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Tucker: Trump is an indictment of America's ruling class

DerekJohnson
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edited November 2020 in Tug Tavern
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    If that doesn’t move you to stop and get a box of Swanson frozen chicken for dinner tonight, what will?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,069
    doogie said:

    If that doesn’t move you to stop and get a box of Swanson frozen chicken for dinner tonight, what will?

    That's borderline ISAFNRC but we'll let it slide.....

  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited November 2020
    Tucker’s Family Trust didn’t fund itself. Started out as chicken for those who want to erase history.

    In fairness, I suppose any Swanson frozen entree will do
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    edited November 2020
    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    I think the ruling class is the uni party establishment in government. They are funded by the so called elite
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    I thought it was the Christian Right that had all the power.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    Good poast.

    Professionals looking down on rural America isn't why they're not building railroad cars in Butler, Pa. People who allegedly love capitalism need to recognize that creative destruction means someone loses.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    Good poast.

    Professionals looking down on rural America isn't why they're not building railroad cars in Butler, Pa. People who allegedly love capitalism need to recognize that creative destruction means someone loses.
    Is banning fracking part of that love of capitalism Dazzler? People living in Butler realize that the economy can't stay the same but they also realize that Rats like Biden are more than willing to sell them out in order to placate the AOC wing of his party.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    Good poast.

    Professionals looking down on rural America isn't why they're not building railroad cars in Butler, Pa. People who allegedly love capitalism need to recognize that creative destruction means someone loses.
    Is banning fracking part of that love of capitalism Dazzler? People living in Butler realize that the economy can't stay the same but they also realize that Rats like Biden are more than willing to sell them out in order to placate the AOC wing of his party.
    You're making my point. So Trump was elected on the backs of millions of resentments. I've only been saying that for four years.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    Good poast.

    Professionals looking down on rural America isn't why they're not building railroad cars in Butler, Pa. People who allegedly love capitalism need to recognize that creative destruction means someone loses.
    Is banning fracking part of that love of capitalism Dazzler? People living in Butler realize that the economy can't stay the same but they also realize that Rats like Biden are more than willing to sell them out in order to placate the AOC wing of his party.
    You're making my point. So Trump was elected on the backs of millions of resentments. I've only been saying that for four years.
    So being energy independent and the jobs that come with it is a "resentment"?

    Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

    The only resentment I am seeing is the butt hurt libs crying about Trump for 5 years
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited November 2020
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    Good poast.

    Professionals looking down on rural America isn't why they're not building railroad cars in Butler, Pa. People who allegedly love capitalism need to recognize that creative destruction means someone loses.
    Is banning fracking part of that love of capitalism Dazzler? People living in Butler realize that the economy can't stay the same but they also realize that Rats like Biden are more than willing to sell them out in order to placate the AOC wing of his party.
    You're making my point. So Trump was elected on the backs of millions of resentments. I've only been saying that for four years.
    Actually I directly refuted your point but I wouldn't expect a dishonest hack like yourself to admit it.


    Your party sells nothing but resentment Dazzler. Racial resentment, class resentment, resentment against religious people, against the country and against anyone who doesn't agree with them.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    Good poast.

    Professionals looking down on rural America isn't why they're not building railroad cars in Butler, Pa. People who allegedly love capitalism need to recognize that creative destruction means someone loses.
    Is banning fracking part of that love of capitalism Dazzler? People living in Butler realize that the economy can't stay the same but they also realize that Rats like Biden are more than willing to sell them out in order to placate the AOC wing of his party.
    You're making my point. So Trump was elected on the backs of millions of resentments. I've only been saying that for four years.
    So being energy independent and the jobs that come with it is a "resentment"?

    Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

    The only resentment I am seeing is the butt hurt libs crying about Trump for 5 years
    But if someone proposes that the fracking industry be regulated so as not to impose its negative externalities on others and/or be required to bear the true costs of its activities, you girls think that's "socialism".
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    Good poast.

    Professionals looking down on rural America isn't why they're not building railroad cars in Butler, Pa. People who allegedly love capitalism need to recognize that creative destruction means someone loses.
    Is banning fracking part of that love of capitalism Dazzler? People living in Butler realize that the economy can't stay the same but they also realize that Rats like Biden are more than willing to sell them out in order to placate the AOC wing of his party.
    You're making my point. So Trump was elected on the backs of millions of resentments. I've only been saying that for four years.
    So being energy independent and the jobs that come with it is a "resentment"?

    Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

    The only resentment I am seeing is the butt hurt libs crying about Trump for 5 years
    But if someone proposes that the fracking industry be regulated so as not to impose its negative externalities on others and/or be required to bear the true costs of its activities, you girls think that's "socialism".
    Fuck off Dazzler, your party isn't backing "regulation" of fracking. They want it banned and eliminated. Fracking is all ready "regulated" you fucking dishonest hack.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    Tucker has accidentally tripped over some truths here, though he misinterprets them. Even he won't say Trump loves those people, though he indicts the "ruling class" for not loving them either.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    Good poast.

    Professionals looking down on rural America isn't why they're not building railroad cars in Butler, Pa. People who allegedly love capitalism need to recognize that creative destruction means someone loses.
    Is banning fracking part of that love of capitalism Dazzler? People living in Butler realize that the economy can't stay the same but they also realize that Rats like Biden are more than willing to sell them out in order to placate the AOC wing of his party.
    You're making my point. So Trump was elected on the backs of millions of resentments. I've only been saying that for four years.
    So being energy independent and the jobs that come with it is a "resentment"?

    Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

    The only resentment I am seeing is the butt hurt libs crying about Trump for 5 years
    But if someone proposes that the fracking industry be regulated so as not to impose its negative externalities on others and/or be required to bear the true costs of its activities, you girls think that's "socialism".
    A blanket ban is not "regulated so as not to impose its negative externalities", you are a retard lawyer that takes flights in the middle of the pandemic.

    There are people here that actually know O&G, fracking, and the regulatory hurdles... just STFU and get back to posting Vid numbers
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    Tucker has accidentally tripped over some truths here, though he misinterprets them. Even he won't say Trump loves those people, though he indicts the "ruling class" for not loving them either.

    By not hating them and not trying to make them poorer with his policies like Biden and the Rats have done Trump has shown them all the "love" he needs to. Trump doesn't shit on their values and like them he loves the country.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    Good poast.

    Professionals looking down on rural America isn't why they're not building railroad cars in Butler, Pa. People who allegedly love capitalism need to recognize that creative destruction means someone loses.
    Is banning fracking part of that love of capitalism Dazzler? People living in Butler realize that the economy can't stay the same but they also realize that Rats like Biden are more than willing to sell them out in order to placate the AOC wing of his party.
    You're making my point. So Trump was elected on the backs of millions of resentments. I've only been saying that for four years.
    So being energy independent and the jobs that come with it is a "resentment"?

    Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

    The only resentment I am seeing is the butt hurt libs crying about Trump for 5 years
    But if someone proposes that the fracking industry be regulated so as not to impose its negative externalities on others and/or be required to bear the true costs of its activities, you girls think that's "socialism".
    Fuck off Dazzler, your party isn't backing "regulation" of fracking. They want it banned and eliminated. Fracking is all ready "regulated" you fucking dishonest hack.
    Fracking is clearly economical as long as third parties bear enough of its costs. Is it economical when the industry bears them? Maybe. But that isn't what's been happening. Some want it eliminated for that reason, sure.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    I'm not looking for a daddy like some folks here
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    I'm not looking for a daddy like some folks here

    So you're voting Trump for his good looks.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    Good poast.

    Professionals looking down on rural America isn't why they're not building railroad cars in Butler, Pa. People who allegedly love capitalism need to recognize that creative destruction means someone loses.
    Is banning fracking part of that love of capitalism Dazzler? People living in Butler realize that the economy can't stay the same but they also realize that Rats like Biden are more than willing to sell them out in order to placate the AOC wing of his party.
    You're making my point. So Trump was elected on the backs of millions of resentments. I've only been saying that for four years.
    So being energy independent and the jobs that come with it is a "resentment"?

    Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

    The only resentment I am seeing is the butt hurt libs crying about Trump for 5 years
    But if someone proposes that the fracking industry be regulated so as not to impose its negative externalities on others and/or be required to bear the true costs of its activities, you girls think that's "socialism".
    Fuck off Dazzler, your party isn't backing "regulation" of fracking. They want it banned and eliminated. Fracking is all ready "regulated" you fucking dishonest hack.
    Fracking is clearly economical as long as third parties bear enough of its costs. Is it economical when the industry bears them? Maybe. But that isn't what's been happening. Some want it eliminated for that reason, sure.
    What are the costs of fracking? Don't hurt yourself. What are the costs of not fracking? $5 a gallon gasoline.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    Good poast.

    Professionals looking down on rural America isn't why they're not building railroad cars in Butler, Pa. People who allegedly love capitalism need to recognize that creative destruction means someone loses.
    Is banning fracking part of that love of capitalism Dazzler? People living in Butler realize that the economy can't stay the same but they also realize that Rats like Biden are more than willing to sell them out in order to placate the AOC wing of his party.
    You're making my point. So Trump was elected on the backs of millions of resentments. I've only been saying that for four years.
    So being energy independent and the jobs that come with it is a "resentment"?

    Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

    The only resentment I am seeing is the butt hurt libs crying about Trump for 5 years
    But if someone proposes that the fracking industry be regulated so as not to impose its negative externalities on others and/or be required to bear the true costs of its activities, you girls think that's "socialism".
    Fuck off Dazzler, your party isn't backing "regulation" of fracking. They want it banned and eliminated. Fracking is all ready "regulated" you fucking dishonest hack.
    Fracking is clearly economical as long as third parties bear enough of its costs. Is it economical when the industry bears them? Maybe. But that isn't what's been happening. Some want it eliminated for that reason, sure.
    Translation: Please ignore the fact that I just lied my ass off and claimed the Rats only want to regulate fracking, won't you please chase after my diversion?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    Good poast.

    Professionals looking down on rural America isn't why they're not building railroad cars in Butler, Pa. People who allegedly love capitalism need to recognize that creative destruction means someone loses.
    Is banning fracking part of that love of capitalism Dazzler? People living in Butler realize that the economy can't stay the same but they also realize that Rats like Biden are more than willing to sell them out in order to placate the AOC wing of his party.
    You're making my point. So Trump was elected on the backs of millions of resentments. I've only been saying that for four years.
    So being energy independent and the jobs that come with it is a "resentment"?

    Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

    The only resentment I am seeing is the butt hurt libs crying about Trump for 5 years
    But if someone proposes that the fracking industry be regulated so as not to impose its negative externalities on others and/or be required to bear the true costs of its activities, you girls think that's "socialism".
    Fuck off Dazzler, your party isn't backing "regulation" of fracking. They want it banned and eliminated. Fracking is all ready "regulated" you fucking dishonest hack.
    Fracking is clearly economical as long as third parties bear enough of its costs. Is it economical when the industry bears them? Maybe. But that isn't what's been happening. Some want it eliminated for that reason, sure.
    What are the costs of fracking? Don't hurt yourself. What are the costs of not fracking? $5 a gallon gasoline.
    Apparently Oregon doesn't have an econ department.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    Good poast.

    Professionals looking down on rural America isn't why they're not building railroad cars in Butler, Pa. People who allegedly love capitalism need to recognize that creative destruction means someone loses.
    Is banning fracking part of that love of capitalism Dazzler? People living in Butler realize that the economy can't stay the same but they also realize that Rats like Biden are more than willing to sell them out in order to placate the AOC wing of his party.
    You're making my point. So Trump was elected on the backs of millions of resentments. I've only been saying that for four years.
    So being energy independent and the jobs that come with it is a "resentment"?

    Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

    The only resentment I am seeing is the butt hurt libs crying about Trump for 5 years
    But if someone proposes that the fracking industry be regulated so as not to impose its negative externalities on others and/or be required to bear the true costs of its activities, you girls think that's "socialism".
    Fuck off Dazzler, your party isn't backing "regulation" of fracking. They want it banned and eliminated. Fracking is all ready "regulated" you fucking dishonest hack.
    Fracking is clearly economical as long as third parties bear enough of its costs. Is it economical when the industry bears them? Maybe. But that isn't what's been happening. Some want it eliminated for that reason, sure.
    What are the costs of fracking? Don't hurt yourself. What are the costs of not fracking? $5 a gallon gasoline.
    Apparently Oregon doesn't have an econ department.
    White flag.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    Good poast.

    Professionals looking down on rural America isn't why they're not building railroad cars in Butler, Pa. People who allegedly love capitalism need to recognize that creative destruction means someone loses.
    Is banning fracking part of that love of capitalism Dazzler? People living in Butler realize that the economy can't stay the same but they also realize that Rats like Biden are more than willing to sell them out in order to placate the AOC wing of his party.
    You're making my point. So Trump was elected on the backs of millions of resentments. I've only been saying that for four years.
    So being energy independent and the jobs that come with it is a "resentment"?

    Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

    The only resentment I am seeing is the butt hurt libs crying about Trump for 5 years
    But if someone proposes that the fracking industry be regulated so as not to impose its negative externalities on others and/or be required to bear the true costs of its activities, you girls think that's "socialism".
    Fuck off Dazzler, your party isn't backing "regulation" of fracking. They want it banned and eliminated. Fracking is all ready "regulated" you fucking dishonest hack.
    Fracking is clearly economical as long as third parties bear enough of its costs. Is it economical when the industry bears them? Maybe. But that isn't what's been happening. Some want it eliminated for that reason, sure.
    What are the costs of fracking? Don't hurt yourself. What are the costs of not fracking? $5 a gallon gasoline.
    Apparently Oregon doesn't have an econ department.
    White flag.
    That's the problem with arguing with leftards like the dazzler who think that strong feelings overcome facts. Everyone "knows" of the horrible external costs of fracking. So, the dazzler will just state that fracking has horrible external costs and think he has made some great point. I'm not sure what Econ 101 has to do with the external costs of fracking that can't be enumerated or quantified.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    Good poast.

    Professionals looking down on rural America isn't why they're not building railroad cars in Butler, Pa. People who allegedly love capitalism need to recognize that creative destruction means someone loses.
    Is banning fracking part of that love of capitalism Dazzler? People living in Butler realize that the economy can't stay the same but they also realize that Rats like Biden are more than willing to sell them out in order to placate the AOC wing of his party.
    You're making my point. So Trump was elected on the backs of millions of resentments. I've only been saying that for four years.
    So being energy independent and the jobs that come with it is a "resentment"?

    Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

    The only resentment I am seeing is the butt hurt libs crying about Trump for 5 years
    But if someone proposes that the fracking industry be regulated so as not to impose its negative externalities on others and/or be required to bear the true costs of its activities, you girls think that's "socialism".
    Fuck off Dazzler, your party isn't backing "regulation" of fracking. They want it banned and eliminated. Fracking is all ready "regulated" you fucking dishonest hack.
    Fracking is clearly economical as long as third parties bear enough of its costs. Is it economical when the industry bears them? Maybe. But that isn't what's been happening. Some want it eliminated for that reason, sure.
    What are the costs of fracking? Don't hurt yourself. What are the costs of not fracking? $5 $10 a gallon gasoline.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    I'm not looking for a daddy like some folks here

    So you're voting Trump for his good looks.
    Like I have said a million times

    It is policy

    You keep looking for daddy
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    edited November 2020
    SFGbob said:

    I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.

    At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.

    Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.

    I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?

    Chintresting either way.

    I thought it was the Christian Right that had all the power.
    I don't think I've ever said that. I've said that the Christian right has wielded a lot of influence in American politics, and I've not experienced or observed anything since the last time I wrote that to now to change my mind. I'm open to an alternative view.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    We need to acknowledge the external cost of no longer being controlled by a criminal and dictator controlled multinational cartel.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    I am not an O&G guy, but I work at a company with passive interests in it. There was a time when it was scaring the shit out of people. I had our guy, a petroleum engineer who's been in this space for decades, explain it to me. Again, not my area, but it didn't seem that much different from an environmental hazard standpoint than drilling vertically. That conversation is now 5 to 10 years old, but that's what I recall.