Tucker: Trump is an indictment of America's ruling class
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The dazzler is worried about too much dihydrogen monoxide in his tap water.
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Think how conflicted Dazzler is knowing that Joe supports fracking despite all of those toxic chemicals ruining the environment.RaceBannon said:Biden is FOR fracking anyway
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Just like the dazzler was butt hurt that barry didn't support gay marriage in 2008. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
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That may be. That will be put to the test tonight.SFGbob said:
Whatever power or influence the Christian Right has is a fraction of the power and influence of the Religious Left.creepycoug said:
I don't think I've ever said that. I've said that the Christian right has wielded a lot of influence in American politics, and I've not experienced or observed anything since the last time I wrote that to now to change my mind. I'm open to an alternative view.SFGbob said:
I thought it was the Christian Right that had all the power.creepycoug said:I like Tucker ... quite a bit actually. I think he's at his best when he's a little more pissed off.
At any rate, a law professor at UC Hastings wrote a piece, I think in the Harvard Business Review, right after the first election. It's a good read. She really gets in to this distinction between the professional class and the elite wealth ruling class.
Tucker, in this piece, is making her same overall point, but he's conflating those two classes. I don't think the professional class is the ruling class. I don't think they are to blame for fucking things up because I don't think they have that much power.
I get what he's getting at ... the upper middle class and well educated professional who will only live on a coast or Chicago who looks down his nose at people with dirt under their finger nails. But are they really the people who fucked things up here? Are they the "ruling class"?
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I think there are chemicals used in vertical drilling. As it was explained to me, the real risk is running drilling lines in every which direction (the essence of fracking) and accidentally running into underground water sources along the way. I'm told it's exceedingly rare.HHusky said:
I don't know whether multiple toxic chemicals are used in vertical drilling. They are in fracking.creepycoug said:I am not an O&G guy, but I work at a company with passive interests in it. There was a time when it was scaring the shit out of people. I had our guy, a petroleum engineer who's been in this space for decades, explain it to me. Again, not my area, but it didn't seem that much different from an environmental hazard standpoint than drilling vertically. That conversation is now 5 to 10 years old, but that's what I recall.
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Yes, but as you say, you're told that by O&G guys.creepycoug said:
I think there are chemicals used in vertical drilling. As it was explained to me, the real risk is running drilling lines in every which direction (the essence of fracking) and accidentally running into underground water sources along the way. I'm told it's exceedingly rare.HHusky said:
I don't know whether multiple toxic chemicals are used in vertical drilling. They are in fracking.creepycoug said:I am not an O&G guy, but I work at a company with passive interests in it. There was a time when it was scaring the shit out of people. I had our guy, a petroleum engineer who's been in this space for decades, explain it to me. Again, not my area, but it didn't seem that much different from an environmental hazard standpoint than drilling vertically. That conversation is now 5 to 10 years old, but that's what I recall.
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There are "chemicals" in everything.creepycoug said:
I think there are chemicals used in vertical drilling. As it was explained to me, the real risk is running drilling lines in every which direction (the essence of fracking) and accidentally running into underground water sources along the way. I'm told it's exceedingly rare.HHusky said:
I don't know whether multiple toxic chemicals are used in vertical drilling. They are in fracking.creepycoug said:I am not an O&G guy, but I work at a company with passive interests in it. There was a time when it was scaring the shit out of people. I had our guy, a petroleum engineer who's been in this space for decades, explain it to me. Again, not my area, but it didn't seem that much different from an environmental hazard standpoint than drilling vertically. That conversation is now 5 to 10 years old, but that's what I recall.
frack fluid is 99% water and sand, relatively mild additives are sometimes added to stop bacteria growing in the drilling mud. Drilling mud is most often water with bentonite clay, chalk, or barite and not at all dangerous. Sometimes lignosulfates (Caldawgs wood chips) and Sometimes xanthum gum (in your grandmas pantry) is added if needed.
Most operators aren't exploratorily horizontally drilling, they aren't running into groundwater on the horizontal run, the turns are almost always >8,000 feet deep, the Ogallala aquifer is ~1,200 feet for reference. There is often MILES of vertical distance between ground water aquifers and the horizontal borehole.
Horizontal rigs are significantly newer, much more expensive, and run by larger more organized operations, they aren't small time guys, they are significantly safer than the rando operator poking vertical holes in the ground.
The vast majority of environmental issues from fracking (very few compared to transportation spills or decades old abandoned wells) occurs with improper and illegal disposal of the fluid after drilling.
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Gasbag was awesome on that middle school covered wagon.WestlinnDuck said:The dazzler is worried about too much dihydrogen monoxide in his tap water.
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Just stay in your basement dazzler and worry about the dangers of fracking in Pennsylvania.HHusky said:
Gasbag was awesome on that middle school covered wagon.WestlinnDuck said:The dazzler is worried about too much dihydrogen monoxide in his tap water.
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Biden is in favor of frackingHHusky said:
Yes, but as you say, you're told that by O&G guys.creepycoug said:
I think there are chemicals used in vertical drilling. As it was explained to me, the real risk is running drilling lines in every which direction (the essence of fracking) and accidentally running into underground water sources along the way. I'm told it's exceedingly rare.HHusky said:
I don't know whether multiple toxic chemicals are used in vertical drilling. They are in fracking.creepycoug said:I am not an O&G guy, but I work at a company with passive interests in it. There was a time when it was scaring the shit out of people. I had our guy, a petroleum engineer who's been in this space for decades, explain it to me. Again, not my area, but it didn't seem that much different from an environmental hazard standpoint than drilling vertically. That conversation is now 5 to 10 years old, but that's what I recall.
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