Vorel Bringing the Heat
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Being detailed means you have been in Petes program for years and earned the benefit of the doubt against talented players.
Pete is very risk averse 99% of the time, but then does some whacky trick play shit every now and then he thinks breaks the mold. Call it Boise State Fiesta Bowl PTSD.
Starting younger talented players is risky and could upset the supplanted upperclassmen. Pete doesnt like to rock the boat and thinks his system is more complicated than it really is.
All our star recruits besides Eason are underclasman so maybe this issue will be alleviated soon.
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@jecornel on his poad talked about Pete’s process and how unlikely Pete will change it. I think the problem is less about the process but more the offensive scheme. In a more contemporary offensive scheme, the best players would rise up. These players all know who’s the best. It’s no surprise. The process is making NFL players. The scheme is underutilizing the same players.
TL;DR - the players all know who’s the best - play them. -
We should hire Sark
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PHD_dawg posted a bit of a gut check post and I believe it was needed for a little rebalance of the hate towards the coaching staff.
However, the fact people are making millions from "just a game" warrants criticism when fans are being fleeced a lot of money and herded like sheep to buy "exclusive" apparel only to be purchased by bots to be flipped for cash. I guess that is the three-stripe life.
Should coaches be paid millions of dollars to be "molders of men?"
Pete is paid millions of dollars to win games which he has done. However, he has beaten a lot dreck over the years. I do applaud Pete for being a stand-up guy and supposedly not offering coffee cups. Reading about him paying respects to a former player passing away is a gesture of thoughtfulness and kindness. It is a trait we all admired in Don James. Don James a great football coach and a great human being.
Young adults that have chosen to enter a billion-dollar industry know that it comes with the media scrutiny, and fan criticism.
Vorel is doing an excellent job of poking holes in this offense, and it's beautiful. Nice to see the willingness to call a spade a spade.
Pete's process sucks. His process includes this so-called practice hard during the week means you play.
What do you mean by contemporary offense? They run a bunch of contemporary shit. They just ask nonphysical players to make physical plays on the outside. If you are going to run bubble screens and tunnel screens, you need good blockers and physical skill players to break arm tackles and shit. We run stupid shit that doesn't fit the starting Wr's. There is no identity to the offense. The empty set scheme is truly an embarrassment. -
“Here’s the thing,” UW’s sixth-year head coach said on Monday. “Guys, they put it on tape in practice, and people don’t understand … you’ve got to do it in practice; you can’t do it half the time or three-quarters of the time.
“Now, maybe do we need to rotate some more guys in there? Actually we’ve been trying to do that with certain personnel groups. But (those personnel groups) haven’t been getting called maybe as much as we thought they were. So we’ll take a better look at that and maybe rotate a few more guys in there.”
“They need to, one, be more detailed to what we’re doing out there,” Petersen said. “They’re making progress. They really are. They are practicing and they are getting a lot of reps out there. They just aren’t where the other guys are right now. But they are growing and they’re getting better all the time.
“You (reporters) don’t cover practice. You don’t see what’s going on out there. That’s no knock on those guys. They’re getting better. They’re young players. That’s what it is.”
“There’s no timetable. It’s when a guy picks it up,” Petersen said. “We’ve played freshmen out there: Dante Pettis, John Ross played as a true (freshman), all those types of things. As long as they can pick it up, they can play.
“When a guy is playing, you’d love to get him more involved. Puka (Nacua’s) playing and we’d like to get him more involved just being out there on the field. We do pay attention to that. But that’s not the issue. That wasn’t the issue on Saturday. The guys that we were going to, we need to be more detailed there. Those guys are our most detailed guys right now.”
“Obviously we’re looking to give those guys an opportunity,” offensive coordinator Bush Hamdan said of the young receivers. “We need some guys to step up and make plays on the outside. The evaluation process is not just a one-week thing during the year. This is going back to spring ball through fall camp through the season.
“As you guys know, the best players will play. This is big-time ball. So whoever those guys end up being, they’ll be playing on Saturday.”
“We want to go up and snatch the football,” Adams said of his players’ mentality this week. “We want to study the crosshairs. We want to get off the ground. We want to rotate our shoulders. We want to make a triangle with our hands and we want to snatch the football.
“We emphasize being a frisbee-snatching dog. When the ball’s in the air, it’s ours. That’s what we preach. We say that every day.”
“I think some of the young guys are progressing as the season has gone on,” Adams said. “I think Spiker’s progressing. I think Terrell Bynum, his snap count has gone up. Puka’s snap count has gone up. We’re just going to keep getting better each week, and these guys’ roles are going to keep increasing with the way they practice.”
He mentions playing Pettis and Ross as freshman, showing he’s not against playing freshman. What it says is he truly believes that the young kids on this roster haven’t picked up the playbook, not that they aren’t talented enough.
Which again proves your fucking offense sucks and you need to change your system so freshman can pick it up. WR is supposed to be the position young kids can play right away at. -
How hard is it to script two different routes? Puka, all you're going to do is a fade and post, got that. Osborne can you handle a 5 and out or a quick slant? Ok, those are yours this season.DoogCourics said:“Here’s the thing,” UW’s sixth-year head coach said on Monday. “Guys, they put it on tape in practice, and people don’t understand … you’ve got to do it in practice; you can’t do it half the time or three-quarters of the time.
“Now, maybe do we need to rotate some more guys in there? Actually we’ve been trying to do that with certain personnel groups. But (those personnel groups) haven’t been getting called maybe as much as we thought they were. So we’ll take a better look at that and maybe rotate a few more guys in there.”
“They need to, one, be more detailed to what we’re doing out there,” Petersen said. “They’re making progress. They really are. They are practicing and they are getting a lot of reps out there. They just aren’t where the other guys are right now. But they are growing and they’re getting better all the time.
“You (reporters) don’t cover practice. You don’t see what’s going on out there. That’s no knock on those guys. They’re getting better. They’re young players. That’s what it is.”
“There’s no timetable. It’s when a guy picks it up,” Petersen said. “We’ve played freshmen out there: Dante Pettis, John Ross played as a true (freshman), all those types of things. As long as they can pick it up, they can play.
“When a guy is playing, you’d love to get him more involved. Puka (Nacua’s) playing and we’d like to get him more involved just being out there on the field. We do pay attention to that. But that’s not the issue. That wasn’t the issue on Saturday. The guys that we were going to, we need to be more detailed there. Those guys are our most detailed guys right now.”
“Obviously we’re looking to give those guys an opportunity,” offensive coordinator Bush Hamdan said of the young receivers. “We need some guys to step up and make plays on the outside. The evaluation process is not just a one-week thing during the year. This is going back to spring ball through fall camp through the season.
“As you guys know, the best players will play. This is big-time ball. So whoever those guys end up being, they’ll be playing on Saturday.”
“We want to go up and snatch the football,” Adams said of his players’ mentality this week. “We want to study the crosshairs. We want to get off the ground. We want to rotate our shoulders. We want to make a triangle with our hands and we want to snatch the football.
“We emphasize being a frisbee-snatching dog. When the ball’s in the air, it’s ours. That’s what we preach. We say that every day.”
“I think some of the young guys are progressing as the season has gone on,” Adams said. “I think Spiker’s progressing. I think Terrell Bynum, his snap count has gone up. Puka’s snap count has gone up. We’re just going to keep getting better each week, and these guys’ roles are going to keep increasing with the way they practice.”
He mentions playing Pettis and Ross as freshman, showing he’s not against playing freshman. What it says is he truly believes that the young kids on this roster haven’t picked up the playbook, not that they aren’t talented enough.
Which again proves your fucking offense sucks and you need to change your system so freshman can pick it up. WR is supposed to be the position young kids can play right away at.
Nobody gets open, nobody catches, nobody blocks, nobody makes anyone miss.
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Our coaches are so corny...DoogCourics said:
“We want to go up and snatch the football,” Adams said of his players’ mentality this week. “We want to study the crosshairs. We want to get off the ground. We want to rotate our shoulders. We want to make a triangle with our hands and we want to snatch the football.
“We emphasize being a frisbee-snatching dog. When the ball’s in the air, it’s ours. That’s what we preach. We say that every day.”
I bet Puka's got some regrets...
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no wonder the offense sucks
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Sounds like a bunch of fucking bullshit.DoogCourics said:“Here’s the thing,” UW’s sixth-year head coach said on Monday. “Guys, they put it on tape in practice, and people don’t understand … you’ve got to do it in practice; you can’t do it half the time or three-quarters of the time.
“Now, maybe do we need to rotate some more guys in there? Actually we’ve been trying to do that with certain personnel groups. But (those personnel groups) haven’t been getting called maybe as much as we thought they were. So we’ll take a better look at that and maybe rotate a few more guys in there.”
“They need to, one, be more detailed to what we’re doing out there,” Petersen said. “They’re making progress. They really are. They are practicing and they are getting a lot of reps out there. They just aren’t where the other guys are right now. But they are growing and they’re getting better all the time.
“You (reporters) don’t cover practice. You don’t see what’s going on out there. That’s no knock on those guys. They’re getting better. They’re young players. That’s what it is.”
“There’s no timetable. It’s when a guy picks it up,” Petersen said. “We’ve played freshmen out there: Dante Pettis, John Ross played as a true (freshman), all those types of things. As long as they can pick it up, they can play.
“When a guy is playing, you’d love to get him more involved. Puka (Nacua’s) playing and we’d like to get him more involved just being out there on the field. We do pay attention to that. But that’s not the issue. That wasn’t the issue on Saturday. The guys that we were going to, we need to be more detailed there. Those guys are our most detailed guys right now.”
“Obviously we’re looking to give those guys an opportunity,” offensive coordinator Bush Hamdan said of the young receivers. “We need some guys to step up and make plays on the outside. The evaluation process is not just a one-week thing during the year. This is going back to spring ball through fall camp through the season.
“As you guys know, the best players will play. This is big-time ball. So whoever those guys end up being, they’ll be playing on Saturday.”
“We want to go up and snatch the football,” Adams said of his players’ mentality this week. “We want to study the crosshairs. We want to get off the ground. We want to rotate our shoulders. We want to make a triangle with our hands and we want to snatch the football.
“We emphasize being a frisbee-snatching dog. When the ball’s in the air, it’s ours. That’s what we preach. We say that every day.”
“I think some of the young guys are progressing as the season has gone on,” Adams said. “I think Spiker’s progressing. I think Terrell Bynum, his snap count has gone up. Puka’s snap count has gone up. We’re just going to keep getting better each week, and these guys’ roles are going to keep increasing with the way they practice.”
He mentions playing Pettis and Ross as freshman, showing he’s not against playing freshman. What it says is he truly believes that the young kids on this roster haven’t picked up the playbook, not that they aren’t talented enough.
Which again proves your fucking offense sucks and you need to change your system so freshman can pick it up. WR is supposed to be the position young kids can play right away at.
What he doesn't really address is the inequity of such a process. Especially in today's talent meta.
The kids see it.
Now that the talent is far greater than what he's accustomed to at Boise he's got to adjust accordingly.
If he can hold all these very talented kids in thrall with this built for life stuff then great.
Given that he's shown weaknesses in gameplanning and gameday adjustments that's still very concerting.
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You play stars all the time. While I know Fuller is our best WR, he’s not a star. Baccellia is a mediocre at best WR and it’s baffling he has a stranglehold on one of the WR spots. Nobody outside of Fuller and Baccellia has even got a chance to show if they can do anything.
Get the younger guys some reps in games. We rotate a lot on defense, why not on offense? The might even become more “detailed” and practice better if they felt involved.
I don’t know, it all seems strange. At this point it feels like Pete is doubling down. You know he hates being questioned by dumbass fans and the media, but it comes with the territory.
Another part of me feels like the back up WR’s aren’t any good and that’s why they don’t play. We make fun of Pete and how much he loves practice, but they really do see these players every day. I have a hard time believing a good player would be kept off the field.
Pete deserves to be questioned. He’s talked a lot about improving the offense, but it hasn’t improved. The WR’s have not played well for the third year in a row. -
I still think the scheme is holding them back. An offense designed to shift and identify what the D is giving you is garbage in this day and at this level. We have the horses to be more aggressive. We don’t have the conviction to pound the rock consistently and open up the passing game. We underutilize the TE position to open up the field. Herm Edwards would absolutely destroy the Dawgs this year. He would run the ball down out throat the whole game, and he’d run zone D challenging us to run the ball to beat him.
I have no sympathy for Pete. His process for developing his players is awesome. He’s paid huge money. Over a 162 game season, he’d probably win out. In a small sample like a football season, you have to sell out every game. There’s only 12 games. Every game matters. I do not think he still has that sense of urgency. -
This all reminds me of last year when we were clamoring for Haener all season long. Pete finally put him in when the stakes mattered. We all know what happened next.RoadDawg55 said:You play stars all the time. While I know Fuller is our best WR, he’s not a star. Baccellia is a mediocre at best WR and it’s baffling he has a stranglehold on one of the WR spots. Nobody outside of Fuller and Baccellia has even got a chance to show if they can do anything.
Get the younger guys some reps in games. We rotate a lot on defense, why not on offense? The might even become more “detailed” and practice better if they felt involved.
I don’t know, it all seems strange. At this point it feels like Pete is doubling down. You know he hates being questioned by dumbass fans and the media, but it comes with the territory.
Another part of me feels like the back up WR’s aren’t any good and that’s why they don’t play. We make fun of Pete and how much he loves practice, but they really do see these players every day. I have a hard time believing a good player would be kept off the field.
Pete deserves to be questioned. He’s talked a lot about improving the offense, but it hasn’t improved. The WR’s have not played well for the third year in a row.
What's worrisome is that Pete's personnel choices have rarely been wrong in the past. It might be entirely possible that everyone behind Fuller and Opera really are that bad. In which case we have a much bigger issue with the offense and WR development. With as much young talent as we have, and as relatively easy as it is for young WRs to get on the field early in their careers in the college game, there's no excuse for not a single one of these guys emerging as a play maker. -
I love this guy. He’s a pipe hitting nega dawg.
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@DerekJohnson you should personally reach out and send a fella an official inviteYellowSnow said:I love this guy. He’s a pipe hitting nega dawg.
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I'm sure Vorel would want to keep reading HCH in stealth mode. Can't see him poasting here. Wouldn't be good for his brand.FirePete said:
@DerekJohnson you should personally reach out and send a fella an official inviteYellowSnow said:I love this guy. He’s a pipe hitting nega dawg.
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“Obviously we’re looking to give those guys an opportunity,” offensive coordinator Bush Hamdan said of the young receivers.
no, bush, you're not looking to give 'those guys' an opportunity.
you play them for a meaningful number of plays or you don't.
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It would be stupid for him to do so. But there's no doubt he's on here daily. We're a true barometer for him.PurpleBaze said:
I'm sure Vorel would want to keep reading HCH in stealth mode. Can't see him poasting here. Wouldn't be good for his brand.FirePete said:
@DerekJohnson you should personally reach out and send a fella an official inviteYellowSnow said:I love this guy. He’s a pipe hitting nega dawg.
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CarefulYellowSnow said:I love this guy. He’s a pipe hitting nega dawg.
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@mikevorel next topic the issue of the ILB play. HorribleDerekJohnson said:
It would be stupid for him to do so. But there's no doubt he's on here daily. We're a true barometer for him.PurpleBaze said:
I'm sure Vorel would want to keep reading HCH in stealth mode. Can't see him poasting here. Wouldn't be good for his brand.FirePete said:
@DerekJohnson you should personally reach out and send a fella an official inviteYellowSnow said:I love this guy. He’s a pipe hitting nega dawg.
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We’ll really know next year when the incoming freshman WR’s are enrolled. My guess is the guys we are clamoring to get in (Osborne and Spiker) get passed up and all of this starts to make a little more sense.GreenRiverGatorz said:
This all reminds me of last year when we were clamoring for Haener all season long. Pete finally put him in when the stakes mattered. We all know what happened next.RoadDawg55 said:You play stars all the time. While I know Fuller is our best WR, he’s not a star. Baccellia is a mediocre at best WR and it’s baffling he has a stranglehold on one of the WR spots. Nobody outside of Fuller and Baccellia has even got a chance to show if they can do anything.
Get the younger guys some reps in games. We rotate a lot on defense, why not on offense? The might even become more “detailed” and practice better if they felt involved.
I don’t know, it all seems strange. At this point it feels like Pete is doubling down. You know he hates being questioned by dumbass fans and the media, but it comes with the territory.
Another part of me feels like the back up WR’s aren’t any good and that’s why they don’t play. We make fun of Pete and how much he loves practice, but they really do see these players every day. I have a hard time believing a good player would be kept off the field.
Pete deserves to be questioned. He’s talked a lot about improving the offense, but it hasn’t improved. The WR’s have not played well for the third year in a row.
What's worrisome is that Pete's personnel choices have rarely been wrong in the past. It might be entirely possible that everyone behind Fuller and Opera really are that bad. In which case we have a much bigger issue with the offense and WR development. With as much young talent as we have, and as relatively easy as it is for young WRs to get on the field early in their careers in the college game, there's no excuse for not a single one of these guys emerging as a play maker.
Side note, after seeing how soft our WR’s are, I’m getting more excited for Raccanelli. Underrated recruit. I doubt he will be soft and will add something we need. -
Until Peterman's system neuters him?RoadDawg55 said:
We’ll really know next year when the incoming freshman WR’s are enrolled. My guess is the guys we are clamoring to get in (Osborne and Spiker) get passed up and all of this starts to make a little more sense.GreenRiverGatorz said:
This all reminds me of last year when we were clamoring for Haener all season long. Pete finally put him in when the stakes mattered. We all know what happened next.RoadDawg55 said:You play stars all the time. While I know Fuller is our best WR, he’s not a star. Baccellia is a mediocre at best WR and it’s baffling he has a stranglehold on one of the WR spots. Nobody outside of Fuller and Baccellia has even got a chance to show if they can do anything.
Get the younger guys some reps in games. We rotate a lot on defense, why not on offense? The might even become more “detailed” and practice better if they felt involved.
I don’t know, it all seems strange. At this point it feels like Pete is doubling down. You know he hates being questioned by dumbass fans and the media, but it comes with the territory.
Another part of me feels like the back up WR’s aren’t any good and that’s why they don’t play. We make fun of Pete and how much he loves practice, but they really do see these players every day. I have a hard time believing a good player would be kept off the field.
Pete deserves to be questioned. He’s talked a lot about improving the offense, but it hasn’t improved. The WR’s have not played well for the third year in a row.
What's worrisome is that Pete's personnel choices have rarely been wrong in the past. It might be entirely possible that everyone behind Fuller and Opera really are that bad. In which case we have a much bigger issue with the offense and WR development. With as much young talent as we have, and as relatively easy as it is for young WRs to get on the field early in their careers in the college game, there's no excuse for not a single one of these guys emerging as a play maker.
Side note, after seeing how soft our WR’s are, I’m getting more excited for Raccanelli. Underrated recruit. I doubt he will be soft and will add something we need. -
Manu's mustache, though...FirePete said:
@mikevorel next topic the issue of the ILB play. HorribleDerekJohnson said:
It would be stupid for him to do so. But there's no doubt he's on here daily. We're a true barometer for him.PurpleBaze said:
I'm sure Vorel would want to keep reading HCH in stealth mode. Can't see him poasting here. Wouldn't be good for his brand.FirePete said:
@DerekJohnson you should personally reach out and send a fella an official inviteYellowSnow said:I love this guy. He’s a pipe hitting nega dawg.
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@RoadDawg55 has been a voice of reason this week. Pete's probably earned a turd of a season, where things just don't gel the way you'd want. But still....fix this shit or tick, tick, tick...RoadDawg55 said:
We’ll really know next year when the incoming freshman WR’s are enrolled. My guess is the guys we are clamoring to get in (Osborne and Spiker) get passed up and all of this starts to make a little more sense.GreenRiverGatorz said:
This all reminds me of last year when we were clamoring for Haener all season long. Pete finally put him in when the stakes mattered. We all know what happened next.RoadDawg55 said:You play stars all the time. While I know Fuller is our best WR, he’s not a star. Baccellia is a mediocre at best WR and it’s baffling he has a stranglehold on one of the WR spots. Nobody outside of Fuller and Baccellia has even got a chance to show if they can do anything.
Get the younger guys some reps in games. We rotate a lot on defense, why not on offense? The might even become more “detailed” and practice better if they felt involved.
I don’t know, it all seems strange. At this point it feels like Pete is doubling down. You know he hates being questioned by dumbass fans and the media, but it comes with the territory.
Another part of me feels like the back up WR’s aren’t any good and that’s why they don’t play. We make fun of Pete and how much he loves practice, but they really do see these players every day. I have a hard time believing a good player would be kept off the field.
Pete deserves to be questioned. He’s talked a lot about improving the offense, but it hasn’t improved. The WR’s have not played well for the third year in a row.
What's worrisome is that Pete's personnel choices have rarely been wrong in the past. It might be entirely possible that everyone behind Fuller and Opera really are that bad. In which case we have a much bigger issue with the offense and WR development. With as much young talent as we have, and as relatively easy as it is for young WRs to get on the field early in their careers in the college game, there's no excuse for not a single one of these guys emerging as a play maker.
Side note, after seeing how soft our WR’s are, I’m getting more excited for Raccanelli. Underrated recruit. I doubt he will be soft and will add something we need. -
If we going to piss the season away, which I am ok with. Let’s invest in the future and let the young kids play and build skill. But to roll out with Manu, beef Wellington, clutchskins, opera singer. Why invest in those scrubs, this is their last year of playing football, let’s accelerate that endYellowSnow said:
@RoadDawg55 has been a voice of reason this week. Pete's probably earned a turd of a season, where things just don't gel the way you'd want. But still....fix this shit or tick, tick, tick...RoadDawg55 said:
We’ll really know next year when the incoming freshman WR’s are enrolled. My guess is the guys we are clamoring to get in (Osborne and Spiker) get passed up and all of this starts to make a little more sense.GreenRiverGatorz said:
This all reminds me of last year when we were clamoring for Haener all season long. Pete finally put him in when the stakes mattered. We all know what happened next.RoadDawg55 said:You play stars all the time. While I know Fuller is our best WR, he’s not a star. Baccellia is a mediocre at best WR and it’s baffling he has a stranglehold on one of the WR spots. Nobody outside of Fuller and Baccellia has even got a chance to show if they can do anything.
Get the younger guys some reps in games. We rotate a lot on defense, why not on offense? The might even become more “detailed” and practice better if they felt involved.
I don’t know, it all seems strange. At this point it feels like Pete is doubling down. You know he hates being questioned by dumbass fans and the media, but it comes with the territory.
Another part of me feels like the back up WR’s aren’t any good and that’s why they don’t play. We make fun of Pete and how much he loves practice, but they really do see these players every day. I have a hard time believing a good player would be kept off the field.
Pete deserves to be questioned. He’s talked a lot about improving the offense, but it hasn’t improved. The WR’s have not played well for the third year in a row.
What's worrisome is that Pete's personnel choices have rarely been wrong in the past. It might be entirely possible that everyone behind Fuller and Opera really are that bad. In which case we have a much bigger issue with the offense and WR development. With as much young talent as we have, and as relatively easy as it is for young WRs to get on the field early in their careers in the college game, there's no excuse for not a single one of these guys emerging as a play maker.
Side note, after seeing how soft our WR’s are, I’m getting more excited for Raccanelli. Underrated recruit. I doubt he will be soft and will add something we need. -
We are a recruiting school
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Don’t say it race. Please don’tRaceBannon said:We are a recruiting school
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*TBSRaceBannon said:We are a recruiting school
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We still aren’t there. A loss to Arizona this week and I agree that it’s time to punt the season and develop the younger guys we have.FirePete said:
If we going to piss the season away, which I am ok with. Let’s invest in the future and let the young kids play and build skill. But to roll out with Manu, beef Wellington, clutchskins, opera singer. Why invest in those scrubs, this is their last year of playing football, let’s accelerate that endYellowSnow said:
@RoadDawg55 has been a voice of reason this week. Pete's probably earned a turd of a season, where things just don't gel the way you'd want. But still....fix this shit or tick, tick, tick...RoadDawg55 said:
We’ll really know next year when the incoming freshman WR’s are enrolled. My guess is the guys we are clamoring to get in (Osborne and Spiker) get passed up and all of this starts to make a little more sense.GreenRiverGatorz said:
This all reminds me of last year when we were clamoring for Haener all season long. Pete finally put him in when the stakes mattered. We all know what happened next.RoadDawg55 said:You play stars all the time. While I know Fuller is our best WR, he’s not a star. Baccellia is a mediocre at best WR and it’s baffling he has a stranglehold on one of the WR spots. Nobody outside of Fuller and Baccellia has even got a chance to show if they can do anything.
Get the younger guys some reps in games. We rotate a lot on defense, why not on offense? The might even become more “detailed” and practice better if they felt involved.
I don’t know, it all seems strange. At this point it feels like Pete is doubling down. You know he hates being questioned by dumbass fans and the media, but it comes with the territory.
Another part of me feels like the back up WR’s aren’t any good and that’s why they don’t play. We make fun of Pete and how much he loves practice, but they really do see these players every day. I have a hard time believing a good player would be kept off the field.
Pete deserves to be questioned. He’s talked a lot about improving the offense, but it hasn’t improved. The WR’s have not played well for the third year in a row.
What's worrisome is that Pete's personnel choices have rarely been wrong in the past. It might be entirely possible that everyone behind Fuller and Opera really are that bad. In which case we have a much bigger issue with the offense and WR development. With as much young talent as we have, and as relatively easy as it is for young WRs to get on the field early in their careers in the college game, there's no excuse for not a single one of these guys emerging as a play maker.
Side note, after seeing how soft our WR’s are, I’m getting more excited for Raccanelli. Underrated recruit. I doubt he will be soft and will add something we need. -
Matt Calkins continuing to bring the heat with Vorel from the Times:
“With Petersen at the helm, the Huskies have lost their past 10 games in which they were behind at the half, and 15 of their past 16. They also have blown four first-half leads in that span, and lost to Oregon last season when the game was tied at the break.”
“These numbers should not detract from Petersen’s Huskies reaching a New Year’s Six game in each of their past three seasons while winning two of the past three Pac-12 title games. And they don’t reflect UW’s ability to hold or expand leads over that stretch, which has been impressive.”
“But those post-half stats do call into question Petersen’s ability to adapt when facing adversity. And right now — the Huskies desperately need to adapt.”
“With defeats against unranked California and Stanford in 2019, though, the Huskies (4-2, 1-2 Pac-12) are wounded with the meat of their schedule still in front of them. And if ever there was a time for the Pac-12’s highest-paid coach to earn his money — it’s now.”
“In Pac-12 games not involving Washington, Cal and Stanford are a combined 1-4 this season. But both were able to batter the Huskies up front while taking advantage of a substandard passing game.”
“Aside from the lightning-induced delay during the Cal game, there was nothing particularly fluky about either of these defeats. The Huskies just got beat — in remarkably similar fashion.”
Calkins then brings up the young receivers not playing because they aren’t practicing as well as Petersen would like:
“Think of someone such as former USC quarterback Sam Darnold, who transformed the Trojans as a redshirt freshman when he got a shot in Week 4. Or Jaguars quarterback Gardner Minshew, who went from second-stringer to NFL offensive rookie of the year candidate after his predecessor went down with an injury.”
“These young receivers are practicing against a defense that knows the playbook. Is it crazy to think they might shine brighter in the play than the dress rehearsal?”
So can Pete figure it out?:
“Last year, after a stunning late-October loss to Cal, the Huskies won four in a row en route to capturing the Pac-12 title. This season, a shot at a conference title seems far more dubious.”
“What’s clear is that this year’s Huskies need to change for the better. The question is whether Petersen can make that happen.” -
I don’t know roadie, I don’t see us beating Oregon. The DL play is good, but not at point where they can make up for deficiencies at LB. they are horrible. Honestly the drop off from beef Wellington and Manu to sirmon and tafisi is not that high, almost equally shittyRoadDawg55 said:
We still aren’t there. A loss to Arizona this week and I agree that it’s time to punt the season and develop the younger guys we have.FirePete said:
If we going to piss the season away, which I am ok with. Let’s invest in the future and let the young kids play and build skill. But to roll out with Manu, beef Wellington, clutchskins, opera singer. Why invest in those scrubs, this is their last year of playing football, let’s accelerate that endYellowSnow said:
@RoadDawg55 has been a voice of reason this week. Pete's probably earned a turd of a season, where things just don't gel the way you'd want. But still....fix this shit or tick, tick, tick...RoadDawg55 said:
We’ll really know next year when the incoming freshman WR’s are enrolled. My guess is the guys we are clamoring to get in (Osborne and Spiker) get passed up and all of this starts to make a little more sense.GreenRiverGatorz said:
This all reminds me of last year when we were clamoring for Haener all season long. Pete finally put him in when the stakes mattered. We all know what happened next.RoadDawg55 said:You play stars all the time. While I know Fuller is our best WR, he’s not a star. Baccellia is a mediocre at best WR and it’s baffling he has a stranglehold on one of the WR spots. Nobody outside of Fuller and Baccellia has even got a chance to show if they can do anything.
Get the younger guys some reps in games. We rotate a lot on defense, why not on offense? The might even become more “detailed” and practice better if they felt involved.
I don’t know, it all seems strange. At this point it feels like Pete is doubling down. You know he hates being questioned by dumbass fans and the media, but it comes with the territory.
Another part of me feels like the back up WR’s aren’t any good and that’s why they don’t play. We make fun of Pete and how much he loves practice, but they really do see these players every day. I have a hard time believing a good player would be kept off the field.
Pete deserves to be questioned. He’s talked a lot about improving the offense, but it hasn’t improved. The WR’s have not played well for the third year in a row.
What's worrisome is that Pete's personnel choices have rarely been wrong in the past. It might be entirely possible that everyone behind Fuller and Opera really are that bad. In which case we have a much bigger issue with the offense and WR development. With as much young talent as we have, and as relatively easy as it is for young WRs to get on the field early in their careers in the college game, there's no excuse for not a single one of these guys emerging as a play maker.
Side note, after seeing how soft our WR’s are, I’m getting more excited for Raccanelli. Underrated recruit. I doubt he will be soft and will add something we need.
