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RaceBannon
RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,721 Founders Club



He has fought way harder against Trump than he ever did running against Obama


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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    He has fought way harder against Trump than he ever did running against Obama
    I like Mitt but that is 100% true.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club

    He has fought way harder against Trump than he ever did running against Obama
    I like Mitt but that is 100% true.

    Agree.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,721 Founders Club
    89ute said:
    I've heard that this may happen to anyone voting in favor


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,721 Founders Club

    I thought he was a racist who hated the poor and had binders full of women. Now he's the darling of the left.

    Mitt fired a gay guy once

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016




    He has fought way harder against Trump than he ever did running against Obama


    I still like Romney. He may not appeal to today's conservative, but he's exactly my kind of politician. Sure, his time in Mass. has probably liberal'd him up a bit, but he's no liberal. Bongingo is overreacting IMO.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    89ute said:
    He's not a Utah Mormy any more. He's northeast and Ivy League.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club




    He has fought way harder against Trump than he ever did running against Obama


    I still like Romney. He may not appeal to today's conservative, but he's exactly my kind of politician. Sure, his time in Mass. has probably liberal'd him up a bit, but he's no liberal. Bongingo is overreacting IMO.
    Nothing's changed with me. I'd still take Mitt over Trump.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016




    He has fought way harder against Trump than he ever did running against Obama


    I still like Romney. He may not appeal to today's conservative, but he's exactly my kind of politician. Sure, his time in Mass. has probably liberal'd him up a bit, but he's no liberal. Bongingo is overreacting IMO.
    Nothing's changed with me. I'd still take Mitt over Trump.
    Me too. If he had a good Republican Congress behind him, so that he didn't have to court the left as much, I think he'd be a great Prez.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    edited February 2020




    He has fought way harder against Trump than he ever did running against Obama


    I still like Romney. He may not appeal to today's conservative, but he's exactly my kind of politician. Sure, his time in Mass. has probably liberal'd him up a bit, but he's no liberal. Bongingo is overreacting IMO.
    Nothing's changed with me. I'd still take Mitt over Trump.
    You must like losing or democrats because that pussy would give in every time
    I think Romney's dalliances with the left is a subtle bundle of factors. First, Romney comes from a background of people who literally don't use profanity. Trump's a little rough around the edges for that crowd, and Romney is never going to be the lightning rod Trump almost seems to love to be.

    The other thing is that Romney isn't really a natural for Trump's base. Of that base, the sub-group we call Evangelical Christians are not good bedfellows for the Mormons, who they (and a lot of other people) see as weird and culty. Outside of that, he's not blue collar and he's not a southerner, so if he's racist he's going to hide it. He has none of that "tells it like it is" appeal, because that's not who he is. He's a different human being altogether, and probably let's things you and others here don't care about matter to him. Like appearances, decorum and all that shit that's so easy to make fun of.

    Romney is not, I agree, a 'say anything', bottom line guy in the mold of Rush Limbaugh and Trump, and there's no question that living in Mass. has made him more of a New Englander than a Utah Mormom. And those people are, as I've learned over the last 5 years, a breed a part. My old boss told me that upstate NW was very different than New England, at which point I looked at a map and said, "yeah right". He was right. It is.

    All that said, Mitt still holds conservative values, has brains, has credibility and great fucking hair.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,721 Founders Club



    Like I said last night - Americans love a winner and the establishment wants to get on board

    Mitt wanted to be Secretary of State. This is probably when he was begging for the job
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,721 Founders Club
    I would have voted for Romney in 2012 if I had voted. Only election I didn't vote in. Too lazy to drive up to Seattle when I was working in Olympia. The classic unmotivated voter by a bad candidate

    After the debate fiasco I figured what is the point anyway.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    SFGbob said:




    He has fought way harder against Trump than he ever did running against Obama


    I still like Romney. He may not appeal to today's conservative, but he's exactly my kind of politician. Sure, his time in Mass. has probably liberal'd him up a bit, but he's no liberal. Bongingo is overreacting IMO.
    Romney is whatever Romney needs to be in order to help Romney. There's no core or convictions with him other than what helps Mitt.
    What's Mitt's play here then? The majority of Utahns don't support impeachment, so what's the rub?
  • rodmansrage
    rodmansrage Member Posts: 6,376



    What's Mitt's play here then? The majority of Utahns don't support impeachment, so what's the rub?

    confuse the fuck out of people in utah?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    SFGbob said:




    He has fought way harder against Trump than he ever did running against Obama


    I still like Romney. He may not appeal to today's conservative, but he's exactly my kind of politician. Sure, his time in Mass. has probably liberal'd him up a bit, but he's no liberal. Bongingo is overreacting IMO.
    Romney is whatever Romney needs to be in order to help Romney. There's no core or convictions with him other than what helps Mitt.
    I think that describes a lot of people in DC, including the President of the United States. I'm not going spend all day on this point, but if I were limited to one conviction I have about Trump, and only one, it would be that there is much of his public platform that has nothing to do with the man, and many which are likely not the man's real beliefs or inclinations. But there are enough of the important ones that are, and that's all that matters.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,721 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:




    He has fought way harder against Trump than he ever did running against Obama


    I still like Romney. He may not appeal to today's conservative, but he's exactly my kind of politician. Sure, his time in Mass. has probably liberal'd him up a bit, but he's no liberal. Bongingo is overreacting IMO.
    Romney is whatever Romney needs to be in order to help Romney. There's no core or convictions with him other than what helps Mitt.
    What's Mitt's play here then? The majority of Utahns don't support impeachment, so what's the rub?
    Don't ever underestimate the self delusion of politicians. Every 4 years a bunch of them think they can be president even though no one else does

    Mitt is counting on a Trump loss this year or a big backlash after 4 more years to propel him to front runner status for 2024

    He has the name recognition which worked great for Jeb and Biden. Or not

    I think that is the play though
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:




    He has fought way harder against Trump than he ever did running against Obama


    I still like Romney. He may not appeal to today's conservative, but he's exactly my kind of politician. Sure, his time in Mass. has probably liberal'd him up a bit, but he's no liberal. Bongingo is overreacting IMO.
    Romney is whatever Romney needs to be in order to help Romney. There's no core or convictions with him other than what helps Mitt.
    What's Mitt's play here then? The majority of Utahns don't support impeachment, so what's the rub?
    Don't ever underestimate the self delusion of politicians. Every 4 years a bunch of them think they can be president even though no one else does

    Mitt is counting on a Trump loss this year or a big backlash after 4 more years to propel him to front runner status for 2024

    He has the name recognition which worked great for Jeb and Biden. Or not

    I think that is the play though
    Mitt had his chances.