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If somebody was motivated to spend 15 seconds on internet research, it would be easy to find outMikeDamone said:
Good Christ. The term "well regulated" in the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with gun regulations. For fucks sake. Is this a whoosh?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Just to play devil's advocate, it does have to do with gun laws (though guns aren't the problem)MikeDamone said:
HINT : It has nothing to do with that or gun laws. The fact you think it has to do with gun laws and regulation speaks volumes. Not just on this topic, but all the others you chimed in on.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Well, it probably doesn't mean the insane can go buy weapons fairly easily.MikeDamone said:
I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.HuskyJW said:I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.
It needs to be more difficult to get guns.
The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it. -
Finally...sarktastic said:
If somebody was motivated to spend 15 seconds on internet research, it would be easy to find outMikeDamone said:
Good Christ. The term "well regulated" in the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with gun regulations. For fucks sake. Is this a whoosh?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Just to play devil's advocate, it does have to do with gun laws (though guns aren't the problem)MikeDamone said:
HINT : It has nothing to do with that or gun laws. The fact you think it has to do with gun laws and regulation speaks volumes. Not just on this topic, but all the others you chimed in on.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Well, it probably doesn't mean the insane can go buy weapons fairly easily.MikeDamone said:
I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.HuskyJW said:I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.
It needs to be more difficult to get guns.
The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it. -
Yea but still.sarktastic said:
If somebody was motivated to spend 15 seconds on internet research, it would be easy to find outMikeDamone said:
Good Christ. The term "well regulated" in the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with gun regulations. For fucks sake. Is this a whoosh?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Just to play devil's advocate, it does have to do with gun laws (though guns aren't the problem)MikeDamone said:
HINT : It has nothing to do with that or gun laws. The fact you think it has to do with gun laws and regulation speaks volumes. Not just on this topic, but all the others you chimed in on.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Well, it probably doesn't mean the insane can go buy weapons fairly easily.MikeDamone said:
I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.HuskyJW said:I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.
It needs to be more difficult to get guns.
The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it. -
Never said it did, I guess I missed something...MikeDamone said:
Good Christ. The term "well regulated" in the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with gun regulations. For fucks sake. Is this a whoosh?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Just to play devil's advocate, it does have to do with gun laws (though guns aren't the problem)MikeDamone said:
HINT : It has nothing to do with that or gun laws. The fact you think it has to do with gun laws and regulation speaks volumes. Not just on this topic, but all the others you chimed in on.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Well, it probably doesn't mean the insane can go buy weapons fairly easily.MikeDamone said:
I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.HuskyJW said:I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.
It needs to be more difficult to get guns. -
You said "it does have to do with gun laws". I guess I assumed you were responding to the topic that was being discussed.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Never said it did, I guess I missed something...MikeDamone said:
Good Christ. The term "well regulated" in the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with gun regulations. For fucks sake. Is this a whoosh?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Just to play devil's advocate, it does have to do with gun laws (though guns aren't the problem)MikeDamone said:
HINT : It has nothing to do with that or gun laws. The fact you think it has to do with gun laws and regulation speaks volumes. Not just on this topic, but all the others you chimed in on.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Well, it probably doesn't mean the insane can go buy weapons fairly easily.MikeDamone said:
I don't think you know what "well regulated" means. Or maybe you're whooshing us.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
The NRA and gun nuts always get amnesia when it comes to the "well regulated" part.HuskyJW said:I would just like to go on record to say that while I support the 2nd Amendment....I am against supporting the rights of the 2nd Amendment.
It needs to be more difficult to get guns. -
I'll take gun rights and take 20K-100K murders in the U.S. every year vs the next dictator purge which could possibly bein the 1 billion+ range. IMO, I think the next sociopathic dictator from a major power will be it for humanity. I'm not worried about guns, but worried about the various new WMDs which every country in the world will probably have within the next 100 years.
One short term solution to reduce murders is to legalize weed nationwide and the murder rate could possibly drop 5-20%. Legalizing prostitution in California might have just saved 6 lives around UCSB. -
Legalizing drugs and prostitution are long term solutions for a lot of this cuntry's problems...priapism said:I'll take gun rights and take 20K-100K murders in the U.S. every year vs the next dictator purge which could possibly bein the 1 billion+ range. IMO, I think the next sociopathic dictator from a major power will be it for humanity. I'm not worried about guns, but worried about the various new WMDs which every country in the world will probably have within the next 100 years.
One short term solution to reduce murders is to legalize weed nationwide and the murder rate could possibly drop 5-20%. Legalizing prostitution in California might have just saved 6 lives around UCSB.
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It's not even 20 - 100k. It's less tha 10k. A large % of those are over drugs and/or are gang related.priapism said:I'll take gun rights and take 20K-100K murders in the U.S. every year vs the next dictator purge which could possibly bein the 1 billion+ range. IMO, I think the next sociopathic dictator from a major power will be it for humanity. I'm not worried about guns, but worried about the various new WMDs which every country in the world will probably have within the next 100 years.
One short term solution to reduce murders is to legalize weed nationwide and the murder rate could possibly drop 5-20%. Legalizing prostitution in California might have just saved 6 lives around UCSB. -
LOL...like those bitches could handle a .45RoadDawg55 said:
If only those sorority girls and his roommates had a .45 attached to their hip. I never go anywhere without my 1911.
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The biggest chunk of gun related deaths is suicide. Then the chunk left over about 70-80% are gang related.MikeDamone said:
It's not even 20 - 100k. It's less tha 10k. A large % of those are over drugs and/or are gang related.priapism said:I'll take gun rights and take 20K-100K murders in the U.S. every year vs the next dictator purge which could possibly bein the 1 billion+ range. IMO, I think the next sociopathic dictator from a major power will be it for humanity. I'm not worried about guns, but worried about the various new WMDs which every country in the world will probably have within the next 100 years.
One short term solution to reduce murders is to legalize weed nationwide and the murder rate could possibly drop 5-20%. Legalizing prostitution in California might have just saved 6 lives around UCSB.
But when some rich completely psychotic kid shoots a few people is the only time you hear the issue come up. From 1980 to 2008 mass shootings accumulated for 1% of all total gun deaths in that time frame.
