Massive and frequent testing is our only way out of this
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GreenRiverGatorz said:
The problem is that we don't have accurate statistics that give us any way of estimating what the unknown variable is - how many people would die if we let the virus run its course with no intervention?Swaye said:
If a million would die then I agree, some type of targeted mitigation is required. The issue is, I am not convinced a million would die. I do not think we have accurate statistics to support that assertion.BayDawg said:
If only 40,000 people die from this, you are 100% correct. But without a vaccine or mitigation the death number would probably be close to a million. People won't stomach that. Right or wrong, perception is reality.Swaye said:There is another option here besides mass testing, or continual rolling shutdowns.
Let. People. Die. Get. On. With. Life.
Herd immunity works er'y tim. Let's just blow the whistle and play some ball. Will people die? Yep. Get over it. Vaccine will be out soon. Even with vaccines flu kills 40K per year. Oh well. Nobody is hand wringing over that.
It could be small, it could be massive. Most people I see trying to guess fall neatly into one of the two camps based on their ideology. A coincidence I'm sure. Widespread testing gives us a much clearer answer and puts an end to this fucktarded partisan guessing game.
I'm a dumb Coug and I work on a floor with about 20 people on it. Haven't missed a day yet. No one has. Social distancing works. They do it here at my work, they do it at the grocery store. They do it at the gas station. They can do it just about everywhere.BayDawg said:
It's not helping. At all. Again, this isn't political for me. I'm just thinking as an intelligent UW graduate. The fact that this dilemma has become political is really a shame. I think everyone (well, mostly everyone) wants the same thing. And my solution to getting our country back to work is by testing for antibodies on a large scale and showing our citizens that the disease isn't the rampant killer some think it is. And work like hell on a vaccine. Until then there is going to be a big pushback on going back to business as usual. That's not red or blue. It's the fear of not totally knowing what we are up against. I wouldn't consider myself in that crowd, but I will say I do have some of the underlying conditions they are talking about and occasionally it gives me pause.MikeDamone said:
The fear factor could be eliminated if the media and politicians stopped fear mongering.BayDawg said:The point with testing is to see who has had it. 50 million people get the flu, 50,000 die and life goes on. We need the ANTIBODIES testing so we can eliminate the fear factor and prove that it isn't as deadly as it is being made out to be. If we can prove 25 million people have had it and only 75,000 people died it will go a long way to getting the country back to business as usual. But without that, (and I'm not saying its correct) many are going to be paralyzed with fear and this could drag on to the point of cratering the US as we know it.
The one thing Trump said that I agree with is the cure cant be worse than the disease. It's true, but until it can be shown that the mortality rate is alot less than it appears as of now it's going to be alot more difficult to convince people. It doesn't matter who 're-opens' the economy, ultimately the American people will decide. My opinion is massive antibodies testing is how that can happen.
Explain to me how this is helping
https://youtu.be/o8Fapc0aDaQ
Tell me again that why the state that I live in that has probably 1,000 active cases (1600 hundred historical) and 59 deaths, with most over 80 y/o and all with pre conditions in day 52 from 1st patient, needs to lock themselves inside and destroy it's economy.
Can you tell me, as an obvious intelligent UW grad why my state needs to do that. -
I think testing results would work. Why dont we freak out about the flu? Because we know the statistics. And accept them. I think it is important to do the same with this. And if we do the media can find something else to sensationalize.
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You were lying before.BayDawg said:I think testing results would work. Why dont we freak out about the flu? Because we know the statistics. And accept them. I think it is important to do the same with this. And if we do the media can find something else to sensationalize.
There is nothing intelligent about you. You merely buzz in tone with the rest of the hive.
But the coronabros needed some new blood I guess, so here we are.
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What was I lying about? I haven't really paid attention to you before, but you really are a prick. I'm not even sure what you are talking about.
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Yes. Hold back the tide, Mike. Stand there on the beach and hold it back.MikeDamone said:
The fear factor could be eliminated if the media and politicians stopped fear mongering.BayDawg said:The point with testing is to see who has had it. 50 million people get the flu, 50,000 die and life goes on. We need the ANTIBODIES testing so we can eliminate the fear factor and prove that it isn't as deadly as it is being made out to be. If we can prove 25 million people have had it and only 75,000 people died it will go a long way to getting the country back to business as usual. But without that, (and I'm not saying its correct) many are going to be paralyzed with fear and this could drag on to the point of cratering the US as we know it.
The one thing Trump said that I agree with is the cure cant be worse than the disease. It's true, but until it can be shown that the mortality rate is alot less than it appears as of now it's going to be alot more difficult to convince people. It doesn't matter who 're-opens' the economy, ultimately the American people will decide. My opinion is massive antibodies testing is how that can happen.
Explain to me how this is helpinghttps://youtu.be/o8Fapc0aDaQ
Fear mongering is what they do. It's almost all they do. But sure, let's hope they stop now.
You aren't going to scare someone with immunity whether you're CNN or Fox.
Wow. What a gigantic cunt you are. Why don't you drive up here, Sally. I'll gut you like a fish and filet you on my tailgate. The only mudhole you'll have to worry about is the one I throw your fucking carcass in.salemcoog said:T
You were lying before.BayDawg said:I think testing results would work. Why dont we freak out about the flu? Because we know the statistics. And accept them. I think it is important to do the same with this. And if we do the media can find something else to sensationalize.
There is nothing intelligent about you. You merely buzz in tone with the rest of the hive.
But the coronabros needed some new blood I guess, so here we are.
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Don't take it personally. Like creep running btp in 2019, I broke salem and he's now reduced to angry babbling.BayDawg said:What was I lying about? I haven't really paid attention to you before, but you really are a prick. I'm not even sure what you are talking about.
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Antibody testing, private sector, anybody that wants it can get it. Pay your $75 cash or have your insurer cover it.
If there's huge demand(there will be) then the race is on for supply and the fortunes that can be made.
Large scale randomized testing from the public sector.
Establish the mortality rate and what % of the population is already resistant.
Reopen with social distancing until the above is done. Stop arresting people for surfing and fishing you fucking fascists.
Math, facts, and figures.
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Our political class were told that there would be no math
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