Promote Gregory to DC?
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Meth and heroine aren’t THAT addictive...Tequilla said:
If Yary’s issues were well known (and it sounds like they were) then he shouldn’t have been brought in
This “we need bad dudes” narrative is fucking idiotic
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I care less about this than the JonDon shit.
That was an obviously questionable hire, and then they made him the highest paid assistant.
Gregory it's clear the other coaches think he's good at development/xs and os. 2019 he was awful, but he's turned a midget skateboarder into an all american and he found his guy in eddie. McDonald it sounded like was going to overtake Sirmon in a full season.
And the coordinator has the least burden to recruit.
The two db coaches and their production and Malloe taking a year off are more unsettling.
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Why are you guys arguing about a TE coach, we have more pressing matters. So Gregory is going to be calling defensive plays? That Michigan game is going to be the biggest overreaction no matter what happens. People are going to be calling for his head/talking shit about how genius James Oceans is. Can't wait. See you fuckers at the Big House
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What a loser Lake is. He's gone from thinking Kellen Moore would be his OC to hiring JonDon, losing EE, Emeka, and Troy, to losing Kwat, and now promoting Gregory.
Has any HC had a shittier off the field year? Seriously. From what was on the table a year ago to this shit pile...
Elite players don't want to play for him, and good coaches don't want to coach for him. -
Lake wanted Moore? You sure that wasn't Pete trying to "help" and "counsel" UW after that embarrassment of a season?Kingdome_Urinals said:What a loser Lake is. He's gone from thinking Kellen Moore would be his OC to hiring JonDon, losing EE, Emeka, and Troy, to losing Kwat, and now promoting Gregory.
Has any HC had a shittier off the field year? Seriously. From what was on the table a year ago to this shit pile...
Elite players don't want to play for him, and good coaches don't want to coach for him.
Since 2013: our offense got softer. Our recruiting targets got more finesse. Our OC got more subservient/shittier.
Lake took a blow torch to that immediately after the Vegas bowl. -
FWIW (nothing, I know), I'm with Big Ern. We at least looked okay this past year (?). We won the North. We finished with the best record. I'm not going to act like it's the crystal football or anything, but it's half decent. I'm very pessimistic about JonDon bc even if you accept he wanted to protect Morris by running the ball, our run schemes were fucking stupid, as in "I haven't really read up on anything new relating to offensive football in 15 years" stupid. Like thinking Leonard Fournette is a good feature back in today's football stupid. You can run the ball w/o getting into jumbo/tight formations. In fact, if you've followed, you know, football, in the past 5 years, you'd know you can generally run the ball *better* that way.
And spare me the myopic provincialism. We're the only one who knows who Otton is pretty much, and Puka caught all of 9 passes. Both look promising but have barely done shit. Let's see a year's production before we start blowing each other, ok?
Back to the optimism. We looked okay even with a guy at QB whose ceiling is decent college QB. Our OL returns, our DL returns, our back end returns. Fuck Cato, I want to see Adams do, oh I don't know, one fucking thing right. Land somebody and then get them to perform. We do that, we should be okay next year. End of the day, our defense probably stays the same and our recruiting probably got better (assuming Rowan is young and fiery). -
Jimmy also said "money was no object" in making the right hire. If that's the case, then why has Jen Cohen been sending out letters to donators pleading with them to save athletics at UW?insinceredawg said:
100% bullshit. Names are always leaked during the interview process as agents try to get their guys free pub.
When I saw Jimmy being interviewed after the Utah win, I felt invigorated by the happiness and passion of the moment.
But I see shit like this and I think he's a bullshit artist. -
When Sark landed the UW job and needed to hire a staff, he didn't know what else to do, so he started hiring guys off the USC staff he had just come from. This feels no different.
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DrKarlHartDawg, true?!! I just heard an argument for this on Joe Rogan.HoustonHusky said: -
How many coaches AREN'T bullshit artists? Chris P, maybe.DerekJohnson said:
Jimmy also said "money was no object" in making the right hire. If that's the case, then why has Jen Cohen been sending out letters to donators pleading with them to save athletics at UW?
When I saw Jimmy being interviewed after the Utah win, I felt invigorated by the happiness and passion of the moment.
But I see shit like this and I think he's a bullshit artist.
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You're making excusesCallMeBigErn said: -
And most coaches failCallMeBigErn said: -
If there was a trial between the group for and against Jimmy Lake and how things are going, All the defense has to stand up and present is these 4 names and case closed.dnc said:
He looks okay though I'd say the jury is still out.
Jimmy has made four staff hires since he's been HC (and multiple moves within the staff.
Jon Donovan
Terrence Brown
Two internal quality control coaches
That could not be a more depressing list.
I get Lake's rolodex is limited but UW is still a have program in the P5.
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Turns out he was plain bullshit. No artCallMeBigErn said: -
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-softy-and-dick-25095845/episode/softy-and-dick-h3-jimmy-77024995/
Jimmy was on Softy's show last night and spit out even more bullshit about BG
-When asked what BG's best quality was, he hesitated and then threw out this gem - "His best quality is his ability to connect with his players"
-When asked about some established players he's recruited he came up with BBK and......DJ Beavers, who played maybe 20 games in his UW career
-Claims all the former players love BG and that guys like Shaq even come back to Seattle just to visit him. As of right now, no former or current player has tweeted anything resembling an endorsement of Gregory
The biggest concern I have is his rationale for keeping the changes internal. He says he doesn't want to bring in an outside who will throw their defensive scheme in the garbage and start from scratch. Fuck off, no one was asking for that. But it's possible to bring someone in with a fresh perspective who can iterate and improve on what's already here. Jimmy is just too fucking arrogant to accept help and despite what PK said in his interviews, I'm certain Jimmy's ego played a part in his decision to leave.
I'm officially team #FireJimmy -
No no no... @FireCohen her fault that guy is the HCinsinceredawg said:https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-softy-and-dick-25095845/episode/softy-and-dick-h3-jimmy-77024995/
Jimmy was on Softy's show last night and spit out even more bullshit about BG
-When asked what BG's best quality was, he hesitated and then threw out this gem - "His best quality is his ability to connect with his players"
-When asked about some established players he's recruited he came up with BBK and......DJ Beavers, who played maybe 20 games in his UW career
-Claims all the former players love BG and that guys like Shaq even come back to Seattle just to visit him. As of right now, no former or current player has tweeted anything resembling an endorsement of Gregory
The biggest concern I have is his rationale for keeping the changes internal. He says he doesn't want to bring in an outside who will throw their defensive scheme in the garbage and start from scratch. Fuck off, no one was asking for that. But it's possible to bring someone in with a fresh perspective who can iterate and improve on what's already here. Jimmy is just too fucking arrogant to accept help and despite what PK said in his interviews, I'm certain Jimmy's ego played a part in his decision to leave.
I'm officially team #FireJimmy -
Not sure why you’re so confident players don’t like Gregory. Focus on the coaching and actual results. There are valid criticisms there. Focusing on whether former players are tweeting about Gregory is FS. I don’t think Lake is making it up that former players like him.insinceredawg said:https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-softy-and-dick-25095845/episode/softy-and-dick-h3-jimmy-77024995/
Jimmy was on Softy's show last night and spit out even more bullshit about BG
-When asked what BG's best quality was, he hesitated and then threw out this gem - "His best quality is his ability to connect with his players"
-When asked about some established players he's recruited he came up with BBK and......DJ Beavers, who played maybe 20 games in his UW career
-Claims all the former players love BG and that guys like Shaq even come back to Seattle just to visit him. As of right now, no former or current player has tweeted anything resembling an endorsement of Gregory
The biggest concern I have is his rationale for keeping the changes internal. He says he doesn't want to bring in an outside who will throw their defensive scheme in the garbage and start from scratch. Fuck off, no one was asking for that. But it's possible to bring someone in with a fresh perspective who can iterate and improve on what's already here. Jimmy is just too fucking arrogant to accept help and despite what PK said in his interviews, I'm certain Jimmy's ego played a part in his decision to leave.
I'm officially team #FireJimmy -
Never let a goodDerekJohnson said:
Jimmy also said "money was no object" in making the right hire. If that's the case, then why has Jen Cohen been sending out letters to donators pleading with them to save athletics at UW?crisisglobal pandemic go to waste
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I missed Derek's comment. Cohen is lying. UW is hurting for money
You don't need inside information you just need to do some basic math on no fans for an entire season and a 4 game TV contract -
Either Huard is going to suck or Husky legend John Donovan is good -
I guess Sam likes to hand the ball off #doomedRaceBannon said:
Either Huard is going to suck or Husky legend John Donovan is good -
Lets be honest. There's like an 85% chance JonDon turns Sam in to a wildcat quarterback. In fact, he kinda has an Eric Crouch look to himdoogville said:
I guess Sam likes to hand the ball off #doomed
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Then get Luke McCaffrey from NebraskaLB_33 said:
Lets be honest. There's like an 85% chance JonDon turns Sam in to a wildcat quarterback. In fact, he kinda has an Eric Crouch look to him -
Or, I mean, he's a good soldier who is dyed in the wool as a Huskie and dad/uncle taught him to spit the company line but...RaceBannon said:
Either Huard is going to suck or Husky legend John Donovan is good
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Hey Jimmy...finally listened to your press conference. Helpful hint..every person I have met in life who constantly tells me how hard they work have been the laziest f*ckers I’ve had to deal with.
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You know a lot of bricklayers?HoustonHusky said:Hey Jimmy...finally listened to your press conference. Helpful hint..every person I have met in life who constantly tells me how hard they work have been the laziest f*ckers I’ve had to deal with.
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For whatever it is worth K also had positive things to say about JonDon on the way out the doorRaceBannon said:
Either Huard is going to suck or Husky legend John Donovan is good -
What did he say?Tequilla said:
For whatever it is worth K also had positive things to say about JonDon on the way out the door -
And Chip Kelly told Oregon's AD to hire Mark Helfrich.Tequilla said:
For whatever it is worth K also had positive things to say about JonDon on the way out the door -
I hope we've calmed down a bit here. Is it likely that Bob was the best possible choice for DC? Of course not. Any time you hire internally or from the family it's shown to be likely a worse choice than if you went outside and did a real search. BUT....
Why is it nobody blasted Oregon for hiring DeRuyter but we get ridiculed/blasted for promoting Gregory. Forget that he's already been here. Check the resumes:
Both were DC at Cal. In DeRuyter's four years his D finished 7, 3, 4, and 5th in the Pac, allowing from 20-28 pts/game.
In Bob years at Cal his D finished 7, 5, 2, 1, 2, T6, 2, and 7th in the Pac, allowing from 16-27 pts/game.
Bob's average finish was slightly higher than DeRuyter's at the same spot, same league. And his best years were better. Why do we act like Oregon's retread shrivel-dick old white guy DC is better than ours? Because they hired him away from somewhere to do it? And how is he as a recruiter? I have no idea, but I haven't heard of him being great.
Now, did we improve at recruiting? I'd say yes, from the VERY little we know. First, Bob's role there won't really have expanded. So that remains essentially constant. But we swap in Rip for Kwat. Kwat was definitely not known for his recruiting, and the players seem pretty excited about Rip. Which means when HS kids ask, they are going to pass along their praise, which is probably the best recruiting tool there is (besides $$). So we should see a slight improvement.
Don't jump off bridges, LIPO is what I'm saying.
