative word. It's just proven to be a difficult nut to solve.

    Student loans is easy ... (1) Do NOT forgive them; and (2) get the government out of the student loan business.

    I'll pick this up on the Finance board. Feel free to stop by and hang out for a while. They'll be begging you to come back here inside of a week.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,639 Founders Club
    The more healthcare gets fixed the worse it gets

    But let's believe them this time
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,293

    Making a rare appearance in the Tug to say:

    1. This belongs on the Finance board. I'll reprise it in slightly shinier wrapping at a later date.

    2. My wife stayed home. Can't say if they were better for that reason, or by reason of their superior swarthy genetics (Charles Murray's opinions notwithstanding). I will say this: I have three girls, and they are fucking educated and I have advised them to (1) have a career and (2) live near their mother.

    I'll amplify my rationale for #2. First, nobody will take care of those babies better than my wife, and it will be free, and it will free me to go fuck around and do whatever I want because my wife will be blissfully unaware and give no fucks about what I am doing. Second, the odds of marrying an asshole or loser can be greatly reduced based on where you meet him. Both of my girls in serious relationships (one of them is married) met Mr. Wonderful in college. Good. Slightly better odds than in HS or a fucking bar. The third one is dating a guy she met in grad school. Even better. But even with superior breeding and social engineering, there are still decent odds you are going to marry the wrong person. People change, and frankly, nobody really knows anybody until they've seen them react in the trenches.

    The problem with this little trip down reactionary lane with you well-intentioned gentlemen is this: the world in which women stayed home was also a world in which they had little power and influence and were beholden to the men in their lives for the basics of food and shelter, much less a "good life." Next to zero autonomy. Creep's kids will be self-sufficient well into the financial zone of wealth building where Eddie Murphy's "Half!!!!!!!" actually means something.

    But if you want to raise your daughters with that vulnerability, like the Mormons do, go right ahead. We? won't protest.

    So your wife stayed home but its a trip down reactionary lane for others to point out the benefits of it

    That weak shit don't fly here
    It's heavy shit Boomer. It is, in fact, a trip down reactionary lane because it is a trip down reactionary lane. That it is what it is is not something for which to take issue with me. It's not my trip; I didn't book it.*

    I'm just pointing out the downside. A guy your age ought to have piles of anecdotes of women you knew who had to slug it out in a miserable existence at home because it turns out dropping out of the work force for 20 years makes it kinda hard to be on your own economically. You see, I love my kids.

    As to the merits, I hear ya. Mrs. Creep stayed home and my kids are damn near perfect. But the next generation of Creepy Super Zips are going to be even more better off. Grandma Creepy will watch the kids during the day, read them Shakespeare and play classical music all day, and when he feels like it, Grampa Creepy will teach them to golf. AND, my daughters will always be in a position to tell their husbands to go fuck off if they ever get fat and/or lazy and/or otherwise not meet our high standards.

    *This is why the Finance board would do better with this. We? don't take things so personally. You guys get hysterical any time Kobe the Lib posts anything.

    This is hate speech.
    It is? Set me straight.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    edited March 2021

    thechatch said:

    thechatch said:

    Here’s the thing that shit-ass millennials and Gen Zers need to get through their heads.

    When you’re young, you’re poor and you’re expected to work your ass off in order to succeed and eventually provide for a family. Not everyone makes it. Not everyone is talented, or organized, or driven, or intelligent enough to reach the kinds of success that capitalism and the American way of life can produce.

    That said, the opportunity exists, and instead of whining and bitching like little children over free healthcare and debt forgiveness, it would benefit everyone if these people in TKS’ demo would simply shut the fuck up, pick up a lunch box, and go out and try to do something besides waxing philosophical on Twitter for a change.

    We all had to do it. There’s no fucking earthly reason why you shouldn’t, at our expense. Every generation in the history of the American experience has had to have the come to Jesus talk from those prior, but it seems very apparent you’ve taken the intellectually dishonest pandering by leftist media too seriously, and, instead of that sentinel talk from your parents leading toward work ethic, innovation, and new industry, it’s led to “Ok, Boomer” while you hold up your selfie stick for the Instagram post that you hope leads toward a “career” as an influencer or whatever.

    So, fuck your debt forgiveness and your free healthcare, and your universal basic income, and your green new deal. Go get a job and do some fucking work. We are wholly uninterested in sacrificing decades of labor and sacrifice so that you don’t have to pay off your degrees in sociology or art history.

    HTH

    I’m sure that felt really good to write but facts don’t care about your feelings.

    Millennials have 5% of the wealth in this country, at the same point boomers had 21%. We did not all go through this. But yeah man it’s about selfie sticks and avocado toast. We are wholly uninterested in taking advice from two generations that were handed great economy’s and ran them into the ground.
    Yet here you are with your hand out like a 6 year old, crying gimme gimme gimme. How old are you? Where did you go to school again? What degree program? What do you do for work?

    Why can’t you get your own health insurance? Why do you need someone else to pay your student loans? Why do you need the government to provide you with an income?

    We never asked for any of that shit. What makes you so fucking special?
    Medicare For All and cancelling student debt will not benefit me at all. My choice to support those policies is based on what will most benefit the people and economy of this country, both in the short term and the long term.

    You didn’t ask for any of that shit because you didn’t have to.
    Most people I know, even here, even Race, want a healthcare system that will work and this is reasonably affordable. "Work" is the operative word. It's just proven to be a difficult nut to solve.

    Student loans is easy ... (1) Do NOT forgive them; and (2) get the government out of the student loan business.

    I'll pick this up on the Finance board. Feel free to stop by and hang out for a while. They'll be begging you to come back here inside of a week.
    So get the government out of the student loan biz, and in even deeper to the healthcare biz?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,368
    Sledog said:

    My wife quit work and stayed home to raise the kids. Wouldn't change that and I heartily recommend mom's at home. I don't want other people raising my kids! They could have turned out like HH or something.

    Yeah, who wants wealthy kids anyway?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    My wife quit work and stayed home to raise the kids. Wouldn't change that and I heartily recommend mom's at home. I don't want other people raising my kids! They could have turned out like HH or something.

    Yeah, who wants wealthy kids anyway?
    Money isn't everything. I'd rather my kids had character and integrity, traits you're completely void of.