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For fuck sakes, will one of you smarts convince me otherwise? Corona just a bunch-a-shit. Imagine
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That would be great. Until then, glad we* have The Tug.MontlakeBridgeTroll said:FFS if only there were places on the internet besides a football message board where people could learn about science.
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Good think he didn’t listen to cryin Chuck.insinceredawg said: -
Or you and PurpMikeDamone said:
Good think he didn’t listen to cryin Chuck.insinceredawg said: -
@89ute this thing is potentially more contagious than the flu but ranges around pneumonia in how deadly it is. Neither of those two things is super alarming but put them together and well it's more concerning.
Combine that with an aging population and how rapidly it infects and well, it might only kill 15,000 people in the US but it might do it in a week. All of the sick people will overwhelm the hospitals if it all is within 1 week as well. That will grab headlines regardless. -
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I think the case/death ratio can get skewed pretty easily for a number of reasons ... but you’re mixing a leading indicator (cases) with a lagging indicator (deaths)
Yes, part of the numbers in New York is due to sheer volume of more people ... but the fear is the contagious nature of passing things on and that the NYC area kinda took things slow early and there is risk to overwhelming the system.
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The experts don’t know what it is. It’s like the flu and can take over someone quickly within a matter of hours, young and old, or may have mild symptoms, depending on that persons immune system at the time or age or pre-existing conditions...
I’m not freaking out about it myself, but it needs to be taken seriously, seriously. It may not be what happens to someone here where they wind up on a ventilator, but who may be affected from someone and then pass it on. Seems to be a lot more contagious than the regular flu. Not only may it put your parents or grandparents in jeopardy fighting for their lives if a person contracted this and spread it to others, it inundates hospitals and critical care beds to where there is no room for these poor folks, much less others with everyday medical circumstances requiring critical care.
When every hospital goes on “diversion” meaning no critical care beds in your area and then some other unforeseen medical emergency may happen upon you or a loved one and they say we have no beds, try another, it jams up the system and may be fucked. Much less the folks trying to take care of the sick and then they get affected and no help.
In other words, and I know it’s cliche, but flatten the outbreak and try not to overwhelm medical facilities with this shit because flu is out there as well and every day medical emergencies that require attention. -
The other benefit to attending the curve is that we are buying time for solutions to emerge
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Study just published in Germany shows that its much more contagious. The virus is shedding very early and in yuge volumes which makes it much harder to contain.UW_Doog_Bot said:@89ute this thing is potentially more contagious than the flu but ranges around pneumonia in how deadly it is. Neither of those two things is super alarming but put them together and well it's more concerning.
Combine that with an aging population and how rapidly it infects and well, it might only kill 15,000 people in the US but it might do it in a week. All of the sick people will overwhelm the hospitals if it all is within 1 week as well. That will grab headlines regardless.
They compared it to SARS which reached its peak infectious period later in the cycle when the illness moved deep into the lungs. covid 19 seems to reach peak shed earlier while still in upper respiratory. At its peak covid 19 is shedding 1,000 times more virus than SARS patients were emitting at peak shed...this ain’t the flu. -
If we had a mainstream media and politicians with any credibility, there would be way less confusion and arguing over it. It's been politicized like everything else. People on both extremes are obnoxious and really full of shit and histrionics. Meanwhile we're way more in debt thanks to the hysteria and shutdown of most of the country.






