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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    pawz said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    salemcoog said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    salemcoog said:

    It appears the quid pro quo was for a meeting, not a demand for investigation. No wonder Schiff and Company wanted all of this behind closed doors for over a month.

    Both. Pay attention.
    Only one can be proven. Or is the TDS so strong that burden of proof just doesn’t matter anymore?
    I think you mean that if trump didn't say "no aid money unless you investigate"? It's a stupid argument, since his actions were known to Ukraine soon enough and actions speak louder than words. It wasn't all on the same day, but over the course of a short window of a couple of months when this happened.
    How is this material different than Biden's "no aid if you DON'T stop investigating"?
    Biden actually said it, and they really did fire the investigator before they money was released? Just a guess.
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  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    Remember when Gay Bob said if Trump tried to extort Ukraine with a quid pro quo that he'd be in trouble?


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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    insinceredawg said:

    Remember when Gay Bob said if Trump tried to extort Ukraine with a quid pro quo that he'd be in trouble?


    Remember when you made this claim a few weeks back and showed that you were a liar who was misrepresenting what I actually said?

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  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    insinceredawg said:

    pawz said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    Life is one big quid pro quo

    Loosers have a hard time grasping that concept.

    Fucking this.

    As is EVERY negotiation.
    There it is. The clockwork shill now admits quid pro quo is okay as long it's his side doing it. So why did Trump repeatedly scream "NO QUID PRO QUO!" for the last couple months?
    Hearsay! No quid pro quo!
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    edited November 2019
    insinceredawg said:

    pawz said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    Life is one big quid pro quo

    Loosers have a hard time grasping that concept.

    Fucking this.

    As is EVERY negotiation.
    There it is. The clockwork shill now admits quid pro quo is okay as long it's his side doing it. So why did Trump repeatedly scream "NO QUID PRO QUO!" for the last couple months?
    Dumber. Than. Hondo.

    And pressing. Hugely.
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  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    edited November 2019
    The GOP is only left with the flimsy rationalization of "fighting corruption." Never mind it's a political opponent ahead of Trump in the polls! For which there is no evidence whatsoever of corruption.
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    pawz said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    salemcoog said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    salemcoog said:

    It appears the quid pro quo was for a meeting, not a demand for investigation. No wonder Schiff and Company wanted all of this behind closed doors for over a month.

    Both. Pay attention.
    Only one can be proven. Or is the TDS so strong that burden of proof just doesn’t matter anymore?
    I think you mean that if trump didn't say "no aid money unless you investigate"? It's a stupid argument, since his actions were known to Ukraine soon enough and actions speak louder than words. It wasn't all on the same day, but over the course of a short window of a couple of months when this happened.
    How is this materially different than Biden's "no aid if you DON'T stop investigating"?
    and as usual you misrepresent the US position in regard to Shokin. The new prosecutor actually progressed on the once dormant investigation into the CEO of Burisma. Don't let the facts bog you down though....
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    PurpleThrobber said:

    Life is one big quid pro quo

    Loosers have a hard time grasping that concept.

    the problem becomes when a president uses tax payer funded aid in a quid pro quo to advance his own political interests.
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    edited November 2019
    Lots of TDS in this thread
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    GDS said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    Life is one big quid pro quo

    Loosers have a hard time grasping that concept.

    the problem becomes when a president uses tax payer funded aid in a quid pro quo to advance his own political interests.
    I thought that investigating corruption and the Ukraine's role in the 2016 election was in our national interest?

    https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2019/11/05/uh-oh-hunter-bidens-name-pops-2016-state-dept-e-mails-discussing-end-burisma-corruption-probe/
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