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2017 was not stellar.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
One good year (it’s not like BBK had someone lighting it up next to him in 2018), one decent year and one shit year in the past three is trending hard in the wrong direction.
2015 and 2016 are a long ass time ago.
He’s probably not as bad as the narrative here but he’s not a good coach. -
The secondary and D-line have never had these problems. Because they've stacked talent.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Transfers ALWAYS happen. That is why you don't rely on one guy. Next man up. (not that Milo Eifler would have saved the day anyway.)
As is Bob actually got pretty lucky with Ulofoshio. The upside of only being responsible for two starting positions is you only need to find one guy every few years to put up a passable performance. BBK papered over a lot of Bob's deficiencies for three years. -
This is true but 2020 kind of saves the day. Ulo probably goes pro before his eligibility is fully up now, maybe someone else grad transfers, but we should get a couple of guys who stay the extra year.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
I think it will work itself out. -
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him. -
Hope is a great strategy right lol.dnc said:
This is true but 2020 kind of saves the day. Ulo probably goes pro before his eligibility is fully up now, maybe someone else grad transfers, but we should get a couple of guys who stay the extra year.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
I think it will work itself out.
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The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him. -
People here have been saying Bob got lucky with Azeem, Bierriaiaia, BBK, Eddy, etc.FremontTroll said:
The secondary and D-line have never had these problems. Because they've stacked talent.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Transfers ALWAYS happen. That is why you don't rely on one guy. Next man up. (not that Milo Eifler would have saved the day anyway.)
As is Bob actually got pretty lucky with Ulofoshio. The upside of only being responsible for two starting positions is you only need to find one guy every few years to put up a passable performance. BBK papered over a lot of Bob's deficiencies for three years.
At some point it's not luck, it's great coaching. -
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard. -
The other 9 guys on defense did a pretty good job covering for the shit job done by Bob's two so get off his back okay!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him. -
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited -
Its almost like "doogs" were complaining about the recruiting of his predecessor for years and Olinemen that are physically ready to play year one are exceedingly rare. How does Huff's line look this year?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
You are such a concrete thinker its probably why you love the "LIPO" philosophy. -
A world could exist where we be better without bobPostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited -
Absolutely agree. Im not ready to fire his ass yet. In fact, LB looks like it has a bright future especially if fucking Jackson Sirmon can make a sackFireCohen said:
A world could exist where we be better without bobPostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited -
FremontTroll said:
Its almost like "doogs" were complaining about the recruiting of his predecessor for years and Olinemen that are physically ready to play year one are exceedingly rare. How does Huff's line look this year?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
You are such a concrete thinker its probably why you love the "LIPO" philosophy.
The line has looked fine against beav ute and coot in 3 home games. Crown there ass when they dont get ragdolled by a physical team away from the friendly confines of huskeieieie stadium
That said they look a lot fucking better -
Except those who followed recruiting forecast the OL was going to have a big drop-off and wouldn't you know it, they were right.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited
It's not just recruiting but recruiting does matter.
We ran for 182 yards on 34 carries versus Cal and 104 on 19 carries versus Stanford. The OL didn't lose those games.
The OL wasn't good but it was significantly better than the LBs last year.
-
@racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on thisdnc said:
Except those who followed recruiting forecast the OL was going to have a big drop-off and wouldn't you know it, they were right.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited
It's not just recruiting but recruiting does matter.
We ran for 182 yards on 34 carries versus Cal and 104 on 19 carries versus Stanford. The OL didn't lose those games.
The OL wasn't good but it was significantly better than the LBs last year.
The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.
Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good -
Sacks are more of a QB stat than an OL stat which has born out as all of a sudden there are no sacks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
@racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on thisdnc said:
Except those who followed recruiting forecast the OL was going to have a big drop-off and wouldn't you know it, they were right.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited
It's not just recruiting but recruiting does matter.
We ran for 182 yards on 34 carries versus Cal and 104 on 19 carries versus Stanford. The OL didn't lose those games.
The OL wasn't good but it was significantly better than the LBs last year.
The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.
Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good
It's my favorite thing about Morris, btw. -
Hard disagree.dnc said:
Sacks are more of a QB stat than an OL stat which has born out as all of a sudden there are no sacks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
@racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on thisdnc said:
Except those who followed recruiting forecast the OL was going to have a big drop-off and wouldn't you know it, they were right.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited
It's not just recruiting but recruiting does matter.
We ran for 182 yards on 34 carries versus Cal and 104 on 19 carries versus Stanford. The OL didn't lose those games.
The OL wasn't good but it was significantly better than the LBs last year.
The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.
Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good
It's my favorite thing about Morris, btw.
If that were the case Russ would never get sacked, but the Hawks line has sucked in pass pro for years and one of the most elusive pocket QBs still get sacked.
Its 81% line 19% qb -
Sack numbers remain more static for QBs that switch teams than for OLs who switch QBs. This has proven out over long stretches of time. It's about 60-40 QB-OL or 65-35. The OL obviously plays a part.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Hard disagree.dnc said:
Sacks are more of a QB stat than an OL stat which has born out as all of a sudden there are no sacks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
@racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on thisdnc said:
Except those who followed recruiting forecast the OL was going to have a big drop-off and wouldn't you know it, they were right.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited
It's not just recruiting but recruiting does matter.
We ran for 182 yards on 34 carries versus Cal and 104 on 19 carries versus Stanford. The OL didn't lose those games.
The OL wasn't good but it was significantly better than the LBs last year.
The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.
Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good
It's my favorite thing about Morris, btw.
If that were the case Russ would never get sacked, but the Hawks line has sucked in pass pro for years and one of the most elusive pocket QBs still get sacked.
Its 81% line 19% qb
Russ is a gambler that takes a lot of sacks. It's my least favorite thing about him. The OL has improved significantly this year but he's still taking a lot of sacks. -
See the last two Oregon gamesPostGameOrangeSlices said:
@racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on thisdnc said:
Except those who followed recruiting forecast the OL was going to have a big drop-off and wouldn't you know it, they were right.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited
It's not just recruiting but recruiting does matter.
We ran for 182 yards on 34 carries versus Cal and 104 on 19 carries versus Stanford. The OL didn't lose those games.
The OL wasn't good but it was significantly better than the LBs last year.
The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.
Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good
They ran when we knew they would and couldn't run when we had to
It looks better this year. If results match the talent we think we have we should good to go -
Hi there, we ran all over Oregon when it mattered in 2018. Pete just wouldn't let them finish the job.RaceBannon said:
See the last two Oregon gamesPostGameOrangeSlices said:
@racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on thisdnc said:
Except those who followed recruiting forecast the OL was going to have a big drop-off and wouldn't you know it, they were right.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited
It's not just recruiting but recruiting does matter.
We ran for 182 yards on 34 carries versus Cal and 104 on 19 carries versus Stanford. The OL didn't lose those games.
The OL wasn't good but it was significantly better than the LBs last year.
The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.
Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good
They ran when we knew they would and couldn't run when we had to
It looks better this year. If results match the talent we think we have we should good to go -
This thread has gone horribly awry.
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Maybe, show me @thechart on your first pointdnc said:
Sack numbers remain more static for QBs that switch teams than for OLs who switch QBs. This has proven out over long stretches of time. It's about 60-40 QB-OL or 65-35. The OL obviously plays a part.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Hard disagree.dnc said:
Sacks are more of a QB stat than an OL stat which has born out as all of a sudden there are no sacks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
@racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on thisdnc said:
Except those who followed recruiting forecast the OL was going to have a big drop-off and wouldn't you know it, they were right.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited
It's not just recruiting but recruiting does matter.
We ran for 182 yards on 34 carries versus Cal and 104 on 19 carries versus Stanford. The OL didn't lose those games.
The OL wasn't good but it was significantly better than the LBs last year.
The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.
Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good
It's my favorite thing about Morris, btw.
If that were the case Russ would never get sacked, but the Hawks line has sucked in pass pro for years and one of the most elusive pocket QBs still get sacked.
Its 81% line 19% qb
Russ is a gambler that takes a lot of sacks. It's my least favorite thing about him. The OL has improved significantly this year but he's still taking a lot of sacks.
And it's not like sacks are the only pass pro stat. Pressures, hurries, etc.
Bottom line is the only year the pass pro has been great was 2016, with HUGE asterisks for more talented bama and usc teams where they got annihilated -
Disagree this is actually decent football analysis/discussion for this boredGrundleStiltzkin said:This thread has gone horribly awry.
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It's pretty widely known if you dig into stats at all. Here's one article on it with links inside to a bunch of others.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Maybe, show me @thechart on your first pointdnc said:
Sack numbers remain more static for QBs that switch teams than for OLs who switch QBs. This has proven out over long stretches of time. It's about 60-40 QB-OL or 65-35. The OL obviously plays a part.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Hard disagree.dnc said:
Sacks are more of a QB stat than an OL stat which has born out as all of a sudden there are no sacks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
@racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on thisdnc said:
Except those who followed recruiting forecast the OL was going to have a big drop-off and wouldn't you know it, they were right.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited
It's not just recruiting but recruiting does matter.
We ran for 182 yards on 34 carries versus Cal and 104 on 19 carries versus Stanford. The OL didn't lose those games.
The OL wasn't good but it was significantly better than the LBs last year.
The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.
Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good
It's my favorite thing about Morris, btw.
If that were the case Russ would never get sacked, but the Hawks line has sucked in pass pro for years and one of the most elusive pocket QBs still get sacked.
Its 81% line 19% qb
Russ is a gambler that takes a lot of sacks. It's my least favorite thing about him. The OL has improved significantly this year but he's still taking a lot of sacks.
And it's not like sacks are the only pass pro stat. Pressures, hurries, etc.
Bottom line is the only year the pass pro has been great was 2016, with HUGE asterisks for more talented bama and usc teams where they got annihilated
https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/sacks-are-a-quarterback-stat-01dxqapkgvw9 -
The best way to be successful on 3rd or 4th and short...is not to end up in 3rd or 4th and short.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
@racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on thisdnc said:
Except those who followed recruiting forecast the OL was going to have a big drop-off and wouldn't you know it, they were right.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited
It's not just recruiting but recruiting does matter.
We ran for 182 yards on 34 carries versus Cal and 104 on 19 carries versus Stanford. The OL didn't lose those games.
The OL wasn't good but it was significantly better than the LBs last year.
The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.
Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good
Our "power success rate" (3rd/4th and 2 or less to go) was 71.4% or 67th in the nation. Mediocre at best but not a killer- some terrible teams are ranked in the top ten and some good teams were worse than us (Minnesota, Oregon, Notre Dame, Utah.) -
Losers lose.dnc said:
Hi there, we ran all over Oregon when it mattered in 2018. Pete just wouldn't let them finish the job.RaceBannon said:
See the last two Oregon gamesPostGameOrangeSlices said:
@racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on thisdnc said:
Except those who followed recruiting forecast the OL was going to have a big drop-off and wouldn't you know it, they were right.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited
It's not just recruiting but recruiting does matter.
We ran for 182 yards on 34 carries versus Cal and 104 on 19 carries versus Stanford. The OL didn't lose those games.
The OL wasn't good but it was significantly better than the LBs last year.
The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.
Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good
They ran when we knew they would and couldn't run when we had to
It looks better this year. If results match the talent we think we have we should good to go -
Youre starting to sound like Chest with this metrics shit.dnc said:
It's pretty widely known if you dig into stats at all. Here's one article on it with links inside to a bunch of others.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Maybe, show me @thechart on your first pointdnc said:
Sack numbers remain more static for QBs that switch teams than for OLs who switch QBs. This has proven out over long stretches of time. It's about 60-40 QB-OL or 65-35. The OL obviously plays a part.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Hard disagree.dnc said:
Sacks are more of a QB stat than an OL stat which has born out as all of a sudden there are no sacks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
@racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on thisdnc said:
Except those who followed recruiting forecast the OL was going to have a big drop-off and wouldn't you know it, they were right.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited
It's not just recruiting but recruiting does matter.
We ran for 182 yards on 34 carries versus Cal and 104 on 19 carries versus Stanford. The OL didn't lose those games.
The OL wasn't good but it was significantly better than the LBs last year.
The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.
Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good
It's my favorite thing about Morris, btw.
If that were the case Russ would never get sacked, but the Hawks line has sucked in pass pro for years and one of the most elusive pocket QBs still get sacked.
Its 81% line 19% qb
Russ is a gambler that takes a lot of sacks. It's my least favorite thing about him. The OL has improved significantly this year but he's still taking a lot of sacks.
And it's not like sacks are the only pass pro stat. Pressures, hurries, etc.
Bottom line is the only year the pass pro has been great was 2016, with HUGE asterisks for more talented bama and usc teams where they got annihilated
https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/sacks-are-a-quarterback-stat-01dxqapkgvw9
That article was mildly intersting but ends with him saying he needs more stats and graphs and linear regressions.
Ive played and watched enough football to know shitty pass pro when I see it.
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And we had two consistently jittery QBs who tried and failed to extend plays and took tons of sacks. All this despite two different OL coaches and a slew of different OL in that tim period.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Maybe, show me @thechart on your first pointdnc said:
Sack numbers remain more static for QBs that switch teams than for OLs who switch QBs. This has proven out over long stretches of time. It's about 60-40 QB-OL or 65-35. The OL obviously plays a part.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Hard disagree.dnc said:
Sacks are more of a QB stat than an OL stat which has born out as all of a sudden there are no sacks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
@racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on thisdnc said:
Except those who followed recruiting forecast the OL was going to have a big drop-off and wouldn't you know it, they were right.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.dnc said:
He didn't get the same criticism because he wasn't coaching his own guys.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The defense by and large did enough to win. Every offensive position group fucking sucked. But Huff is a flashy recruiter so doogs dont give him the same criticism when we cant block against fucking Cal, Stanford, etc.dnc said:
LB wasn't the only underperforming group but it was the worst performing group and the only other one that was close had a new position coach who was coaching guys he didn't recruit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Im not handwaving it away. It was a disaster. There were other disasters on that team too...most position groups really underperformedFremontTroll said:
How do you just handwave away the 2019 linebacker performance?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Other position groups have had similar stories. I agree that was bad, but literally every other year LBs have been a strength. Fucking doogs like you hate him because he's not a sizzle recruiter.FireCohen said:
Dude after 1 game they could have just moved of from manu but they played him through the whole yearPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Yeah no other position group has ever started someone when the backup was better....FireCohen said:
Dude he sat eddy behind manu, if that is not a fireable offense. I don’t fucking know what isPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We have had 1 bad LB year and 4 stellar ones.AtomicDawg said:
It’s his fault for not landing and keeping adequate talent year over year.RoadDawg55 said:
I know we hate Bobby, but it’s not really his fault if/when a 3rd string LB transfers. Kids want to play.FireCohen said:
I would like to personally bob Gregory for that cluster fuck of LB room. Kids going to transfer.bananasnblondes said:
Yeah, the LB depth chart is a real cluster fuck because you have like 6 guys who are RS Sophs or RS Freshmen for 2 positions. So when people say we are deep at LB, that's true but eligibility wise we could really have some problems in a couple years. Some will leave for playing time elsewhere, and the rest will all graduate together. We took 1 lb last year (Bruener) and it appears we are only taking 1 this year (Latu) and he comes with a giant red flag. UW could be in a world of hurt at that position in a couple years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Our LB situation is weird. I thought Tafisi looked good but now he is stuck behind two players with the same eligibility he has
One of those guys that aren’t in the mix are probably going to transfer. We have four guys the same class and two sophomores starting.
Unless those guys really want a UW degree, they aren’t going to stick around and be a 3rd or 4th string player.
And i will never forgive him for Wellington/Manu starting. Bob provides no value to the program and is a well paid assistant.
The Bob Gregory hate on this board never made any sense and is another DDYFS platitude
If you want to argue special teams, fine
He is responsible for two starting players out of eleven. It isn't hard. A year that bad is never excusable. Especially when it was entirely foreseeable years ahead of time based on how he was failing to stack talent. Look at all the guys we missed on 2015-2018. BBK only had 4 years of eligibility and we knew in 2016 he would be gone in two more years and Kieshawn and Azeem in one more year.
As it turned out we had to put an all out blitz on recruiting LBs in 2019 to try to make up for lost time. Now our roster is all jacked up in terms of class composition and yeah, a few of those guys are going to transfer.
Transfers happen. The eligibility situation is awkward, but you doogs cant preach recruit and let the best players play and then get upset with transfers.
Bob was the only coach on the staff who completely shit the bed with his own guys.
There's no one to blame but him.
This isn't hard.
If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited
It's not just recruiting but recruiting does matter.
We ran for 182 yards on 34 carries versus Cal and 104 on 19 carries versus Stanford. The OL didn't lose those games.
The OL wasn't good but it was significantly better than the LBs last year.
The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.
Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good
It's my favorite thing about Morris, btw.
If that were the case Russ would never get sacked, but the Hawks line has sucked in pass pro for years and one of the most elusive pocket QBs still get sacked.
Its 81% line 19% qb
Russ is a gambler that takes a lot of sacks. It's my least favorite thing about him. The OL has improved significantly this year but he's still taking a lot of sacks.
And it's not like sacks are the only pass pro stat. Pressures, hurries, etc.
Bottom line is the only year the pass pro has been great was 2016, with HUGE asterisks for more talented bama and usc teams where they got annihilated
This year we don't and the sacks are gone.
Either Huff suddenly figure it out or we got rid of the pants shitting QBs. As much as I'd like to credit Huff (who I think is good), the addition by subtraction behind CENTER combined with addition by addition with Morris is the biggest factor. -
Anytime PGOS is involved its a good threadPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree this is actually decent football analysis/discussion for this boredGrundleStiltzkin said:This thread has gone horribly awry.
