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The difference is intent. Just unwanted touching can be an assault.
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I'll be sure to let him know a CUOG! from Salem Oregon has concerns about his son's welfare.salemcoog said:
Only Liberal fucktards take their kids to protests that always eventually get violent.creepycoug said:Post-script:
A colleague of mine ... let's just say a guy with a lot to lose ... wanted to make a point I guess and took his son to a protest. I told him I thought that was a bad idea for a guy who lives on Lake Washington. Let's take the boat out instead eh buddy?.
Of course, creep was right. Some asshole threw something ... forget what it was like a phone or thermos or some shit ... it his kid in the face and cracked an orbital bone. Not the end of the world, but not what he bargained for either.
The people who spend day after day doing this shit ... whether it's antifa or proud boys or something else ... are the "other" people. One should always keep that in mind. They don't have the same stake in an ordered society that we all have and thus act accordingly with any stimulant.
CSD needs to pay a visit. And you need less fucktarded friends. -
If you were emotionally involved you might have taken the trouble to avail yourself to the facts. You're a lazy emotionalist who doesn't bother to make yourself aware of the facts. I estimate your emotional involvement correctly.creepycoug said:
I don't trust you. And you do overestimate my emotional involvement - drastically so. And that's ok. It's a good rhetorical device to accuse the other guy of being hysterical. I use it with my wife all the tim, even when she's right.SFGbob said:
Trust me, you confusing your feelings for facts isn't me overestimating the value of your feelings.creepycoug said:
You drastically overestimate my feelings. My heart and feelings are for my wife and kids. My balls are for business, and this is business.SFGbob said:
Been there done that. You ignore everything I say and plough straight on with your fact free feelings.creepycoug said:
No. Since you seem to know more about it, then just spit it out. Like my friend, NW, I'm happy to be set straight and admit I was wrong. And "if only we had a system where both sides could present evidence" isn't spitting it out.SFGbob said:
See what I mean.creepycoug said:
Well, ostensibly he did shoot him because he was losing. I think even the members of the Zimmerman Fan Club say as much.NorthwestFresh said:
He also thinks that Zimmerman started the fight with Saint Skittles and then shot him because he was losing.SFGbob said:
But you do believe in beating a man unconscious and into a coma if he accidentally hits a kid that was playing in the street.HustlinOwl said:I'd want to see what caused the fight to break out. I don't think you should be able to start a fight with someone then shoot the guy when you start to get your ass kicked.
But I've never read anything in the transcript of that trial that established with any credible proof (in other words, more than George's version) who technically started the fight. Nobody was around for that besides George and Trayvon.
And, that night at least, he was Saint Skittles. There has never even been an allegation that he was doing anything wrong when George ID'd him as one of those "assholes who always get away."
If only there had been a trial where all of the evidence could have been presented. -
Never really thought of it as that. But I guess that works too.creepycoug said:
Based solely on that one clip - freely admit I've not seen others - no, I don't agree she's criminally assaulting him with that little shoulder nudge to get him off of her jock. I get bumped harder by little Asian women at the Holiday Lane parade in Bellevue. If she did something more before that, then maybe. But like I said - I literally get that much contact at the meet freezer at Costco.TurdBomber said:
You do realize that she's criminally assaulting him by pushing him, don't you? Whether his action was excessive or not, he had a right to push her away.dnc said:
He deserved to get his ass beatGrundleStiltzkin said:It's going to be a chinteresting adjudication.
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salemcoog said:
Many years ago when I played the blood sport of co Ed indoor soccer, I had a girl basically doing this to me for half of the game as I played keeper. Finally I had enough and let her drop step work and then hip checked her to the ground. She actually cried.GrundleStiltzkin said:It's going to be a chinteresting adjudication.
Of course she ignored the 23 other warnings I Gave her and I was the bad guy.
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I see your point. My sincerest apologies for taking so long. I'm a Cuog after all, so bear with me.SFGbob said:
Ignore all that, I have really strong feelings about what went down with that case and those feelings are more important than your pesky facts. Did you know the police ordered him not to chase Trademark?NorthwestFresh said:
If only there had been a trial with witnesses and stuff and an acquittal.SFGbob said:
See what I mean.creepycoug said:
Well, ostensibly he did shoot him because he was losing. I think even the members of the Zimmerman Fan Club say as much.NorthwestFresh said:
He also thinks that Zimmerman started the fight with Saint Skittles and then shot him because he was losing.SFGbob said:
But you do believe in beating a man unconscious and into a coma if he accidentally hits a kid that was playing in the street.HustlinOwl said:I'd want to see what caused the fight to break out. I don't think you should be able to start a fight with someone then shoot the guy when you start to get your ass kicked.
But I've never read anything in the transcript of that trial that established with any credible proof (in other words, more than George's version) who technically started the fight. Nobody was around for that besides George and Trayvon.
And, that night at least, he was Saint Skittles. There has never even been an allegation that he was doing anything wrong when George ID'd him as one of those "assholes who always get away."
The intellectually massive difference between police dispatch telling him "we don't need you to do that, ok" and a police order clears up the fog considerably. With this illuminating clarification, and the heavy breathing business, I now see it your way. -
You are incorrect sir. Your estimation is entirely inaccurate, unless you've managed to acquire that mind reading thing we used to talk about.SFGbob said:
If you were emotionally involved you might have taken the trouble to avail yourself to the facts. You're a lazy emotionalist who doesn't bother to make yourself aware of the facts. I estimate your emotional involvement correctly.creepycoug said:
I don't trust you. And you do overestimate my emotional involvement - drastically so. And that's ok. It's a good rhetorical device to accuse the other guy of being hysterical. I use it with my wife all the tim, even when she's right.SFGbob said:
Trust me, you confusing your feelings for facts isn't me overestimating the value of your feelings.creepycoug said:
You drastically overestimate my feelings. My heart and feelings are for my wife and kids. My balls are for business, and this is business.SFGbob said:
Been there done that. You ignore everything I say and plough straight on with your fact free feelings.creepycoug said:
No. Since you seem to know more about it, then just spit it out. Like my friend, NW, I'm happy to be set straight and admit I was wrong. And "if only we had a system where both sides could present evidence" isn't spitting it out.SFGbob said:
See what I mean.creepycoug said:
Well, ostensibly he did shoot him because he was losing. I think even the members of the Zimmerman Fan Club say as much.NorthwestFresh said:
He also thinks that Zimmerman started the fight with Saint Skittles and then shot him because he was losing.SFGbob said:
But you do believe in beating a man unconscious and into a coma if he accidentally hits a kid that was playing in the street.HustlinOwl said:I'd want to see what caused the fight to break out. I don't think you should be able to start a fight with someone then shoot the guy when you start to get your ass kicked.
But I've never read anything in the transcript of that trial that established with any credible proof (in other words, more than George's version) who technically started the fight. Nobody was around for that besides George and Trayvon.
And, that night at least, he was Saint Skittles. There has never even been an allegation that he was doing anything wrong when George ID'd him as one of those "assholes who always get away."
If only there had been a trial where all of the evidence could have been presented.
And, yes, I had to edit that. -
It's where I do my best work.Alexis said:
Never really thought of it as that. But I guess that works too.creepycoug said:
Based solely on that one clip - freely admit I've not seen others - no, I don't agree she's criminally assaulting him with that little shoulder nudge to get him off of her jock. I get bumped harder by little Asian women at the Holiday Lane parade in Bellevue. If she did something more before that, then maybe. But like I said - I literally get that much contact at the meet freezer at Costco.TurdBomber said:
You do realize that she's criminally assaulting him by pushing him, don't you? Whether his action was excessive or not, he had a right to push her away.dnc said:
He deserved to get his ass beatGrundleStiltzkin said:It's going to be a chinteresting adjudication.
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Unless it is Joe Biden getting handsy again.WestlinnDuck said:The difference is intent. Just unwanted touching can be an assault.
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I don't think you're going to get too far with that in that context. If he's managing to technically not touch her with what he was doing before she nudged her shoulder, it's a miracle, and in any event if we're being that nitpicky then we could also argue assault on his part because you don't need physical contact for that. You just need to reasonably be in apprehension of physical harm.WestlinnDuck said:The difference is intent. Just unwanted touching can be an assault.
No judge on the planet would do anything with what she did in that clip given what he was already doing.
