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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    I'm just glad that at the end of the day at least someone was shot
  • SECDAWG
    SECDAWG Member Posts: 5,004
    Stand your ground means stand your ground. He stood his ground, as should be in every state.

    HTH.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,630 Standard Supporter

    I just assume everyone living in Albuquerque is dead on the inside already.

    an ex of mine lives there

    can confirm
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,630 Standard Supporter
    That cunt asked for it. I don't pretend to know the legality of it. But just from a common sense perspective, she continued to block him for a few seconds and clearly impeded him. It wasn't worth throwing a punch or being an animal and hitting her with a skateboard, but throwing her to the ground isn't all that out of line.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2020
    dnc said:

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    It's going to be a chinteresting adjudication.

    He deserved to get his ass beat
    You do realize that she's criminally assaulting him by pushing him, don't you? Whether his action was excessive or not, he had a right to push her away.
    Criminal assault?

    This is the snowflakiest post ever.

    Holy shit pull your tampon out man.
    Nevermind that it's the law.

    Sorry if that inconvenience interferes with your ignorance.
    There is nothing at all criminal about what she's doing.

    No DA in the country would take that case.

    IRYK

    STOp.
    You are wrong. But don't let me stop you.
    Okay make your argument. What exactly does she do to assault him. Put her arms out? Graze him with her shoulder? At what point in the video do her actions come anywhere near the line of criminality?
    Without legal authority or consent, intentionally contacts him at least twice, maintains her screen as he moves right to avoid her (doubling down on her obvious intent to block his path), impeding and restraining his ability to move in the path he desires, thereby denying him his well-recognized liberty interest to go where he wants.

    Argue it all day long, or learn this lesson: You can't block other people from going where they want to go on public property. It's against the law. So is touching a person without their consent.

    Sorry you didn't know this. Now you do.
    None of which constitutes criminal assault.
    This is not true in my state but you know, differences.

    What she's doing would be considered assault here. Would it get tossed in court? Probably. Would she get hauled off until then? Very possible. Especially if gender was out of the equation.

    You can't restrain people without their consent in a public place.

    Would he get hauled off too for his response? Definitely.

    This is all legal fluff but I can tell you how I know it from my state.

    His response was outsized. In turn, they were probably going to stab him and leave him for dead. Also outsized.

    Escalation is going to continue as long as the Dems in charge allow this shit. Probably part of their desire as then they can bring out the "right wing extremists" boogieman. They are already doing it. Look at the reporting on this case.
    You really think she is "restraining" him? That seems, umm, generous.

    We agree it would get tossed if it got that far.

    Any man who claimed to be assaulted by a woman who did that to him isn't much of a man.

    Agree completely there was escalation on multiple ends. Still think he earned an ass beating with that move. Just not a life threatening one.
    The people who write the laws have this idea in mind as they do so: Don't fuck with other people, keep your hands to yourself and don't take the law into your own hands.

    Escalation has been a human trait as long as we've walked upright and cops and courts don't want to be debating "Well, how hard did she touch him, exactly?" And "was it enough to warrant that response?" So, legislatures keep it simple and draw big fat black lines not to cross, such as "Don't put your hands on people" and "Do not block or impede a persons movement in a public space." There's also those pesky "liberty" interests we're born with in the USA, but I digress.

    Can it all become hyper-technical, sure? That's why you keep this shit simple with "Don't touch without consent or legal authority, period," and it begins in pre-schools with "Keep your Hands to Yourself."
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter

    That cunt asked for it. I don't pretend to know the legality of it. But just from a common sense perspective, she continued to block him for a few seconds and clearly impeded him. It wasn't worth throwing a punch or being an animal and hitting her with a skateboard, but throwing her to the ground isn't all that out of line.

    Chinn'd for going all-in on keeping a bitch in-line.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,792 Standard Supporter
    This whole other people can do what they want and you can't do shit to them stuff needs to end.

    I'm not judging this part of the video I'm just talking people in general these days. There used to be laws, and may still be, regarding language likely to incite violence etc. If they still exist they are not enforceable due to the courts and the erroneous belief you can say whatever the hell you want to people. People used to kick your ass if talked shit to them as it was considered wrong. You wouldn't get arrested because the puke deserved it.

    It's getting close to the point people are going to start fighting back, in groups. Sensible people only take so much shit and they become a bit insensible then look out! I've seen it lots of times when one asshole neighbor tortures the other neighbors.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    Well, it's all Academic now.

    CRIME AND INCIDENTS
    Prosecutor Drops Charge Against Suspect in New Mexico Protest Shooting
    BY ZACHARY STIEBER June 18, 2020 Updated: June 18, 2020
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/prosecutor-drops-charge-against-suspect-in-new-mexico-protest-shooting_3393163.html
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,792 Standard Supporter

    Well, it's all Academic now.

    CRIME AND INCIDENTS
    Prosecutor Drops Charge Against Suspect in New Mexico Protest Shooting
    BY ZACHARY STIEBER June 18, 2020 Updated: June 18, 2020
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/prosecutor-drops-charge-against-suspect-in-new-mexico-protest-shooting_3393163.html

    Shocker! He probably did shit he shouldn't have but he did shoot in self defense. Those people were looking to kill him not arrest him. They told him so.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2020

    Well, it's all Academic now.

    CRIME AND INCIDENTS
    Prosecutor Drops Charge Against Suspect in New Mexico Protest Shooting
    BY ZACHARY STIEBER June 18, 2020 Updated: June 18, 2020
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/prosecutor-drops-charge-against-suspect-in-new-mexico-protest-shooting_3393163.html

    The sauce
    https://news.wjct.org/post/suspect-shooting-albuquerque-statue-demonstration-faces-new-charges
    "I want to be very clear about our decision at this point," he said, adding that the investigation is ongoing and could result in additional charges against the onetime candidate for Albuquerque City Council and son of a former sheriff.

    For now the only charge related to the shooting is one count of unlawful carrying of a deadly weapon.

    "Records indicate that Mr. Baca did not have a lawful concealed carry permit," Torrez said in a press conference.

    The Investigation Changes Hands

    Separate from the shooting, the district attorney said video of the scene showed Baca struck and injured three female protesters and that he would face three charges of battery.

    Torrez also announced the Albuquerque Police Department agreed to hand over the investigation to New Mexico State Police at the request of the district attorney's office.

    "I specifically noted the presence of undercover officers who were referenced in the original complaint filed by [the Albuquerque Police Department] and the fact that while those officers are now key witnesses, they did not intervene and act to enforce the specific laws or prevent the shooting," Torrez said.

    He added, "More troubling, from our perspective, is the fact that after police and APD arrived at the scene, because of the dynamic situation and the tense situation that developed ... there were tactics that were used by the Albuquerque PD that made it impossible for key witnesses to the event to actually make statements."



    Seems pretty fair.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,049

    That cunt asked for it. I don't pretend to know the legality of it. But just from a common sense perspective, she continued to block him for a few seconds and clearly impeded him. It wasn't worth throwing a punch or being an animal and hitting her with a skateboard, but throwing her to the ground isn't all that out of line.


  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Also noted that the armed militia group who was protecting the statue is now in the process of being designated a “hate group”

    War is coming. And I’m almost ready. I need a couple moar weeks to heal up.

    The rest of you can pearl clutch about Sambos.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,120 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    Also noted that the armed militia group who was protecting the statue is now in the process of being designated a “hate group”

    War is coming. And I’m almost ready. I need a couple moar weeks to heal up.

    The rest of you can pearl clutch about Sambos.

    According to the Left half the country or more is a hate group.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,941 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    Also noted that the armed militia group who was protecting the statue is now in the process of being designated a “hate group”

    War is coming. And I’m almost ready. I need a couple moar weeks to heal up.

    The rest of you can pearl clutch about Sambos.

    Diner Lives Matter