A simple question

WestlinnDuck said:

If I liked his politics it would be because he wasn't a poorly educated socialist. Leftards argued he was the most brilliant president evah. The truth was that he was an AA admit to the Ivy League enhanced by claiming to be a Kenyan. He got the Law Review gig because he was half black also. Wrote nothing and did nothing. Was mentored by a commie terrorist who wrote his "autobiography". I'm not impressed with credentials unless its backed up with performance. Leftards love to "feel". barry "felt" that we couldn't drill our way to lower energy prices. Palin knew we could. That alone discredits any credentials that barry had and the people that dumped on Palin owe her an apology. You can't be so fundamentally wrong about something that important and just paper it over with the statement that he lectured about a topic he knew nothing about in Chicago.

If you dig you'll find they lowered the standards so he could receive accolades at graduation and be president of the law review.

Sledog said:

WestlinnDuck said:

If I liked his politics it would be because he wasn't a poorly educated socialist. Leftards argued he was the most brilliant president evah. The truth was that he was an AA admit to the Ivy League enhanced by claiming to be a Kenyan. He got the Law Review gig because he was half black also. Wrote nothing and did nothing. Was mentored by a commie terrorist who wrote his "autobiography". I'm not impressed with credentials unless its backed up with performance. Leftards love to "feel". barry "felt" that we couldn't drill our way to lower energy prices. Palin knew we could. That alone discredits any credentials that barry had and the people that dumped on Palin owe her an apology. You can't be so fundamentally wrong about something that important and just paper it over with the statement that he lectured about a topic he knew nothing about in Chicago.

If you dig you'll find they lowered the standards so he could receive accolades at graduation and be president of the law review.

Obama was made the head of the Harvard Law Review on an Affirmative Action weighted vote and he was the first person to hold that position who didn't write regularly for the publication. He was a figure head, or as O'Keefed likes to say a "prop."

creepycoug said:

WestlinnDuck said:

If you actually cared all this was known in 2008. So, you either didn't care or you just ignored it and lied about it. If I care about something I like to read and learn about it. What is stunning is how leftards are so intellectually incurious about topics that they are so emotionally invested in. They are the equivalent of flat earthers. The rest just want the raw power and are happy to lie to gain the power. In reality, most are a toxic mix of both.

That’s all great. But I only responded to the community organizer comment.

By the time we’re done here, it will be a wonder that the guy can even tie his shoes. Did they manufacture the magna cum laude finish to his legal studies too?

They sure did.

WestlinnDuck said:

For some reason, there are no details behind barry's admittance to Harvard or his grades. For some reason, we know a lot about W Bush's. I wasn't commenting about your community organizer comment. I was commenting about the credentials comment.

One guy in this thread is telling me that his graduation honors were made up as a gift to him. And another is saying we don’t have details about his grades. It seems like we’d have a good idea about his grades if we knew that HLS took the unprecedented step of giving him high honors graduation status.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama was admitted to HLS in part on diversity considerations. But then again, for the lion’s share of its history (and that of the other Ivy League and other selective schools), being wealthy was the primary admission criterion. How many Presidents got in that way?

But once there, it doesn’t appear he slid by. Someone will have to lay that out for me. And not because I don’t want to believe it. I don’t care at all. But I don’t alter how I assess probability based on how I feel about someone. If you had graduated from HLS with high honors my assumption would be you earned it and that it was real.

WestlinnDuck said:

Would you assume that he earned his admission into Harvard Law? Would you assume he earned his way to editor of the law review. Would you assume he earned his magna cum laude? barry sure doesn't seem like a brilliant guy to me. Bush was a legacy admit to both Yale and Harvard's MBA program. Bush never seemed like a brilliant guy to me either. I've never gone to bat for Bush's intelligence. Neither Bush or barry are stupid, but barry wasn't the second brightest guy at Harvard Law.

I answered the first question.

The EIC charge ... sure, diversity likely had some play there. And while an EIC would typically get his student article in for publication, it's not unheard of that they don't given their other responsibilities.

Magna Cum Laude? This is conspiracy theory zone. I'd find it more believable that he lied about it than the school rigging it for him. "Well, his grades are average, but let's let the black kid graduate MCL." Lolz. They just don't do that; Obama wasn't exactly the first black guy to sail through Langdell Hall. They weren't that smitten. Jesus.

Second smartest guy at HLS? Who said he was? You know, they hand out more than one Magna Cum Laude designation. It's based on your grades and falling into a specified % ranking.

Your rationale seems to be, "if he got in with affirmative action, everything else must be fraud."