You play stars all the time. While I know Fuller is our best WR, he’s not a star. Baccellia is a mediocre at best WR and it’s baffling he has a stranglehold on one of the WR spots. Nobody outside of Fuller and Baccellia has even got a chance to show if they can do anything.
Get the younger guys some reps in games. We rotate a lot on defense, why not on offense? The might even become more “detailed” and practice better if they felt involved.
I don’t know, it all seems strange. At this point it feels like Pete is doubling down. You know he hates being questioned by dumbass fans and the media, but it comes with the territory.
Another part of me feels like the back up WR’s aren’t any good and that’s why they don’t play. We make fun of Pete and how much he loves practice, but they really do see these players every day. I have a hard time believing a good player would be kept off the field.
Pete deserves to be questioned. He’s talked a lot about improving the offense, but it hasn’t improved. The WR’s have not played well for the third year in a row.
This all reminds me of last year when we were clamoring for Haener all season long. Pete finally put him in when the stakes mattered. We all know what happened next.
What's worrisome is that Pete's personnel choices have rarely been wrong in the past. It might be entirely possible that everyone behind Fuller and Opera really are that bad. In which case we have a much bigger issue with the offense and WR development. With as much young talent as we have, and as relatively easy as it is for young WRs to get on the field early in their careers in the college game, there's no excuse for not a single one of these guys emerging as a play maker.
We’ll really know next year when the incoming freshman WR’s are enrolled. My guess is the guys we are clamoring to get in (Osborne and Spiker) get passed up and all of this starts to make a little more sense.
Side note, after seeing how soft our WR’s are, I’m getting more excited for Raccanelli. Underrated recruit. I doubt he will be soft and will add something we need.
You play stars all the time. While I know Fuller is our best WR, he’s not a star. Baccellia is a mediocre at best WR and it’s baffling he has a stranglehold on one of the WR spots. Nobody outside of Fuller and Baccellia has even got a chance to show if they can do anything.
Get the younger guys some reps in games. We rotate a lot on defense, why not on offense? The might even become more “detailed” and practice better if they felt involved.
I don’t know, it all seems strange. At this point it feels like Pete is doubling down. You know he hates being questioned by dumbass fans and the media, but it comes with the territory.
Another part of me feels like the back up WR’s aren’t any good and that’s why they don’t play. We make fun of Pete and how much he loves practice, but they really do see these players every day. I have a hard time believing a good player would be kept off the field.
Pete deserves to be questioned. He’s talked a lot about improving the offense, but it hasn’t improved. The WR’s have not played well for the third year in a row.
This all reminds me of last year when we were clamoring for Haener all season long. Pete finally put him in when the stakes mattered. We all know what happened next.
What's worrisome is that Pete's personnel choices have rarely been wrong in the past. It might be entirely possible that everyone behind Fuller and Opera really are that bad. In which case we have a much bigger issue with the offense and WR development. With as much young talent as we have, and as relatively easy as it is for young WRs to get on the field early in their careers in the college game, there's no excuse for not a single one of these guys emerging as a play maker.
We’ll really know next year when the incoming freshman WR’s are enrolled. My guess is the guys we are clamoring to get in (Osborne and Spiker) get passed up and all of this starts to make a little more sense.
Side note, after seeing how soft our WR’s are, I’m getting more excited for Raccanelli. Underrated recruit. I doubt he will be soft and will add something we need.
@RoadDawg55 has been a voice of reason this week. Pete's probably earned a turd of a season, where things just don't gel the way you'd want. But still....fix this shit or tick, tick, tick...
You play stars all the time. While I know Fuller is our best WR, he’s not a star. Baccellia is a mediocre at best WR and it’s baffling he has a stranglehold on one of the WR spots. Nobody outside of Fuller and Baccellia has even got a chance to show if they can do anything.
Get the younger guys some reps in games. We rotate a lot on defense, why not on offense? The might even become more “detailed” and practice better if they felt involved.
I don’t know, it all seems strange. At this point it feels like Pete is doubling down. You know he hates being questioned by dumbass fans and the media, but it comes with the territory.
Another part of me feels like the back up WR’s aren’t any good and that’s why they don’t play. We make fun of Pete and how much he loves practice, but they really do see these players every day. I have a hard time believing a good player would be kept off the field.
Pete deserves to be questioned. He’s talked a lot about improving the offense, but it hasn’t improved. The WR’s have not played well for the third year in a row.
This all reminds me of last year when we were clamoring for Haener all season long. Pete finally put him in when the stakes mattered. We all know what happened next.
What's worrisome is that Pete's personnel choices have rarely been wrong in the past. It might be entirely possible that everyone behind Fuller and Opera really are that bad. In which case we have a much bigger issue with the offense and WR development. With as much young talent as we have, and as relatively easy as it is for young WRs to get on the field early in their careers in the college game, there's no excuse for not a single one of these guys emerging as a play maker.
We’ll really know next year when the incoming freshman WR’s are enrolled. My guess is the guys we are clamoring to get in (Osborne and Spiker) get passed up and all of this starts to make a little more sense.
Side note, after seeing how soft our WR’s are, I’m getting more excited for Raccanelli. Underrated recruit. I doubt he will be soft and will add something we need.
@RoadDawg55 has been a voice of reason this week. Pete's probably earned a turd of a season, where things just don't gel the way you'd want. But still....fix this shit or tick, tick, tick...
If we going to piss the season away, which I am ok with. Let’s invest in the future and let the young kids play and build skill. But to roll out with Manu, beef Wellington, clutchskins, opera singer. Why invest in those scrubs, this is their last year of playing football, let’s accelerate that end
You play stars all the time. While I know Fuller is our best WR, he’s not a star. Baccellia is a mediocre at best WR and it’s baffling he has a stranglehold on one of the WR spots. Nobody outside of Fuller and Baccellia has even got a chance to show if they can do anything.
Get the younger guys some reps in games. We rotate a lot on defense, why not on offense? The might even become more “detailed” and practice better if they felt involved.
I don’t know, it all seems strange. At this point it feels like Pete is doubling down. You know he hates being questioned by dumbass fans and the media, but it comes with the territory.
Another part of me feels like the back up WR’s aren’t any good and that’s why they don’t play. We make fun of Pete and how much he loves practice, but they really do see these players every day. I have a hard time believing a good player would be kept off the field.
Pete deserves to be questioned. He’s talked a lot about improving the offense, but it hasn’t improved. The WR’s have not played well for the third year in a row.
This all reminds me of last year when we were clamoring for Haener all season long. Pete finally put him in when the stakes mattered. We all know what happened next.
What's worrisome is that Pete's personnel choices have rarely been wrong in the past. It might be entirely possible that everyone behind Fuller and Opera really are that bad. In which case we have a much bigger issue with the offense and WR development. With as much young talent as we have, and as relatively easy as it is for young WRs to get on the field early in their careers in the college game, there's no excuse for not a single one of these guys emerging as a play maker.
We’ll really know next year when the incoming freshman WR’s are enrolled. My guess is the guys we are clamoring to get in (Osborne and Spiker) get passed up and all of this starts to make a little more sense.
Side note, after seeing how soft our WR’s are, I’m getting more excited for Raccanelli. Underrated recruit. I doubt he will be soft and will add something we need.
@RoadDawg55 has been a voice of reason this week. Pete's probably earned a turd of a season, where things just don't gel the way you'd want. But still....fix this shit or tick, tick, tick...
If we going to piss the season away, which I am ok with. Let’s invest in the future and let the young kids play and build skill. But to roll out with Manu, beef Wellington, clutchskins, opera singer. Why invest in those scrubs, this is their last year of playing football, let’s accelerate that end
We still aren’t there. A loss to Arizona this week and I agree that it’s time to punt the season and develop the younger guys we have.
Matt Calkins continuing to bring the heat with Vorel from the Times:
“With Petersen at the helm, the Huskies have lost their past 10 games in which they were behind at the half, and 15 of their past 16. They also have blown four first-half leads in that span, and lost to Oregon last season when the game was tied at the break.”
“These numbers should not detract from Petersen’s Huskies reaching a New Year’s Six game in each of their past three seasons while winning two of the past three Pac-12 title games. And they don’t reflect UW’s ability to hold or expand leads over that stretch, which has been impressive.”
“But those post-half stats do call into question Petersen’s ability to adapt when facing adversity. And right now — the Huskies desperately need to adapt.”
“With defeats against unranked California and Stanford in 2019, though, the Huskies (4-2, 1-2 Pac-12) are wounded with the meat of their schedule still in front of them. And if ever there was a time for the Pac-12’s highest-paid coach to earn his money — it’s now.”
“In Pac-12 games not involving Washington, Cal and Stanford are a combined 1-4 this season. But both were able to batter the Huskies up front while taking advantage of a substandard passing game.”
“Aside from the lightning-induced delay during the Cal game, there was nothing particularly fluky about either of these defeats. The Huskies just got beat — in remarkably similar fashion.”
Calkins then brings up the young receivers not playing because they aren’t practicing as well as Petersen would like:
“Think of someone such as former USC quarterback Sam Darnold, who transformed the Trojans as a redshirt freshman when he got a shot in Week 4. Or Jaguars quarterback Gardner Minshew, who went from second-stringer to NFL offensive rookie of the year candidate after his predecessor went down with an injury.”
“These young receivers are practicing against a defense that knows the playbook. Is it crazy to think they might shine brighter in the play than the dress rehearsal?”
So can Pete figure it out?:
“Last year, after a stunning late-October loss to Cal, the Huskies won four in a row en route to capturing the Pac-12 title. This season, a shot at a conference title seems far more dubious.”
“What’s clear is that this year’s Huskies need to change for the better. The question is whether Petersen can make that happen.”
You play stars all the time. While I know Fuller is our best WR, he’s not a star. Baccellia is a mediocre at best WR and it’s baffling he has a stranglehold on one of the WR spots. Nobody outside of Fuller and Baccellia has even got a chance to show if they can do anything.
Get the younger guys some reps in games. We rotate a lot on defense, why not on offense? The might even become more “detailed” and practice better if they felt involved.
I don’t know, it all seems strange. At this point it feels like Pete is doubling down. You know he hates being questioned by dumbass fans and the media, but it comes with the territory.
Another part of me feels like the back up WR’s aren’t any good and that’s why they don’t play. We make fun of Pete and how much he loves practice, but they really do see these players every day. I have a hard time believing a good player would be kept off the field.
Pete deserves to be questioned. He’s talked a lot about improving the offense, but it hasn’t improved. The WR’s have not played well for the third year in a row.
This all reminds me of last year when we were clamoring for Haener all season long. Pete finally put him in when the stakes mattered. We all know what happened next.
What's worrisome is that Pete's personnel choices have rarely been wrong in the past. It might be entirely possible that everyone behind Fuller and Opera really are that bad. In which case we have a much bigger issue with the offense and WR development. With as much young talent as we have, and as relatively easy as it is for young WRs to get on the field early in their careers in the college game, there's no excuse for not a single one of these guys emerging as a play maker.
We’ll really know next year when the incoming freshman WR’s are enrolled. My guess is the guys we are clamoring to get in (Osborne and Spiker) get passed up and all of this starts to make a little more sense.
Side note, after seeing how soft our WR’s are, I’m getting more excited for Raccanelli. Underrated recruit. I doubt he will be soft and will add something we need.
@RoadDawg55 has been a voice of reason this week. Pete's probably earned a turd of a season, where things just don't gel the way you'd want. But still....fix this shit or tick, tick, tick...
If we going to piss the season away, which I am ok with. Let’s invest in the future and let the young kids play and build skill. But to roll out with Manu, beef Wellington, clutchskins, opera singer. Why invest in those scrubs, this is their last year of playing football, let’s accelerate that end
We still aren’t there. A loss to Arizona this week and I agree that it’s time to punt the season and develop the younger guys we have.
I don’t know roadie, I don’t see us beating Oregon. The DL play is good, but not at point where they can make up for deficiencies at LB. they are horrible. Honestly the drop off from beef Wellington and Manu to sirmon and tafisi is not that high, almost equally shitty
Matt Calkins continuing to bring the heat with Vorel from the Times:
“With Petersen at the helm, the Huskies have lost their past 10 games in which they were behind at the half, and 15 of their past 16. They also have blown four first-half leads in that span, and lost to Oregon last season when the game was tied at the break.”
“These numbers should not detract from Petersen’s Huskies reaching a New Year’s Six game in each of their past three seasons while winning two of the past three Pac-12 title games. And they don’t reflect UW’s ability to hold or expand leads over that stretch, which has been impressive.”
“But those post-half stats do call into question Petersen’s ability to adapt when facing adversity. And right now — the Huskies desperately need to adapt.”
“With defeats against unranked California and Stanford in 2019, though, the Huskies (4-2, 1-2 Pac-12) are wounded with the meat of their schedule still in front of them. And if ever there was a time for the Pac-12’s highest-paid coach to earn his money — it’s now.”
“In Pac-12 games not involving Washington, Cal and Stanford are a combined 1-4 this season. But both were able to batter the Huskies up front while taking advantage of a substandard passing game.”
“Aside from the lightning-induced delay during the Cal game, there was nothing particularly fluky about either of these defeats. The Huskies just got beat — in remarkably similar fashion.”
Calkins then brings up the young receivers not playing because they aren’t practicing as well as Petersen would like:
“Think of someone such as former USC quarterback Sam Darnold, who transformed the Trojans as a redshirt freshman when he got a shot in Week 4. Or Jaguars quarterback Gardner Minshew, who went from second-stringer to NFL offensive rookie of the year candidate after his predecessor went down with an injury.”
“These young receivers are practicing against a defense that knows the playbook. Is it crazy to think they might shine brighter in the play than the dress rehearsal?”
So can Pete figure it out?:
“Last year, after a stunning late-October loss to Cal, the Huskies won four in a row en route to capturing the Pac-12 title. This season, a shot at a conference title seems far more dubious.”
“What’s clear is that this year’s Huskies need to change for the better. The question is whether Petersen can make that happen.”
The point Calkins makes about our WR’s practicing against our DB’s is a good one. The defense knows what’s coming. It makes it hard.
I remember that being the case playing high school basketball. At practice, everyone had a hard time scoring because we all knew the plays being ran. We weren’t going to fool anyone. In the games, that wasn’t the case and those same plays got us open shot after open shot.
We should be able to accept that Osborne and Spiker aren’t trusted to get in the game. Liking their hudl’s does not mean they are good players. These are highlight videos with only their best plays shown.
Puka gets in. I wish he was more involved, but obviously they want to get him some playing time. I think that’s actually a goal of the coaches and I believe them. I would assume the coaches like him better than Osborne and Spiker. Ty Jones played a lot last year as a second year player.
We don’t have an aversion to playing young guys. The frustrating part is that there are no standards and the starters continue to play despite poor production and in Fuller’s case, way too many drops.
We should be able to accept that Osborne and Spiker aren’t trusted to get in the game. Liking their hudl’s does not mean they are good players. These are highlight videos with only their best plays shown.
Puka gets in. I wish he was more involved, but obviously they want to get him some playing time. I think that’s actually a goal of the coaches and I believe them. I would assume the coaches like him better than Osborne and Spiker. Ty Jones played a lot last year as a second year player.
We don’t have an aversion to playing young guys. The frustrating part is that there are no standards and the starters continue to play despite poor production and in Fuller’s case, way too many drops.
I don't mind Fuller being in because he catches more than he drops, but there is absolutely no reason Baccelia should see another snap in Pac 12 play. Seems like such an easy fix to give someone else a look.
Chico at least has been an explosive player in the past, if we’re going to have one midget on the field it should be him. Baccelia has a career tape of being ineffective in pretty much every way.
We should be able to accept that Osborne and Spiker aren’t trusted to get in the game. Liking their hudl’s does not mean they are good players. These are highlight videos with only their best plays shown.
Puka gets in. I wish he was more involved, but obviously they want to get him some playing time. I think that’s actually a goal of the coaches and I believe them. I would assume the coaches like him better than Osborne and Spiker. Ty Jones played a lot last year as a second year player.
We don’t have an aversion to playing young guys. The frustrating part is that there are no standards and the starters continue to play despite poor production and in Fuller’s case, way too many drops.
OK, story time. In 2016, I covered Notre Dame, a program with College Football Playoff aspirations (like Washington) that was led by an established, veteran head coach (like Washington). Brian Kelly announced prior to the season that two quarterbacks would play in the season-opener (like Washington).
Long season short, the Irish went 4-8. They had two quarterbacks in DeShone Kizer and Malik Zaire, but few established leaders. Their defensive coordinator, Brian VanGorder, was fired in September. The fans suffered through an unexpectedly abysmal season in South Bend — and along the way, many demanded Kelly be fired as well. They paid for full-page ads in the local newspapers, loudly lobbying for new leadership.
And guess what happened next? The Irish went 26-5 in the ensuing two-plus seasons. Kelly hired new coordinators and adjusted his own role within the program. He forced himself to adapt — to evolve, or else. Notre Dame appeared in the College Football Playoff last winter and is currently ranked as the No. 9 team in the country.
Of course, these situations are hardly identical. But if Petersen is willing to honestly evaluate the strengths and weaknesses in his program and make the necessary adjustments, there’s no reason Washington shouldn’t continue to contend for Pac-12 titles. The talent is already on the roster, and the Huskies continue to recruit at an elite national level.
Oh, and one more thing: the sky in Seattle is a long way from falling. Rest assured, these Huskies are not about to finish 4-8.
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Matt Calkins continuing to bring the heat with Vorel from the Times:
“With Petersen at the helm, the Huskies have lost their past 10 games in which they were behind at the half, and 15 of their past 16. They also have blown four first-half leads in that span, and lost to Oregon last season when the game was tied at the break.”
“These numbers should not detract from Petersen’s Huskies reaching a New Year’s Six game in each of their past three seasons while winning two of the past three Pac-12 title games. And they don’t reflect UW’s ability to hold or expand leads over that stretch, which has been impressive.”
“But those post-half stats do call into question Petersen’s ability to adapt when facing adversity. And right now — the Huskies desperately need to adapt.”
“With defeats against unranked California and Stanford in 2019, though, the Huskies (4-2, 1-2 Pac-12) are wounded with the meat of their schedule still in front of them. And if ever there was a time for the Pac-12’s highest-paid coach to earn his money — it’s now.”
“In Pac-12 games not involving Washington, Cal and Stanford are a combined 1-4 this season. But both were able to batter the Huskies up front while taking advantage of a substandard passing game.”
“Aside from the lightning-induced delay during the Cal game, there was nothing particularly fluky about either of these defeats. The Huskies just got beat — in remarkably similar fashion.”
Calkins then brings up the young receivers not playing because they aren’t practicing as well as Petersen would like:
“Think of someone such as former USC quarterback Sam Darnold, who transformed the Trojans as a redshirt freshman when he got a shot in Week 4. Or Jaguars quarterback Gardner Minshew, who went from second-stringer to NFL offensive rookie of the year candidate after his predecessor went down with an injury.”
“These young receivers are practicing against a defense that knows the playbook. Is it crazy to think they might shine brighter in the play than the dress rehearsal?”
So can Pete figure it out?:
“Last year, after a stunning late-October loss to Cal, the Huskies won four in a row en route to capturing the Pac-12 title. This season, a shot at a conference title seems far more dubious.”
“What’s clear is that this year’s Huskies need to change for the better. The question is whether Petersen can make that happen.”
I remember that being the case playing high school basketball. At practice, everyone had a hard time scoring because we all knew the plays being ran. We weren’t going to fool anyone. In the games, that wasn’t the case and those same plays got us open shot after open shot.
Puka gets in. I wish he was more involved, but obviously they want to get him some playing time. I think that’s actually a goal of the coaches and I believe them. I would assume the coaches like him better than Osborne and Spiker. Ty Jones played a lot last year as a second year player.
We don’t have an aversion to playing young guys. The frustrating part is that there are no standards and the starters continue to play despite poor production and in Fuller’s case, way too many drops.
Chico at least has been an explosive player in the past, if we’re going to have one midget on the field it should be him. Baccelia has a career tape of being ineffective in pretty much every way.
Oh, and @YellowSnow, I wish I could give you an extra chin for “ pipe hitting nega dawg”. That amused me greatly.
OK, story time. In 2016, I covered Notre Dame, a program with College Football Playoff aspirations (like Washington) that was led by an established, veteran head coach (like Washington). Brian Kelly announced prior to the season that two quarterbacks would play in the season-opener (like Washington).
Long season short, the Irish went 4-8. They had two quarterbacks in DeShone Kizer and Malik Zaire, but few established leaders. Their defensive coordinator, Brian VanGorder, was fired in September. The fans suffered through an unexpectedly abysmal season in South Bend — and along the way, many demanded Kelly be fired as well. They paid for full-page ads in the local newspapers, loudly lobbying for new leadership.
And guess what happened next? The Irish went 26-5 in the ensuing two-plus seasons. Kelly hired new coordinators and adjusted his own role within the program. He forced himself to adapt — to evolve, or else. Notre Dame appeared in the College Football Playoff last winter and is currently ranked as the No. 9 team in the country.
Of course, these situations are hardly identical. But if Petersen is willing to honestly evaluate the strengths and weaknesses in his program and make the necessary adjustments, there’s no reason Washington shouldn’t continue to contend for Pac-12 titles. The talent is already on the roster, and the Huskies continue to recruit at an elite national level.
Oh, and one more thing: the sky in Seattle is a long way from falling. Rest assured, these Huskies are not about to finish 4-8.