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  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    The way I see it is that he was not trying to touch her or assault her at all. He simply wanted around her and so she purposely stepped in his way with her arms stretched out and shoulder against him.

    I'm somewhere in the middle. It isn't something that warrants being dragged to the ground, but it's also not nothing either. It's an action that in my experience causes people to become agitated. Not victim blaming, so don't twist.

    Not twisting. But you and I, and every other mentally balanced adult, would have walked 5 or so yards in either direction away from her, or used a better first step, and just make our way around. Or, better yet, we wouldn't GAF and assess it wasn't worth engaging with someone in an already cranked up situation.

    I know guys like him. I think in all liklihood he was looking for a fight and wanted that shit to happen. Not the shoot-out. But the scuffle with the chick. He doesn't portray as the image of a normal person saying "excuse me. may I pass through? i'm just on my way."
    So what about the pack of goons that followed the guy and gang attacked him? Seems like a separate incident and I’m glad that black-clad LARPer with the backpack got shot. Oh well, do stupid shit, expect the worst. Kind of like your dipshit friend with the house on the lake taking his son out for a stroll into a riot.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    It's going to be a chinteresting adjudication.

    He deserved to get his ass beat
    You do realize that she's criminally assaulting him by pushing him, don't you? Whether his action was excessive or not, he had a right to push her away.
    Criminal assault?

    This is the snowflakiest post ever.

    Holy shit pull your tampon out man.
    Nevermind that it's the law.

    Sorry if that inconvenience interferes with your ignorance.
    There is nothing at all criminal about what she's doing.

    No DA in the country would take that case.

    IRYK

    STOp.
    You are wrong. But don't let me stop you.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    It's going to be a chinteresting adjudication.

    He deserved to get his ass beat
    You do realize that she's criminally assaulting him by pushing him, don't you? Whether his action was excessive or not, he had a right to push her away.
    Criminal assault?

    This is the snowflakiest post ever.

    Holy shit pull your tampon out man.
    Nevermind that it's the law.

    Sorry if that inconvenience interferes with your ignorance.
    There is nothing at all criminal about what she's doing.

    No DA in the country would take that case.

    IRYK

    STOp.
    You are wrong. But don't let me stop you.
    Okay make your argument. What exactly does she do to assault him. Put her arms out? Graze him with her shoulder? At what point in the video do her actions come anywhere near the line of criminality?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,271

    The way I see it is that he was not trying to touch her or assault her at all. He simply wanted around her and so she purposely stepped in his way with her arms stretched out and shoulder against him.

    I'm somewhere in the middle. It isn't something that warrants being dragged to the ground, but it's also not nothing either. It's an action that in my experience causes people to become agitated. Not victim blaming, so don't twist.

    Not twisting. But you and I, and every other mentally balanced adult, would have walked 5 or so yards in either direction away from her, or used a better first step, and just make our way around. Or, better yet, we wouldn't GAF and assess it wasn't worth engaging with someone in an already cranked up situation.

    I know guys like him. I think in all liklihood he was looking for a fight and wanted that shit to happen. Not the shoot-out. But the scuffle with the chick. He doesn't portray as the image of a normal person saying "excuse me. may I pass through? i'm just on my way."
    So what about the pack of goons that followed the guy and gang attacked him? Seems like a separate incident and I’m glad that black-clad LARPer with the backpack got shot. Oh well, do stupid shit, expect the worst. Kind of like your dipshit friend with the house on the lake taking his son out for a stroll into a riot.
    Yes, you join a pack of goons and start beating on someone who's running away from you and you bought what you get. Regardless of whether the guy is a tool.

    Not like my friend at all, who is anything but a dipshit. We all make mistakes.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,271

    dnc said:

    It's going to be a chinteresting adjudication.

    He deserved to get his ass beat
    You do realize that she's criminally assaulting him by pushing him, don't you? Whether his action was excessive or not, he had a right to push her away.
    Based solely on that one clip - freely admit I've not seen others - no, I don't agree she's criminally assaulting him with that little shoulder nudge to get him off of her jock. I get bumped harder by little Asian women at the Holiday Lane parade in Bellevue. If she did something more before that, then maybe. But like I said - I literally get that much contact at the meet freezer at Costco.
    Sorry Creep, but what she's doing is illegal and codified in the law. You can't "restrain" someone from going where they want to go. I wouldn't have done what the guy did, and as I stated, his force would probably be deemed unreasonable, subjecting him to charges of his own. She technically has no legal right to impede or restrain his movement.

    Why this matters is because it's happening daily, all over the CHAZ, and those ignorant fucks are breaking the law every time they step in front and make contact with people by pushing or grabbing them. A lot of CHAZ outsiders are missing Golden Opportunities to clock those skinny legged fucks every day, because they don't know the law. And that makes me sad.
    I was mostly responding to (triggered by) the notion that she had made some sort of very aggressive contact with him using her shoulder, which I didn't see as a big deal and certainly something you or I would have just walked away from.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    It's going to be a chinteresting adjudication.

    He deserved to get his ass beat
    You do realize that she's criminally assaulting him by pushing him, don't you? Whether his action was excessive or not, he had a right to push her away.
    Criminal assault?

    This is the snowflakiest post ever.

    Holy shit pull your tampon out man.
    Nevermind that it's the law.

    Sorry if that inconvenience interferes with your ignorance.
    There is nothing at all criminal about what she's doing.

    No DA in the country would take that case.

    IRYK

    STOp.
    You are wrong. But don't let me stop you.
    Okay make your argument. What exactly does she do to assault him. Put her arms out? Graze him with her shoulder? At what point in the video do her actions come anywhere near the line of criminality?
    Without legal authority or consent, intentionally contacts him at least twice, maintains her screen as he moves right to avoid her (doubling down on her obvious intent to block his path), impeding and restraining his ability to move in the path he desires, thereby denying him his well-recognized liberty interest to go where he wants.

    Argue it all day long, or learn this lesson: You can't block other people from going where they want to go on public property. It's against the law. So is touching a person without their consent.

    Sorry you didn't know this. Now you do.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    It's going to be a chinteresting adjudication.

    He deserved to get his ass beat
    You do realize that she's criminally assaulting him by pushing him, don't you? Whether his action was excessive or not, he had a right to push her away.
    Criminal assault?

    This is the snowflakiest post ever.

    Holy shit pull your tampon out man.
    Nevermind that it's the law.

    Sorry if that inconvenience interferes with your ignorance.
    There is nothing at all criminal about what she's doing.

    No DA in the country would take that case.

    IRYK

    STOp.
    You are wrong. But don't let me stop you.
    Okay make your argument. What exactly does she do to assault him. Put her arms out? Graze him with her shoulder? At what point in the video do her actions come anywhere near the line of criminality?
    Without legal authority or consent, intentionally contacts him at least twice, maintains her screen as he moves right to avoid her (doubling down on her obvious intent to block his path), impeding and restraining his ability to move in the path he desires, thereby denying him his well-recognized liberty interest to go where he wants.

    Argue it all day long, or learn this lesson: You can't block other people from going where they want to go on public property. It's against the law. So is touching a person without their consent.

    Sorry you didn't know this. Now you do.
    None of which constitutes criminal assault.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    It's going to be a chinteresting adjudication.

    He deserved to get his ass beat
    You do realize that she's criminally assaulting him by pushing him, don't you? Whether his action was excessive or not, he had a right to push her away.
    Criminal assault?

    This is the snowflakiest post ever.

    Holy shit pull your tampon out man.
    Nevermind that it's the law.

    Sorry if that inconvenience interferes with your ignorance.
    There is nothing at all criminal about what she's doing.

    No DA in the country would take that case.

    IRYK

    STOp.
    You are wrong. But don't let me stop you.
    Okay make your argument. What exactly does she do to assault him. Put her arms out? Graze him with her shoulder? At what point in the video do her actions come anywhere near the line of criminality?
    Without legal authority or consent, intentionally contacts him at least twice, maintains her screen as he moves right to avoid her (doubling down on her obvious intent to block his path), impeding and restraining his ability to move in the path he desires, thereby denying him his well-recognized liberty interest to go where he wants.

    Argue it all day long, or learn this lesson: You can't block other people from going where they want to go on public property. It's against the law. So is touching a person without their consent.

    Sorry you didn't know this. Now you do.
    None of which constitutes criminal assault.
    Sounds like Dazzler's got himself a future partner. Or client.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    dnc said:

    It's going to be a chinteresting adjudication.

    He deserved to get his ass beat
    You do realize that she's criminally assaulting him by pushing him, don't you? Whether his action was excessive or not, he had a right to push her away.
    Based solely on that one clip - freely admit I've not seen others - no, I don't agree she's criminally assaulting him with that little shoulder nudge to get him off of her jock. I get bumped harder by little Asian women at the Holiday Lane parade in Bellevue. If she did something more before that, then maybe. But like I said - I literally get that much contact at the meet freezer at Costco.
    Sorry Creep, but what she's doing is illegal and codified in the law. You can't "restrain" someone from going where they want to go. I wouldn't have done what the guy did, and as I stated, his force would probably be deemed unreasonable, subjecting him to charges of his own. She technically has no legal right to impede or restrain his movement.

    Why this matters is because it's happening daily, all over the CHAZ, and those ignorant fucks are breaking the law every time they step in front and make contact with people by pushing or grabbing them. A lot of CHAZ outsiders are missing Golden Opportunities to clock those skinny legged fucks every day, because they don't know the law. And that makes me sad.
    I was mostly responding to (triggered by) the notion that she had made some sort of very aggressive contact with him using her shoulder, which I didn't see as a big deal and certainly something you or I would have just walked away from.
    You would have. Turd Eater would have shrieked in a high pitch that she'd committed criminal assault.