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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    It appears the quid pro quo was for a meeting, not a demand for investigation. No wonder Schiff and Company wanted all of this behind closed doors for over a month.

    Both. Pay attention.
    Only one can be proven. Or is the TDS so strong that burden of proof just doesn’t matter anymore?
    I think you mean that if trump didn't say "no aid money unless you investigate"? It's a stupid argument, since his actions were known to Ukraine soon enough and actions speak louder than words. It wasn't all on the same day, but over the course of a short window of a couple of months when this happened.
    How is this materially different than Biden's
    That's not what Biden said. I'd watch the video again. Then after that, I'd look at the facts and circumstances around his comment.
    Boldface. Pathological. Liar.
    Show me the video where Biden said "no aid if you DON'T stop investigating"?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,530 Standard Supporter
    GDS said:

    Life is one big quid pro quo

    Loosers have a hard time grasping that concept.

    the problem becomes when a president uses tax payer funded aid in a quid pro quo to advance his own political interests.
    But no problem when the tax payer funded quid pro quo protects the politician's personal and family interests.

    Got it. Makes total sense now.



  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    GDS said:

    Life is one big quid pro quo

    Loosers have a hard time grasping that concept.

    the problem becomes when a president uses tax payer funded aid in a quid pro quo to advance his own political interests.
    But no problem when the tax payer funded quid pro quo protects the politician's personal and family interests.

    Got it. Makes total sense now.



    Have you looked at the facts and circumstances around Bidens comment?
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    Life is one big quid pro quo

    Loosers have a hard time grasping that concept.

    the problem becomes when a president uses tax payer funded aid in a quid pro quo to advance his own political interests.
    I thought that investigating corruption and the Ukraine's role in the 2016 election was in our national interest?

    https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2019/11/05/uh-oh-hunter-bidens-name-pops-2016-state-dept-e-mails-discussing-end-burisma-corruption-probe/
    your opinion piece misrepresents when Biden made the request to Poroshenko pursuant to US, EU, IMF and Ukrainian anti-corruption advocate policy.
    Actually the opinion piece links to the email exchange from 2016 that show Hunter Biden's name was invoked by Ukrainian officials as a reason why the State Department should help with ending the corruption probe.



    that's not what the email shows and Biden didn't make the Shokin request in March 2016 as your opinion piece states. He made the push during a Dec 2015 trip to Ukraine. Realize that's not as convenient for your timeline but sorry to let facts get in your way.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,530 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2019
    2001400ex said:

    GDS said:

    Life is one big quid pro quo

    Loosers have a hard time grasping that concept.

    the problem becomes when a president uses tax payer funded aid in a quid pro quo to advance his own political interests.
    But no problem when the tax payer funded quid pro quo protects the politician's personal and family interests.

    Got it. Makes total sense now.



    Have you looked at the facts and circumstances around Bidens comment?
    There's 50,000 dollars facts per month that Hunter Biden pulled down. So, yes.

  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    GDS said:

    Life is one big quid pro quo

    Loosers have a hard time grasping that concept.

    the problem becomes when a president uses tax payer funded aid in a quid pro quo to advance his own political interests.
    But no problem when the tax payer funded quid pro quo protects the politician's personal and family interests.

    Got it. Makes total sense now.





    Unfortunately the facts don't support that conclusion but if they did I'd have a yuge problem with it.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    GDS said:

    Life is one big quid pro quo

    Loosers have a hard time grasping that concept.

    the problem becomes when a president uses tax payer funded aid in a quid pro quo to advance his own political interests.
    But no problem when the tax payer funded quid pro quo protects the politician's personal and family interests.

    Got it. Makes total sense now.



    Have you looked at the facts and circumstances around Bidens comment?
    There's 50,000 dollars facts per month that Hunter Biden pulled down. So, yes.

    Where is his work on a board illegal or impeachable?
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    It appears the quid pro quo was for a meeting, not a demand for investigation. No wonder Schiff and Company wanted all of this behind closed doors for over a month.

    Both. Pay attention.
    Only one can be proven. Or is the TDS so strong that burden of proof just doesn’t matter anymore?
    I think you mean that if trump didn't say "no aid money unless you investigate"? It's a stupid argument, since his actions were known to Ukraine soon enough and actions speak louder than words. It wasn't all on the same day, but over the course of a short window of a couple of months when this happened.
    How is this materially different than Biden's
    That's not what Biden said. I'd watch the video again. Then after that, I'd look at the facts and circumstances around his comment.
    Boldface. Pathological. Liar.
    Show me the video where Biden said "no aid if you DON'T stop investigating"?
    That part of $1 billion dollars do you not understand?
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Just came here to say that it's a bold move for the guy with a degree from Central to call out education as the differentiation of intelligence.

    Where did race get his college degree?