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I've always been on team Tommy Freemont, but I have to agree with the others here. AOC represents a variety of radical that I find dangerous to the American way, which I believe has been defined in large measure by free market principles and philosophy. Private property, capital investment, the fruits thereof and all that.ThomasFremont said:
“Wants to destroy this country”WestlinnDuck said:Depends on what things you want. And what problems you recognize. AOC wants bad things and her recognized problems are my opportunities which makes her a bad person and anti-American. Now here is how a real debate occurs. You now talk about her nude green eel and how patriotic that is. Then you talk about about how my free speech and 2A rights are a problem and how wanting to take them away is patriotic. AOC isn't existing in some theoretical background. She is an elected member of Congress and wants to destroy this country.
An auspicious start to our REAL debate.
She represents a school of thought that truly believes we all deserve an equal result, which flies in the face of how we got here. I'll go down swinging on that point. My family knows all too well how things work when someone swoops in and starts pointing the finger at people who have "more than they need." AOC is clearly a socialist, and likely a full blown communist if you got her drunk enough to admit it. One party rule, re-distribute the wealth.
I can't abide by that. The Creep family has been to that movie. We? know how it ends. -
There is nothing hypothetical about the Democrat Socialists. They have told everyone want they want to do.ThomasFremont said:Yeah and I’d fuck Natalie Portman if I could, but that ain’t happening either.
Hypothetical BS is the name of the game today I see.
We don’t do that, fellas.
Their solutions will do nothing to help.
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There is nothing hypothetical about my wanting to bang Natalie Portman. I’ve told everyone what I want to do.RaceBannon said:
There is nothing hypothetical about the Democrat Socialists. They have told everyone want they want to do.ThomasFremont said:Yeah and I’d fuck Natalie Portman if I could, but that ain’t happening either.
Hypothetical BS is the name of the game today I see.
We don’t do that, fellas.
Their solutions will do nothing to help.
My solutions will do nothing to help. -
Hell yeah. Portman in the movie Closer, is unforgettable.ThomasFremont said:Yeah and I’d fuck Natalie Portman if I could, but that ain’t happening either.
Hypothetical BS is the name of the game today I see.
We don’t do that, fellas. -
Obama was the first president who truly hated America and all it stands forcreepycoug said:
Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.Bendintheriver said:
You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.Southerndawg said:
Agree with Derek.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.Bendintheriver said:Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.
In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.
There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.
Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?
I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.
In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.
I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.
As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others. -
You'll think differently at the reeducation camp comrade!RaceBannon said:
There is nothing hypothetical about the Democrat Socialists. They have told everyone want they want to do.ThomasFremont said:Yeah and I’d fuck Natalie Portman if I could, but that ain’t happening either.
Hypothetical BS is the name of the game today I see.
We don’t do that, fellas.
Their solutions will do nothing to help. -
Tommy will happily vote for Bernie - the commie. Nothing hypothetical about that.
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Damn, bruh. T&Ps.creepycoug said:
Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.Bendintheriver said:
You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.Southerndawg said:
Agree with Derek.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.Bendintheriver said:Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.
In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.
There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.
Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?
I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.
In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.
I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.
As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others.
SLC/Utah Moes are radical progressives compared to the S. Idaho Mormons.
There's a boatload of hispanics (some who are even here legally) in Ada/Canyon County too - Raul checks many boxes.
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Because they will fail I guess. Not quite following the "logic" hereWestlinnDuck said:Tommy will happily vote for Bernie - the commie. Nothing hypothetical about that.
Obviously he's embarrassed by the Squad but won't admit they have infected the host @dnc -
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He hated America so much that he provided health insurance to a measly 30 million people.Pitchfork51 said:
Obama was the first president who truly hated America and all it stands forcreepycoug said:
Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.Bendintheriver said:
You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.Southerndawg said:
Agree with Derek.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.Bendintheriver said:Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.
In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.
There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.
Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?
I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.
In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.
I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.
As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others. -
Welcum to the Weather Underground.Pitchfork51 said:
Obama was the first president who truly hated America and all it stands forcreepycoug said:
Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.Bendintheriver said:
You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.Southerndawg said:
Agree with Derek.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.Bendintheriver said:Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.
In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.
There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.
Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?
I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.
In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.
I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.
As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others. -
Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either. He gave good speeches, the white rats liked that, and he was a good looking black man and the rats liked that. Pretty shallow qualifications but if you doubt any of it, just look at the ex-bartender socialist who is a mouthpiece for the rat party right now. That idiot would destroy the country given the chance.creepycoug said:
Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.Bendintheriver said:
You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.Southerndawg said:
Agree with Derek.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.Bendintheriver said:Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.
In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.
There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.
Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?
I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.
In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.
I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.
As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others.
Lest there be any doubt, remember the following by your current Presidential front runner who said what all rat plantation owners were thinking but to smart to say in public other than that dip shit Biden:
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man." -
The 'man' at the end makes Crazy Joe seem almost Shaft- or Superfly-like in his connection to the African-American peoples.Bendintheriver said:
Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either. He gave good speeches, the white rats liked that, and he was a good looking black man and the rats liked that. Pretty shallow qualifications but if you doubt any of it, just look at the ex-bartender socialist who is a mouthpiece for the rat party right now. That idiot would destroy the country given the chance.creepycoug said:
Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.Bendintheriver said:
You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.Southerndawg said:
Agree with Derek.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.Bendintheriver said:Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.
In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.
There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.
Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?
I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.
In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.
I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.
As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others.
Lest there be any doubt, remember the following by your current Presidential front runner who said what all rat plantation owners were thinking but to smart to say in public other than that dip shit Biden:
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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The current dem candidate message is that America is systemically racist. So systemic that a black man could never be president? So systemic that the supposed greatest university in the world hired a fake American Indian and then boasted about it? Telling white blue collar workers that their auto and energy jobs are going to be taken away, that open borders and free health care for illegals is a top priority and that they are racist scum is quite the positive message.
https://nypost.com/2020/02/07/trashing-america-as-racist-wont-help-democrats-beat-trump/
Trashing America as racist won’t help Democrats beat Trump
The Democrats are lucky the February debate in New Hampshire took place on a Friday night, when relatively few were watching — because if they wanted to deliver the message to the working-class white people who delivered the upper Midwest and the presidency to Donald Trump in 2016 that they should stick with him rather than voting blue in November, they did a brilliant job of it.
Tom Steyer, the billionaire who’s trying to buy a win Bloomberg-style in the South Carolina Democratic primary, issued a stark warning at the beginning of the Democratic debate Friday night in New Hampshire: Trump has the economic numbers that can help him get reelected, and Democrats are going to need to have a strong message to overwhelm it.
About an hour into the debate, they found their message: America, Bernie Sanders said, is “a racist society from top to bottom.”
One by one, the candidates echoed the message that “systemic racism” characterizes America.
“We can’t legislate away racism,” said Andrew Yang, because racism runs so deep in the American soul.
Joe Biden, verbatim (poor Joe): “The fact is that we in fact there is systemic racism.”
Elizabeth Warren even declared that “we need race-conscious laws in education, in employment, in entrepreneurship to make this country a country for everyone.”
By which she means the law should actually be written to privilege people of color.
SEE ALSO
The winners and losers of Friday's Democratic debate
It’s a fashionable message, and if there’s one thing the Democrats love to be, it’s fashionable. It’s The New York Times’ “1619 Project” nonsense about how slavery is what founded this country.
And when you live in a liberal media bubble, its allure is hypnotic — especially since it seems to offer a pathway they can follow to appeal to the African American voters who make up 25% of the Democratic primary electorate and who may now be up for grabs since Joe Biden face-planted in Iowa earlier this week.
I’m not saying these people are crazy but — these people are crazy. This is crazy talk, and not only because it’s a rotten, lousy lie and a grotesque distortion of history and simple truth.
It’s crazy talk because, unless I’m very much mistaken, you don’t win the presidency by telling the American people the country they live in and that so many of us love is rotten at its core.
It’s one thing to trash Trump, which they did as they always do. It’s one thing to blame him for all kinds of stuff. It’s another to spend an evening trashing the United States of America as a systematically unjust and even evil place whose rot reaches its very foundations.
You don’t win the presidency by telling a majority of voters — some of whom are the very voters you need to flip to win — that the system is unfairly rigged in their favor.
Even Trump, who began his presidency by talking about “American carnage,” did not say America was bad at its root — rather, he said it had ceased being great, and he was going to make it great again.
I wasn’t happy with the way he talked about this country either, but he didn’t say our problems were systemic and that effectively we were born out of evil. -
That some sweet editorializing of Yang's quote.
“We can’t legislate away racism,” said Andrew Yang, because racism runs so deep in the American soul.
Here's what Yang actually said:
“We can’t regulate away racism with a patchwork of laws that are race-specific. We can’t regulate that away through any other means except putting money directly into the hands of African Americans and Latinos, to people of color, to allow businesses to actually flourish and grow in those communities. The only way that will help is if Black and Latino consumers have buying power."
Anybody surprised that he's the only candidate of color.....but he's the one getting his words twisted out of context because it doesn't fit the Central Party playbook of divisiveness? Dude is always looking forward (though not in total agreement with his policies) instead of pointing backwards.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=andrew+yang+on+racism&docid=13980636159673&mid=8A7E975C11B7327F849B8A7E975C11B7327F849B&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
Wood still, Erin Burnett even though she's not as hot as her CNBC days.
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Didn't notice that Podhoretz made up the quote. Yang does appear to think that racism is a major problem for blacks and hispanics. How giving them free sh*t is going to motivate someone to get a job is a bit beyond me. My experience is that free sh*t is bad for the character and just leads to dependency which is what we have. I'll be prepared to concede that the Great Society and dem promoted welfare have been disastrous to a large chunk of the black community. I'll be prepared to concede that inner city education programs run by dems are actually detrimental to the education of blacks. If we want to call that racist - I won't object.
Yang seems to think that a UBI program would just redirect current welfare money. It won't. It would just end up being a free sh*t add on. Just like Milton Friedman thought that an earned income credit would reward getting a job. In some cases it does, but it is administered by the deep state as a welfare giveaway and billions are gamed out of the program and not one dem gives a crap. -
I'm not in a position to support Yang's UBI - but what I do like about the guy is he goes against the Central Party playbook. He's not stuck in the woe-is-me-systemic-history bullshit. Acknowledge it an move the fuck on. I'm more of learn from history, now let's look ahead and make shit better kind of guy. Lamenting crap from 350 years ago isn't going to do shit to compete on a global scale and make USA! USA! USA! the world's greatest country into the next century.WestlinnDuck said:Didn't notice that Podhoretz made up the quote. Yang does appear to think that racism is a major problem for blacks and hispanics. How giving them free sh*t is going to motivate someone to get a job is a bit beyond me. My experience is that free sh*t is bad for the character and just leads to dependency which is what we have. I'll be prepared to concede that the Great Society and dem promoted welfare have been disastrous to a large chunk of the black community. I'll be prepared to concede that inner city education programs run by dems are actually detrimental to the education of blacks. If we want to call that racist - I won't object.
Yang seems to think that a UBI program would just redirect current welfare money. It won't. It would just end up being a free sh*t add on. Just like Milton Friedman thought that an earned income credit would reward getting a job. In some cases it does, but it is administered by the deep state as a welfare giveaway and billions are gamed out of the program and not one dem gives a crap.
He also doesn't have TDS.
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If UBI replaced all other public assistance including social security it might be worth considering. If not, then fuck that.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm not in a position to support Yang's UBI - but what I do like about the guy is he goes against the Central Party playbook. He's not stuck in the woe-is-me-systemic-history bullshit. Acknowledge it an move the fuck on. I'm more of learn from history, now let's look ahead and make shit better kind of guy. Lamenting crap from 350 years ago isn't going to do shit to compete on a global scale and make USA! USA! USA! the world's greatest country into the next century.WestlinnDuck said:Didn't notice that Podhoretz made up the quote. Yang does appear to think that racism is a major problem for blacks and hispanics. How giving them free sh*t is going to motivate someone to get a job is a bit beyond me. My experience is that free sh*t is bad for the character and just leads to dependency which is what we have. I'll be prepared to concede that the Great Society and dem promoted welfare have been disastrous to a large chunk of the black community. I'll be prepared to concede that inner city education programs run by dems are actually detrimental to the education of blacks. If we want to call that racist - I won't object.
Yang seems to think that a UBI program would just redirect current welfare money. It won't. It would just end up being a free sh*t add on. Just like Milton Friedman thought that an earned income credit would reward getting a job. In some cases it does, but it is administered by the deep state as a welfare giveaway and billions are gamed out of the program and not one dem gives a crap.
He also doesn't have TDS. -
Agree. The delivery system sucks for all aid. Very wastefulMikeDamone said:
If UBI replaced all other public assistance including social security it might be worth considering. If not, then fuck that.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm not in a position to support Yang's UBI - but what I do like about the guy is he goes against the Central Party playbook. He's not stuck in the woe-is-me-systemic-history bullshit. Acknowledge it an move the fuck on. I'm more of learn from history, now let's look ahead and make shit better kind of guy. Lamenting crap from 350 years ago isn't going to do shit to compete on a global scale and make USA! USA! USA! the world's greatest country into the next century.WestlinnDuck said:Didn't notice that Podhoretz made up the quote. Yang does appear to think that racism is a major problem for blacks and hispanics. How giving them free sh*t is going to motivate someone to get a job is a bit beyond me. My experience is that free sh*t is bad for the character and just leads to dependency which is what we have. I'll be prepared to concede that the Great Society and dem promoted welfare have been disastrous to a large chunk of the black community. I'll be prepared to concede that inner city education programs run by dems are actually detrimental to the education of blacks. If we want to call that racist - I won't object.
Yang seems to think that a UBI program would just redirect current welfare money. It won't. It would just end up being a free sh*t add on. Just like Milton Friedman thought that an earned income credit would reward getting a job. In some cases it does, but it is administered by the deep state as a welfare giveaway and billions are gamed out of the program and not one dem gives a crap.
He also doesn't have TDS. -
Oh yeah. Raul is not a pretender. Trust me on that point. He's a true believer.PurpleThrobber said:
Damn, bruh. T&Ps.creepycoug said:
Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.Bendintheriver said:
You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.Southerndawg said:
Agree with Derek.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.Bendintheriver said:Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.
In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.
There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.
Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?
I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.
In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.
I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.
As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others.
SLC/Utah Moes are radical progressives compared to the S. Idaho Mormons.
There's a boatload of hispanics (some who are even here legally) in Ada/Canyon County too - Raul checks many boxes. -
What about this guy? From the Senate frying pan right into the fire.Bendintheriver said:
Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either. He gave good speeches, the white rats liked that, and he was a good looking black man and the rats liked that. Pretty shallow qualifications but if you doubt any of it, just look at the ex-bartender socialist who is a mouthpiece for the rat party right now. That idiot would destroy the country given the chance.creepycoug said:
Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.Bendintheriver said:
You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.Southerndawg said:
Agree with Derek.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.Bendintheriver said:Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.
In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.
There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.
Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?
I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.
In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.
I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.
As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others.
Lest there be any doubt, remember the following by your current Presidential front runner who said what all rat plantation owners were thinking but to smart to say in public other than that dip shit Biden:
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
And what business chops did, say, Reagan have?
Look, if you want to suggest that they should all be like HW Bush ... a verifiably accomplished individual long before he got to the WH, then I'm on board. But you seem to be cherry picking here a little.
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Like I say, I'm not joined at the hip with the whole UBI concept. But I like Yang because he's not a cum guzzling suck up to the Central Party and doesn't burn a bunch of brains cells on TDS.MikeDamone said:
If UBI replaced all other public assistance including social security it might be worth considering. If not, then fuck that.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm not in a position to support Yang's UBI - but what I do like about the guy is he goes against the Central Party playbook. He's not stuck in the woe-is-me-systemic-history bullshit. Acknowledge it an move the fuck on. I'm more of learn from history, now let's look ahead and make shit better kind of guy. Lamenting crap from 350 years ago isn't going to do shit to compete on a global scale and make USA! USA! USA! the world's greatest country into the next century.WestlinnDuck said:Didn't notice that Podhoretz made up the quote. Yang does appear to think that racism is a major problem for blacks and hispanics. How giving them free sh*t is going to motivate someone to get a job is a bit beyond me. My experience is that free sh*t is bad for the character and just leads to dependency which is what we have. I'll be prepared to concede that the Great Society and dem promoted welfare have been disastrous to a large chunk of the black community. I'll be prepared to concede that inner city education programs run by dems are actually detrimental to the education of blacks. If we want to call that racist - I won't object.
Yang seems to think that a UBI program would just redirect current welfare money. It won't. It would just end up being a free sh*t add on. Just like Milton Friedman thought that an earned income credit would reward getting a job. In some cases it does, but it is administered by the deep state as a welfare giveaway and billions are gamed out of the program and not one dem gives a crap.
He also doesn't have TDS.
IMO, he's the only one who could have a shot at beating Trump. Most of that is based on likeability which goes a long way. Warren and Klobucher will gets slammed because they are cunty bitches.
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Yang has governability, not electability.PurpleThrobber said:
Like I say, I'm not joined at the hip with the whole UBI concept. But I like Yang because he's not a cum guzzling suck up to the Central Party and doesn't burn a bunch of brains cells on TDS.MikeDamone said:
If UBI replaced all other public assistance including social security it might be worth considering. If not, then fuck that.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm not in a position to support Yang's UBI - but what I do like about the guy is he goes against the Central Party playbook. He's not stuck in the woe-is-me-systemic-history bullshit. Acknowledge it an move the fuck on. I'm more of learn from history, now let's look ahead and make shit better kind of guy. Lamenting crap from 350 years ago isn't going to do shit to compete on a global scale and make USA! USA! USA! the world's greatest country into the next century.WestlinnDuck said:Didn't notice that Podhoretz made up the quote. Yang does appear to think that racism is a major problem for blacks and hispanics. How giving them free sh*t is going to motivate someone to get a job is a bit beyond me. My experience is that free sh*t is bad for the character and just leads to dependency which is what we have. I'll be prepared to concede that the Great Society and dem promoted welfare have been disastrous to a large chunk of the black community. I'll be prepared to concede that inner city education programs run by dems are actually detrimental to the education of blacks. If we want to call that racist - I won't object.
Yang seems to think that a UBI program would just redirect current welfare money. It won't. It would just end up being a free sh*t add on. Just like Milton Friedman thought that an earned income credit would reward getting a job. In some cases it does, but it is administered by the deep state as a welfare giveaway and billions are gamed out of the program and not one dem gives a crap.
He also doesn't have TDS.
IMO, he's the only one who could have a shot at beating Trump. Most of that is based on likeability which goes a long way. Warren and Klobucher will gets slammed because they are cunty bitches. -
JFK? Another good looking well spoken rat politician? Thanks for making my point.creepycoug said:
What about this guy? From the Senate frying pan right into the fire.Bendintheriver said:
Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either. He gave good speeches, the white rats liked that, and he was a good looking black man and the rats liked that. Pretty shallow qualifications but if you doubt any of it, just look at the ex-bartender socialist who is a mouthpiece for the rat party right now. That idiot would destroy the country given the chance.creepycoug said:
Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.Bendintheriver said:
You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.Southerndawg said:
Agree with Derek.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.Bendintheriver said:Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.
In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.
There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.
Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?
I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.
In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.
I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.
As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others.
Lest there be any doubt, remember the following by your current Presidential front runner who said what all rat plantation owners were thinking but to smart to say in public other than that dip shit Biden:
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
And what business chops did, say, Reagan have?
Look, if you want to suggest that they should all be like HW Bush ... a verifiably accomplished individual long before he got to the WH, then I'm on board. But you seem to be cherry picking here a little.
Just stop. -
JFK would be an alt right conservative to today's rats.
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He’d be in the proud boysSledog said:JFK would be an alt right conservative to today's rats.
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He make a great cabinet member for TrumpGrundleStiltzkin said:
Yang has governability, not electability.PurpleThrobber said:
Like I say, I'm not joined at the hip with the whole UBI concept. But I like Yang because he's not a cum guzzling suck up to the Central Party and doesn't burn a bunch of brains cells on TDS.MikeDamone said:
If UBI replaced all other public assistance including social security it might be worth considering. If not, then fuck that.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm not in a position to support Yang's UBI - but what I do like about the guy is he goes against the Central Party playbook. He's not stuck in the woe-is-me-systemic-history bullshit. Acknowledge it an move the fuck on. I'm more of learn from history, now let's look ahead and make shit better kind of guy. Lamenting crap from 350 years ago isn't going to do shit to compete on a global scale and make USA! USA! USA! the world's greatest country into the next century.WestlinnDuck said:Didn't notice that Podhoretz made up the quote. Yang does appear to think that racism is a major problem for blacks and hispanics. How giving them free sh*t is going to motivate someone to get a job is a bit beyond me. My experience is that free sh*t is bad for the character and just leads to dependency which is what we have. I'll be prepared to concede that the Great Society and dem promoted welfare have been disastrous to a large chunk of the black community. I'll be prepared to concede that inner city education programs run by dems are actually detrimental to the education of blacks. If we want to call that racist - I won't object.
Yang seems to think that a UBI program would just redirect current welfare money. It won't. It would just end up being a free sh*t add on. Just like Milton Friedman thought that an earned income credit would reward getting a job. In some cases it does, but it is administered by the deep state as a welfare giveaway and billions are gamed out of the program and not one dem gives a crap.
He also doesn't have TDS.
IMO, he's the only one who could have a shot at beating Trump. Most of that is based on likeability which goes a long way. Warren and Klobucher will gets slammed because they are cunty bitches. -
JFK was a war hero like Bush 1. In 1960 ww2 was 15 years ago
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Surely there has to be a picture of JFK throwing up the “white Power” hand sign somewhere.MikeDamone said:
He’d be in the proud boysSledog said:JFK would be an alt right conservative to today's rats.
