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Penn State scored 38 vs Ohio State even tho Barkley only had 44 yards and 2.1 per carry. He was a good college QB until his senior year without the weapons. The answer is in the middle. He wasn’t the reason they were in the Fiesta.backthepack said:
I’ve watched every game of moorehead’s tenure at Pedo. Mcsorley fucking sucks. He missed a gazillion throws. He was the reason that team was in the fiesta and not the playoffshaie said:
Who gives a fuck about the NFL? Rewatch the Fiesta bowl. Watch how he has his outlet in mind the whole time while looking for the deep threat, and outfoxes UW defense and gets the 3rd down conversion seemingly 100 FUCKING TIMES that game. Watch what he does with his feet. Uncoachable.backthepack said:
His arm was so bad he got converted to safety in the NFL. The only reason was effective was because he Desean Hamilton, Barkley, and Geisicki. He fucking suckshaie said:
If anyone downplays this player and pumps up Barkley when talking about Penn St. they didn't see them live at the Fiesta.Quietcowskee said:#ourtrace
I can't describe what a "gamer" is, but I know it when I see it and this qb made every correct decision, was lightning fast in every decision he made, and was smart enough to pick up the 1st down when available and knew when to take shots as well. Could run, throw accurately on the run, and sits in the pocket like he kept his switch and bong in there. That is the only true dismantling of UWs K/Lake defense I've ever seen, maybe a distant second is Stanford in 2017 but still doesn't come close to what McSorely accomplished and I don't even think he needed Barkley to do it.
To march down the field like that against 2017 UW and Vita Vea is amazing. Barkley's TD simply took advantage of that situation.
That game was a blueprint for other teams beating us in 18 and 19. -
Barkley opened the game with a kick return TD.RoadDawg55 said:
Penn State scored 38 vs Ohio State even tho Barkley only had 44 yards and 2.1 per carry. He was a good college QB until his senior year without the weapons. The answer is in the middle. He wasn’t the reason they were in the Fiesta.backthepack said:
I’ve watched every game of moorehead’s tenure at Pedo. Mcsorley fucking sucks. He missed a gazillion throws. He was the reason that team was in the fiesta and not the playoffshaie said:
Who gives a fuck about the NFL? Rewatch the Fiesta bowl. Watch how he has his outlet in mind the whole time while looking for the deep threat, and outfoxes UW defense and gets the 3rd down conversion seemingly 100 FUCKING TIMES that game. Watch what he does with his feet. Uncoachable.backthepack said:
His arm was so bad he got converted to safety in the NFL. The only reason was effective was because he Desean Hamilton, Barkley, and Geisicki. He fucking suckshaie said:
If anyone downplays this player and pumps up Barkley when talking about Penn St. they didn't see them live at the Fiesta.Quietcowskee said:#ourtrace
I can't describe what a "gamer" is, but I know it when I see it and this qb made every correct decision, was lightning fast in every decision he made, and was smart enough to pick up the 1st down when available and knew when to take shots as well. Could run, throw accurately on the run, and sits in the pocket like he kept his switch and bong in there. That is the only true dismantling of UWs K/Lake defense I've ever seen, maybe a distant second is Stanford in 2017 but still doesn't come close to what McSorely accomplished and I don't even think he needed Barkley to do it.
To march down the field like that against 2017 UW and Vita Vea is amazing. Barkley's TD simply took advantage of that situation.
That game was a blueprint for other teams beating us in 18 and 19.
Two of Penn State’s four offensive TDS were 23 yard long “drives”.
McSorely threw for 192 yards at 6.6 ypa. Meh. He did make some plays happen with his legs.
OSU dominated both sides of the ball. PSU was lucky to be in it at all. -
He doesn't have that god awful slingshot throwing motion that Haener has. Not saying he has a cannon, but he still has way more natural arm talent the fucking midget.
His accuracy seems really bad from what little I've seen, but at least he seems to protect the ball well compared to the last three boneheads we've started. -
McSorely was really good and I would definitely classify him as a "gamer". However people forget that the reason Sam Darnold lived for moments like the 2017 Rose Bowl is McSorely threw 3 INTs including a killer one in the 4th as PSU blew a 14 point 4th quarter lead. His Q4 stats were 1 sack, 1-4, 1 yard, 1 INT on his last pass with the game tied which USC returned to FG range to win the game. PSU put the ball in Saquon's hands to try to win the game and as soon as it went to McSorely he shat himself.
Without McSorely's 2 INTs in the Fiesta we lose by a lot more than 7.
One of my great What-Ifs from 2016 is what if McSorely didn't fumble twice and throw an INT against Pitt in the 2nd game of their season, so they don't go down by 21 and instead win that game (which they lost by 3), and PSU finishes 12-1 instead of 11-2, and we have 5 one-loss teams. Washington probably does not make the playoff (tOSU picked over us despite not winning Big 10, with much better schedule and the committee ranked them ahead of us), we go to Rose and play... uhh I guess Wisconsin. And whole playoff criteria is an uproar because a team with the same number of losses was picked over a conference champion. -
RIP @RhythmicSlappingDawgbackthepack said:
I’ve watched every game of moorehead’s tenure at Pedo. Mcsorley fucking sucks. He missed a gazillion throws. He was the reason that team was in the fiesta and not the playoffshaie said:
Who gives a fuck about the NFL? Rewatch the Fiesta bowl. Watch how he has his outlet in mind the whole time while looking for the deep threat, and outfoxes UW defense and gets the 3rd down conversion seemingly 100 FUCKING TIMES that game. Watch what he does with his feet. Uncoachable.backthepack said:
His arm was so bad he got converted to safety in the NFL. The only reason was effective was because he Desean Hamilton, Barkley, and Geisicki. He fucking suckshaie said:
If anyone downplays this player and pumps up Barkley when talking about Penn St. they didn't see them live at the Fiesta.Quietcowskee said:#ourtrace
I can't describe what a "gamer" is, but I know it when I see it and this qb made every correct decision, was lightning fast in every decision he made, and was smart enough to pick up the 1st down when available and knew when to take shots as well. Could run, throw accurately on the run, and sits in the pocket like he kept his switch and bong in there. That is the only true dismantling of UWs K/Lake defense I've ever seen, maybe a distant second is Stanford in 2017 but still doesn't come close to what McSorely accomplished and I don't even think he needed Barkley to do it.
To march down the field like that against 2017 UW and Vita Vea is amazing. Barkley's TD simply took advantage of that situation.
That game was a blueprint for other teams beating us in 18 and 19. -
Here he is post Tommy John in 2016 when he was leaving UNLV. Nice quick release.
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BTPFS
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His stats and size are basically the same as Prukop. Does that mean he'll be benched in favor of a true frosh a few games into the season and the frosh will lose 70-21 to their arch rival in his first start?
Size
Prukop: 6'2, 205lbs
Thomson: 6'1, 205lbs
Final year at FCS
Prukop: 3025 passing yards, 28 TDs, 10 INTs, 797 rushing yards, 11 TDs
Thomson: 3212 passing yards, 27 TDs, 8 INTs, 619 rushing yards, 12 TDs -
I know Prukop is a punchline, but that team’s obvious weakness was its Brady Hoke-coached defense. Colossal fucking joke.insinceredawg said:His stats and size are basically the same as Prukop. Does that mean he'll be benched in favor of a true frosh a few games into the season and the frosh will lose 70-21 to their arch rival in his first start?
Size
Prukop: 6'2, 205lbs
Thomson: 6'1, 205lbs
Final year at FCS
Prukop: 3025 passing yards, 28 TDs, 10 INTs, 797 rushing yards, 11 TDs
Thomson: 3212 passing yards, 27 TDs, 8 INTs, 619 rushing yards, 12 TDs
Prukop’s stats are good and he was benched to make way for youth in a throwaway season.
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Prukop was more accurate though, 62.8% to 58.7%. And far better yards per attempt 8.8 to 7.2insinceredawg said:His stats and size are basically the same as Prukop. Does that mean he'll be benched in favor of a true frosh a few games into the season and the frosh will lose 70-21 to their arch rival in his first start?
Size
Prukop: 6'2, 205lbs
Thomson: 6'1, 205lbs
Final year at FCS
Prukop: 3025 passing yards, 28 TDs, 10 INTs, 797 rushing yards, 11 TDs
Thomson: 3212 passing yards, 27 TDs, 8 INTs, 619 rushing yards, 12 TDs
Thomson is a poor man's Prukop. -
Who is McSorley? He poast here?
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On Thomson's completion percentage, I haven't looked closely enough to verify this but his former coaches are quoted saying that they ran a lot of play action, deep pass stuff. If that's true, a lower completion percentage needs to be taken with a grain of salt. His yards per attempt doesn't really back that up, though. Maybe one of the TBS'ers with no life will spend more time looking in to that.
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I did a little digging and something happened at the end of the season last year, his stats dropped off hard and was either benched or injured for a game.dnc said:
Prukop was more accurate though, 62.8% to 58.7%. And far better yards per attempt 8.8 to 7.2insinceredawg said:His stats and size are basically the same as Prukop. Does that mean he'll be benched in favor of a true frosh a few games into the season and the frosh will lose 70-21 to their arch rival in his first start?
Size
Prukop: 6'2, 205lbs
Thomson: 6'1, 205lbs
Final year at FCS
Prukop: 3025 passing yards, 28 TDs, 10 INTs, 797 rushing yards, 11 TDs
Thomson: 3212 passing yards, 27 TDs, 8 INTs, 619 rushing yards, 12 TDs
Thomson is a poor man's Prukop.
The first game he struggled against Weber State the box score indicates he split snaps, then he didn't play at all the next week, then finishes off the season with a playoff loss.
It's fair to note Sac State is an absolute garbage program, so making the playoffs is a pretty big deal and bodes well for the winners win crowd. -
Take a look at the two vids posted by Neighbor. I think both represent every play of the game where he didn't hand off. They did run a lot of PA and he was looking downfield a lot.BleachedAnusDawg said:On Thomson's completion percentage, I haven't looked closely enough to verify this but his former coaches are quoted saying that they ran a lot of play action, deep pass stuff. If that's true, a lower completion percentage needs to be taken with a grain of salt. His yards per attempt doesn't really back that up, though. Maybe one of the TBS'ers with no life will spend more time looking in to that.
They were not a good looking team and were pretty overmatched in the first one. He makes a couple of great throws, but was off the mark on some open guys and made a few horrible decisions. These looked to be out of desperation as their offense was getting abused at times. -
That's why I included yards per attempt.BleachedAnusDawg said:On Thomson's completion percentage, I haven't looked closely enough to verify this but his former coaches are quoted saying that they ran a lot of play action, deep pass stuff. If that's true, a lower completion percentage needs to be taken with a grain of salt. His yards per attempt doesn't really back that up, though. Maybe one of the TBS'ers with no life will spend more time looking in to that.
He could have had a shit OL and/or receivers that help explain it somewhat but you want a Krukop level yards per attempt if you're going to be running a completion percentage under 60, especially at a lower level. -
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He's pretty ripped looking for a QB.dnc said:
Maybe he'll surprise me. I know he's a good athlete and has plenty of arm. Maybe that shit bag team he was playing on just held him back.
Sirmon better have made some big strides or this guy will easily steal the job on the strength of his versatility. The situation is ripe for a flawed QB like this who can be a threat to make things happen when the offense as a whole isn't working right. -
I’d probably feel better if this guy starts against Michigan. I could see them eating Sirmon alive.
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The thing is, we are bringing back a strong enough supporting cast (we're in the magic blue chip range now and at every position we have either returning starters or blue chip recruits next up) that if they can get SOLID play from just one of these guys, we will likely have a very good season. They dont even have to be All-American level. Just have decent accuracy and timing, be able to diagnose blitzes, and dont make game changing bonehead mistakes. You have 3 4* guys to pick from along with an all-American FCS grad transfer. You should be able to get above average play from one of those guys. If it's the transfer, so be itchuck said:
He's pretty ripped looking for a QB.dnc said:
Maybe he'll surprise me. I know he's a good athlete and has plenty of arm. Maybe that shit bag team he was playing on just held him back.
Sirmon better have made some big strides or this guy will easily steal the job on the strength of his versatility. The situation is ripe for a flawed QB like this who can be a threat to make things happen when the offense as a whole isn't working right. -
Whoa. Is that really you?bananasnblondes said:
The thing is, we are bringing back a strong enough supporting cast (we're in the magic blue chip range now and at every position we have either returning starters or blue chip recruits next up) that if they can get SOLID play from just one of these guys, we will likely have a very good season. They dont even have to be All-American level. Just have decent accuracy and timing, be able to diagnose blitzes, and dont make game changing bonehead mistakes. You have 3 4* guys to pick from along with an all-American FCS grad transfer. You should be able to get above average play from one of those guys. If it's the transfer, so be itchuck said:
He's pretty ripped looking for a QB.dnc said:
Maybe he'll surprise me. I know he's a good athlete and has plenty of arm. Maybe that shit bag team he was playing on just held him back.
Sirmon better have made some big strides or this guy will easily steal the job on the strength of his versatility. The situation is ripe for a flawed QB like this who can be a threat to make things happen when the offense as a whole isn't working right. -
I'm big on the talent we have and I've been called a doog for being somewhat optimistic about our qb situation. I am not fond of our recruiting efforts and mismanagement right now. Im not sure how one could be.CallMeBigErn said:
Whoa. Is that really you?bananasnblondes said:
The thing is, we are bringing back a strong enough supporting cast (we're in the magic blue chip range now and at every position we have either returning starters or blue chip recruits next up) that if they can get SOLID play from just one of these guys, we will likely have a very good season. They dont even have to be All-American level. Just have decent accuracy and timing, be able to diagnose blitzes, and dont make game changing bonehead mistakes. You have 3 4* guys to pick from along with an all-American FCS grad transfer. You should be able to get above average play from one of those guys. If it's the transfer, so be itchuck said:
He's pretty ripped looking for a QB.dnc said:
Maybe he'll surprise me. I know he's a good athlete and has plenty of arm. Maybe that shit bag team he was playing on just held him back.
Sirmon better have made some big strides or this guy will easily steal the job on the strength of his versatility. The situation is ripe for a flawed QB like this who can be a threat to make things happen when the offense as a whole isn't working right. -
If anything having a backup QB that knows what a weight room looks like would be an improvement.chuck said:
He's pretty ripped looking for a QB.dnc said:
Maybe he'll surprise me. I know he's a good athlete and has plenty of arm. Maybe that shit bag team he was playing on just held him back.
Sirmon better have made some big strides or this guy will easily steal the job on the strength of his versatility. The situation is ripe for a flawed QB like this who can be a threat to make things happen when the offense as a whole isn't working right.
The work-ethic has been horrid and entitlement off the charts for the QB room since Price left. -
well damn - if we were playing ASU this year we might have a chance
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That game was so god damn frustrating to watch. Defense looked fine on 1st and 2nd down, and then McSorley would carve them up on 3rd down. There was one point where PSU converted something like 10 or 11 3rd downs in a row, if memory serves me correctly.haie said:
Who gives a fuck about the NFL? Rewatch the Fiesta bowl. Watch how he has his outlet in mind the whole time while looking for the deep threat, and outfoxes UW defense and gets the 3rd down conversion seemingly 100 FUCKING TIMES that game. Watch what he does with his feet. Uncoachable.backthepack said:
His arm was so bad he got converted to safety in the NFL. The only reason was effective was because he Desean Hamilton, Barkley, and Geisicki. He fucking suckshaie said:
If anyone downplays this player and pumps up Barkley when talking about Penn St. they didn't see them live at the Fiesta.Quietcowskee said:#ourtrace
I can't describe what a "gamer" is, but I know it when I see it and this qb made every correct decision, was lightning fast in every decision he made, and was smart enough to pick up the 1st down when available and knew when to take shots as well. Could run, throw accurately on the run, and sits in the pocket like he kept his switch and bong in there. That is the only true dismantling of UWs K/Lake defense I've ever seen, maybe a distant second is Stanford in 2017 but still doesn't come close to what McSorely accomplished and I don't even think he needed Barkley to do it.
To march down the field like that against 2017 UW and Vita Vea is amazing. Barkley's TD simply took advantage of that situation.
That game was a blueprint for other teams beating us in 18 and 19. -
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That is there thinking as well which is why losing KJ to Leach was a big blow. I'm more concerned about the OL than I am about the QB position honestly.bananasnblondes said:
The thing is, we are bringing back a strong enough supporting cast (we're in the magic blue chip range now and at every position we have either returning starters or blue chip recruits next up) that if they can get SOLID play from just one of these guys, we will likely have a very good season. They dont even have to be All-American level. Just have decent accuracy and timing, be able to diagnose blitzes, and dont make game changing bonehead mistakes. You have 3 4* guys to pick from along with an all-American FCS grad transfer. You should be able to get above average play from one of those guys. If it's the transfer, so be itchuck said:
He's pretty ripped looking for a QB.dnc said:
Maybe he'll surprise me. I know he's a good athlete and has plenty of arm. Maybe that shit bag team he was playing on just held him back.
Sirmon better have made some big strides or this guy will easily steal the job on the strength of his versatility. The situation is ripe for a flawed QB like this who can be a threat to make things happen when the offense as a whole isn't working right. -
That surprises me a bit. I know they're not game seasoned, but UW hasnt had such a large number of upper tier OL prospects since I've been paying close attention. There are enough bodies in at least their second year that you'd think they can assemble a solid to good line out of it.sonics1993 said:
That is there thinking as well which is why losing KJ to Leach was a big blow. I'm more concerned about the OL than I am about the QB position honestly.bananasnblondes said:
The thing is, we are bringing back a strong enough supporting cast (we're in the magic blue chip range now and at every position we have either returning starters or blue chip recruits next up) that if they can get SOLID play from just one of these guys, we will likely have a very good season. They dont even have to be All-American level. Just have decent accuracy and timing, be able to diagnose blitzes, and dont make game changing bonehead mistakes. You have 3 4* guys to pick from along with an all-American FCS grad transfer. You should be able to get above average play from one of those guys. If it's the transfer, so be itchuck said:
He's pretty ripped looking for a QB.dnc said:
Maybe he'll surprise me. I know he's a good athlete and has plenty of arm. Maybe that shit bag team he was playing on just held him back.
Sirmon better have made some big strides or this guy will easily steal the job on the strength of his versatility. The situation is ripe for a flawed QB like this who can be a threat to make things happen when the offense as a whole isn't working right. -
Probably going to have five new starters as I believe Kirkland will move over to left tackle and Luke will play center. Limited practice hurts OL the most since they all five need to be in sync and with five new starters that will be a challenge. And then there is Huff and his questionable coaching. Go back and watch the last few games, our OL was awful and Eason was getting killed whenever he dropped back to pass. So while we definitely have talent in that room, the lack of experience along with the lack of practice time along with Huff's questionable coaching has me worried.chuck said:
That surprises me a bit. I know they're not game seasoned, but UW hasnt had such a large number of upper tier OL prospects since I've been paying close attention. There are enough bodies in at least their second year that you'd think they can assemble a solid to good line out of it.sonics1993 said:
That is there thinking as well which is why losing KJ to Leach was a big blow. I'm more concerned about the OL than I am about the QB position honestly.bananasnblondes said:
The thing is, we are bringing back a strong enough supporting cast (we're in the magic blue chip range now and at every position we have either returning starters or blue chip recruits next up) that if they can get SOLID play from just one of these guys, we will likely have a very good season. They dont even have to be All-American level. Just have decent accuracy and timing, be able to diagnose blitzes, and dont make game changing bonehead mistakes. You have 3 4* guys to pick from along with an all-American FCS grad transfer. You should be able to get above average play from one of those guys. If it's the transfer, so be itchuck said:
He's pretty ripped looking for a QB.dnc said:
Maybe he'll surprise me. I know he's a good athlete and has plenty of arm. Maybe that shit bag team he was playing on just held him back.
Sirmon better have made some big strides or this guy will easily steal the job on the strength of his versatility. The situation is ripe for a flawed QB like this who can be a threat to make things happen when the offense as a whole isn't working right. -
Copy. It's not that the players arent there so much as whether or not they'll be well coached and ready as a unit. Makes sense.sonics1993 said:
Probably going to have five new starters as I believe Kirkland will move over to left tackle and Luke will play center. Limited practice hurts OL the most since they all five need to be in sync and with five new starters that will be a challenge. And then there is Huff and his questionable coaching. Go back and watch the last few games, our OL was awful and Eason was getting killed whenever he dropped back to pass. So while we definitely have talent in that room, the lack of experience along with the lack of practice time along with Huff's questionable coaching has me worried.chuck said:
That surprises me a bit. I know they're not game seasoned, but UW hasnt had such a large number of upper tier OL prospects since I've been paying close attention. There are enough bodies in at least their second year that you'd think they can assemble a solid to good line out of it.sonics1993 said:
That is there thinking as well which is why losing KJ to Leach was a big blow. I'm more concerned about the OL than I am about the QB position honestly.bananasnblondes said:
The thing is, we are bringing back a strong enough supporting cast (we're in the magic blue chip range now and at every position we have either returning starters or blue chip recruits next up) that if they can get SOLID play from just one of these guys, we will likely have a very good season. They dont even have to be All-American level. Just have decent accuracy and timing, be able to diagnose blitzes, and dont make game changing bonehead mistakes. You have 3 4* guys to pick from along with an all-American FCS grad transfer. You should be able to get above average play from one of those guys. If it's the transfer, so be itchuck said:
He's pretty ripped looking for a QB.dnc said:
Maybe he'll surprise me. I know he's a good athlete and has plenty of arm. Maybe that shit bag team he was playing on just held him back.
Sirmon better have made some big strides or this guy will easily steal the job on the strength of his versatility. The situation is ripe for a flawed QB like this who can be a threat to make things happen when the offense as a whole isn't working right. -
What are you hearing about the young guys?sonics1993 said:
Probably going to have five new starters as I believe Kirkland will move over to left tackle and Luke will play center. Limited practice hurts OL the most since they all five need to be in sync and with five new starters that will be a challenge. And then there is Huff and his questionable coaching. Go back and watch the last few games, our OL was awful and Eason was getting killed whenever he dropped back to pass. So while we definitely have talent in that room, the lack of experience along with the lack of practice time along with Huff's questionable coaching has me worried.chuck said:
That surprises me a bit. I know they're not game seasoned, but UW hasnt had such a large number of upper tier OL prospects since I've been paying close attention. There are enough bodies in at least their second year that you'd think they can assemble a solid to good line out of it.sonics1993 said:
That is there thinking as well which is why losing KJ to Leach was a big blow. I'm more concerned about the OL than I am about the QB position honestly.bananasnblondes said:
The thing is, we are bringing back a strong enough supporting cast (we're in the magic blue chip range now and at every position we have either returning starters or blue chip recruits next up) that if they can get SOLID play from just one of these guys, we will likely have a very good season. They dont even have to be All-American level. Just have decent accuracy and timing, be able to diagnose blitzes, and dont make game changing bonehead mistakes. You have 3 4* guys to pick from along with an all-American FCS grad transfer. You should be able to get above average play from one of those guys. If it's the transfer, so be itchuck said:
He's pretty ripped looking for a QB.dnc said:
Maybe he'll surprise me. I know he's a good athlete and has plenty of arm. Maybe that shit bag team he was playing on just held him back.
Sirmon better have made some big strides or this guy will easily steal the job on the strength of his versatility. The situation is ripe for a flawed QB like this who can be a threat to make things happen when the offense as a whole isn't working right.
