I think basketball today was superior to what it was back then but I don’t think the difference is as big as it looks.
Watching them back then definitely looks like dreck but I think they were a lot better than this dude on Twitter is suggesting.
Today’s dribbling is massively more aesthetically pleasing for sure but there’s a very good reason for that. The big thing is that back then they called travels and (especially) carries. There’s a reason they quit calling them, the game is prettier and more exciting without them. But playing under those rules is a major handcuff.
And yes they couldn’t shoot half as good back then but they didn’t grow up with a three point line. Take those players and have them born in 1998 and they’d be significantly better shooters too.
I think basketball today was superior to what it was back then but I don’t think the difference is as big as it looks.
Watching them back then definitely looks like dreck but I think they were a lot better than this dude on Twitter is suggesting.
Today’s dribbling is massively more aesthetically pleasing for sure but there’s a very good reason for that. The big thing is that back then they called travels and (especially) carries. There’s a reason they quit calling them, the game is prettier and more exciting without them. But playing under those rules is a major handcuff.
And yes they couldn’t shoot half as good back then but they didn’t grow up with a three point line. Take those players and have them born in 1998 and they’d be significantly better shooters too.
It’s just a different game.
Disagree. The Throbber can stroke it (heh heh) as well as any youngster and just as deep.
Just can't softly drop in at the rim like the Iceman these days. More like net level.
I watched the 1993 Western Semis last week between Seattle and Houston. Game 7
The game is completely different. It was changing at that time thanks to Michael but Hakeem and Ewing still made most teams think they needed a big man regardless if he could play or not.
There is no one like the best of the best in any era as a regular guy today. They are a JAG in any era. But not wasting 20% of your lineup on a stiff who can't play did help the game immensely.
At any rate that was a good ball game. Gary and Shawn weren't the leaders yet. It was Eddie Johnson. Ricky Pierce and other vets. And the most frustrating player ever - D McKey
Mad Max for the Rockets. They played a similar game to today. Throw it in to Hakeem and stand at the three point line
I watched the 1993 Western Semis last week between Seattle and Houston. Game 7
The game is completely different. It was changing at that time thanks to Michael but Hakeem and Ewing still made most teams think they needed a big man regardless if he could play or not.
There is no one like the best of the best in any era as a regular guy today. They are a JAG in any era. But not wasting 20% of your lineup on a stiff who can't play did help the game immensely.
At any rate that was a good ball game. Gary and Shawn weren't the leaders yet. It was Eddie Johnson. Ricky Pierce and other vets. And the most frustrating player ever - D McKey
Mad Max for the Rockets. They played a similar game to today. Throw it in to Hakeem and stand at the three point line
Make all the excuses you want, the tape don’t lie.
You mean the videos you didnt watch dispelling your notion the 80's guys 'literally can't pass or dribble'?
Did we watch the same videos???
And I never said they couldn’t pass. I said they couldn’t shoot. And they definitely can’t dribble. Your boy Pistol was such a standout by comparison for a reason.
Cmon man...it’s not an indictment on you personally. It’s just the evolution of the game/skills/etc. Happens everywhere.
Can you imagine Babe Ruth having to hit against modern pitchers?
I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.
If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.
So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.
That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.
Then watch now.
It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).
Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.
Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.
But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?
I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.
If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.
So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.
That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.
Then watch now.
It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).
Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.
Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.
But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?
I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.
If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.
So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.
That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.
Then watch now.
It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).
Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.
Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.
But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?
I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.
If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.
So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.
That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.
Then watch now.
It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).
Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.
Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.
But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?
I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.
If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.
So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.
That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.
Then watch now.
It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).
Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.
Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.
But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?
I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.
If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.
So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.
That’s not how this works. Watch people dribble and shoot in the 80s and before.
Then watch now.
It’s not just the strength and conditioning difference (which is considerable).
Guys literally can’t shoot OR dribble.
Sure they can take an elbow in the face and get back up, but so what? Nobody in their right mind thinks basketball is some full contact blood sport with a ball thrown in.
But if it was, I’m pretty sure LeBron James would be even more dominant. Can you imagine Isaih Thomas trying to tackle LeBron going to the hoop?
I don't like the athleticism argument. Obviously players of today are more athletic...they've had the advantage of growing up in a time when there's better knowledge and equipment for sports training and performance.
If Michael Jordan had been born in 1995, he'd be stronger, faster, and better at the game today than he was when he was actually 25 due to all those advantages.
So if you want to take an older player and compare him with today's players, you have to take into account that the older player would be improved if he was born in a more modern era.
I heard John Salley interviewed a few years ago. He talked about getting on the team bus after games and seeing 7-8 guys eating McDonald's for their post-game meals.
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Watching them back then definitely looks like dreck but I think they were a lot better than this dude on Twitter is suggesting.
Today’s dribbling is massively more aesthetically pleasing for sure but there’s a very good reason for that. The big thing is that back then they called travels and (especially) carries. There’s a reason they quit calling them, the game is prettier and more exciting without them. But playing under those rules is a major handcuff.
And yes they couldn’t shoot half as good back then but they didn’t grow up with a three point line. Take those players and have them born in 1998 and they’d be significantly better shooters too.
It’s just a different game.
Just can't softly drop in at the rim like the Iceman these days. More like net level.
But I can still finger.roll.
The game is completely different. It was changing at that time thanks to Michael but Hakeem and Ewing still made most teams think they needed a big man regardless if he could play or not.
There is no one like the best of the best in any era as a regular guy today. They are a JAG in any era. But not wasting 20% of your lineup on a stiff who can't play did help the game immensely.
At any rate that was a good ball game. Gary and Shawn weren't the leaders yet. It was Eddie Johnson. Ricky Pierce and other vets. And the most frustrating player ever - D McKey
Mad Max for the Rockets. They played a similar game to today. Throw it in to Hakeem and stand at the three point line
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And I never said they couldn’t pass. I said they couldn’t shoot. And they definitely can’t dribble. Your boy Pistol was such a standout by comparison for a reason.
Cmon man...it’s not an indictment on you personally. It’s just the evolution of the game/skills/etc. Happens everywhere.
Can you imagine Babe Ruth having to hit against modern pitchers?
Turned his back to pressure.
dribbled with his inside hand etc.