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The downfall of Western Civ

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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,686 Standard Supporter
    I put my kids in private school until high school. Avoids many problems but it ain't cheap.
  • Postal91
    Postal91 Member Posts: 2,053
    edited December 2019
    FYI: Just mentioned this to my wife (former Seattle area teacher). Her reaction; What the fuck are they doing over there?! When we taught sex-ed the parents were allowed to request that their child didn't attend and they were able to go to the library during that time.

    YellowSnow; Looks like your kiddo needs some library time. Make it happen!
  • jhfstyle24
    jhfstyle24 Member Posts: 3,256
    As someone currently in the education system, there was not this effort when I was in kindergarten some 13 or so years ago.

    That being said, we only started really speaking about these issues ~6th grade ish, at the point where kids start to become capable of really generating their own opinions, so we could have discussion that weren't just our parents' opinions.

    Now in high school we have social justice day and allies club and LGBTQ+ club and diversity club and affinity group clubs and so on. It's come on pretty fast.

    To the kids in the system, it's no big deal and it's just part of life now that we should accept people for who they are, but I get the viewpoint of adults wondering why the fuck a country 27th in education is teaching these things.

    For example, my godfather's middle child identifies as non-binary. I'm used to that being acceptable, but my mother who went to a Catholic high school 30 years ago could not stop calling them "her" no matter how hard she tried. It's been a very rapid generational shift.

    Note: I also go to a school very much in the Seattle bubble, so there's that to consider. I'm sure this is more an elite private school thing than people think.
  • Postal91
    Postal91 Member Posts: 2,053
    dnc said:

    I'm usually not big on the "___________ is an agenda" stuff but the only reason you teach 5 year olds about transgender issues is if you have an agenda.

    They are indoctrinating these kids as fast as they can.

    Scary shit.

    Anything 'sexual' should be held off until at least 6th grade. And you are correct, introducing this to 5/6 yos is only done when you have an agenda.

    "Let's talk about which letter this is.... yup, that's an A. Great job, class. Now, do we all know about the spectrum of genders that a person can have and how today's society is attacking the bad bad traditional values that hurt you so very badly."
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    As someone currently in the education system, there was not this effort when I was in kindergarten some 13 or so years ago.

    That being said, we only started really speaking about these issues ~6th grade ish, at the point where kids start to become capable of really generating their own opinions, so we could have discussion that weren't just our parents' opinions.

    Now in high school we have social justice day and allies club and LGBTQ+ club and diversity club and affinity group clubs and so on. It's come on pretty fast.

    To the kids in the system, it's no big deal and it's just part of life now that we should accept people for who they are, but I get the viewpoint of adults wondering why the fuck a country 27th in education is teaching these things.

    For example, my godfather's middle child identifies as non-binary. I'm used to that being acceptable, but my mother who went to a Catholic high school 30 years ago could not stop calling them "her" no matter how hard she tried. It's been a very rapid generational shift.

    Note: I also go to a school very much in the Seattle bubble, so there's that to consider. I'm sure this is more an elite private school thing than people think.

    The think that's missing in dividing people into groups and saying "diversity is our strength" is that in the USA unity has been our strength. E Pluribus Enum. That doesn't mean people lose their identity, far from it. The identity of the individual is (or should be) above the collective.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Postal91 said:

    dnc said:

    I'm usually not big on the "___________ is an agenda" stuff but the only reason you teach 5 year olds about transgender issues is if you have an agenda.

    They are indoctrinating these kids as fast as they can.

    Scary shit.

    Anything 'sexual' should be held off until at least 6th grade. And you are correct, introducing this to 5/6 yos is only done when you have an agenda.

    "Let's talk about which letter this is.... yup, that's an A. Great job, class. Now, do we all know about the spectrum of genders that a person can have and how today's society is attacking the bad bad traditional values that hurt you so very badly."
    It's not sex, it's gender!










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