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Massive and frequent testing is our only way out of this

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  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,401 Swaye's Wigwam
    dflea said:

    lol

    We put a man on the moon, can't pull off widespread testing.

    Sure thing.

    Business leaders told Trump mass testing is critical. Bulletin board Bob_C says it isn't, not even possible.

    Take you pick
    The logistics are insane, comparing a long lead time project to this is dumb.

    If people were at work it could’ve actually been run through employers in a semi efficient manner. Too late there, everyone has been sent home.
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Bob_C said:



    The logistics are insane, comparing a long lead time project to this is dumb.

    If people were at work it could’ve actually been run through employers in a semi efficient manner. Too late there, everyone has been sent home.
    You're not wrong. It would require a staggering reallocation of resources. New labs would either need to be converted or straight up built. The current infrastructure is not there.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    The problem is that we don't have accurate statistics that give us any way of estimating what the unknown variable is - how many people would die if we let the virus run its course with no intervention?

    It could be small, it could be massive. Most people I see trying to guess fall neatly into one of the two camps based on their ideology. A coincidence I'm sure. Widespread testing gives us a much clearer answer and puts an end to this fucktarded partisan guessing game.
    I was saying three weeks ago let's do some random sample testing. I don't even think it needs to be huge numbers. I am no expert but my guess is 50K tests spread between rural and city dwellers dispersed in all 50 states and we would have a decent model of how infected we really are, and then we could start making some real estimates on mortality rates. I am all for it. Could probably test 50K people in specific locations in a week. Let's get on with it.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,834 Founders Club
    What if testing is partisan? Then what? We tested everyone but they could still get it

    Politicians love to kick the can down the road and they aren't going out on a limb here. Testing is the latest reason not to open. There will be another one until enough "leaders" have the balls to lead. The second wave!!!!!

    What happens when Tom Rinaldi and his piano do a Gameday segment on Jimmy Spitz who went to watch his favorite college football team and DIED

    We all know those are the calculations being played out behind closed doors.

  • BayDawgBayDawg Member Posts: 1,623
    I understand what your saying. But people dont look at cancer and covid the same way. You cant cough on me and give me cancer. It's my choice to smoke, drink, eat processed food, etc. I can control whether I do those things.

    You are completely missing my take on this. I agree this may be just like the flu. But the general public doesn't know that yet. That is why we need the focus on antibody testing so we can show the population that this was an overreaction. But until then, on paper, the death rate looks way worse than the flu. Yes, the media isn't helping. There is a high percentage of Americans that are prone to fear. The testing to show the statistics are similar to the normal flu will be what makes people relax a bit and it will be easier to get on with life.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 37,023 Standard Supporter
    Easier decision if the death numbers weren't wildly wrong.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,904

    The problem is that we don't have accurate statistics that give us any way of estimating what the unknown variable is - how many people would die if we let the virus run its course with no intervention?

    It could be small, it could be massive. Most people I see trying to guess fall neatly into one of the two camps based on their ideology. A coincidence I'm sure. Widespread testing gives us a much clearer answer and puts an end to this fucktarded partisan guessing game.
    BayDawg said:

    It's not helping. At all. Again, this isn't political for me. I'm just thinking as an intelligent UW graduate. The fact that this dilemma has become political is really a shame. I think everyone (well, mostly everyone) wants the same thing. And my solution to getting our country back to work is by testing for antibodies on a large scale and showing our citizens that the disease isn't the rampant killer some think it is. And work like hell on a vaccine. Until then there is going to be a big pushback on going back to business as usual. That's not red or blue. It's the fear of not totally knowing what we are up against. I wouldn't consider myself in that crowd, but I will say I do have some of the underlying conditions they are talking about and occasionally it gives me pause.
    I'm a dumb Coug and I work on a floor with about 20 people on it. Haven't missed a day yet. No one has. Social distancing works. They do it here at my work, they do it at the grocery store. They do it at the gas station. They can do it just about everywhere.

    Tell me again that why the state that I live in that has probably 1,000 active cases (1600 hundred historical) and 59 deaths, with most over 80 y/o and all with pre conditions in day 52 from 1st patient, needs to lock themselves inside and destroy it's economy.

    Can you tell me, as an obvious intelligent UW grad why my state needs to do that.
  • BayDawgBayDawg Member Posts: 1,623
    I think testing results would work. Why dont we freak out about the flu? Because we know the statistics. And accept them. I think it is important to do the same with this. And if we do the media can find something else to sensationalize.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,904
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    BayDawg said:

    I think testing results would work. Why dont we freak out about the flu? Because we know the statistics. And accept them. I think it is important to do the same with this. And if we do the media can find something else to sensationalize.

    You were lying before.

    There is nothing intelligent about you. You merely buzz in tone with the rest of the hive.

    But the coronabros needed some new blood I guess, so here we are.

    That and @GreenRiverGatorz is a pussy who is afraid to bet on himself.
  • BayDawgBayDawg Member Posts: 1,623
    What was I lying about? I haven't really paid attention to you before, but you really are a prick. I'm not even sure what you are talking about.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,284

    The fear factor could be eliminated if the media and politicians stopped fear mongering.

    Explain to me how this is helping :smile:
    https://youtu.be/o8Fapc0aDaQ
    Yes. Hold back the tide, Mike. Stand there on the beach and hold it back.

    Fear mongering is what they do. It's almost all they do. But sure, let's hope they stop now.

    You aren't going to scare someone with immunity whether you're CNN or Fox.
    salemcoog said:

    T

    You were lying before.

    There is nothing intelligent about you. You merely buzz in tone with the rest of the hive.

    But the coronabros needed some new blood I guess, so here we are.

    That and @GreenRiverGatorz is a pussy who is afraid to bet on himself.
    Wow. What a gigantic cunt you are. Why don't you drive up here, Sally. I'll gut you like a fish and filet you on my tailgate. The only mudhole you'll have to worry about is the one I throw your fucking carcass in.
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    edited April 2020
    BayDawg said:

    What was I lying about? I haven't really paid attention to you before, but you really are a prick. I'm not even sure what you are talking about.

    Don't take it personally. Like creep running btp in 2019, I broke salem and he's now reduced to angry babbling.
  • LesGrossmanLesGrossman Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,493 Founders Club



    Math, facts, and figures. Numbers, math, facts, etc.

  • LesGrossmanLesGrossman Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,493 Founders Club

    Our political class were told that there would be no math







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