Backstory on the Smalls recruitment
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Well playedCanadawg said:
Rent freeGrundleStiltzkin said:Not going to find this on bd2w
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Can anyone tell me how to disable autocorrect so I can post Academis worthy material?
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I was unimpressed when he dropped UW, but the truth is I didn't know the first thing about him, his personality, who was influencing him, or anything else. I rushed to judgement a bit, but not harshly. I'm thankful for that. Seems to be a cool kid who readily learns lessons from his own actions. That's not common in this generation (see my young friend BTP's recent behavior as an example).dflea said:
He sounds like a good kid with good parents that have raised him up to be a man. The more I hear about this kid, the more I like him.Baseman said:
SAY IT. Say it often and say it proud.chuck said:
Yes, Teq, everyone notices you.Tequilla said:
Not trying to take away from my buddy Baseman who has some really good nuggets here ... but the tea leaves for Smalls were out there for a whileGrundleStiltzkin said:Not going to find this on bd2w
I had also heard from someone inside the program that the feeling was that Smalls was in the bag
I had a feeling this would go this way for the same reasons Baseman described beginning when he and Huard became public BFFs. It wasnt tea leaves or inside info. It was just optimism spurred by the changed situation.
Big fucking deal. I didn't feel it strongly enough to say so here. I didn't show up after a long absence and downplay/diminish a great, informative post. I'm not a attention whoring fuck bag though.
Yeah, a lot of what I posted if you have followed Smalls recruitment—and it’s hard not to with the great work the TBSs have done staying on top of things—aren’t earth shattering revelations.
The biggest key for Smalls signing is when he called UW and apologized for handled himself, not something you’d expect from a 5 star rated teenager every program nationally has slobbered over at one point or another.
Despite what Joey Thomas might say, he despises UW for what “happened to him” twenty years ago. he’s pissed Pete dropped T. Harrison, he advanced the narrative the OKG moniker was elitist and non-inclusive. -
Joey did meet with the staff and probably told Smalls he'd support him if he picked UW. I also know he frowned on the OKG label, described it as elitist, and encouraged Smalls to take a hard look at FSU and I didn't get it from Dawgmansonics1993 said:
Joey Thomas was supportive of Smalls if he wanted to go to UW and it some false rumor that the dawgman staff spreads. Joey was just on UW campus talking with the coaches this past spring.animate said:
oooh, interesting!sonics1993 said:Joey Thomas and UW have a good relationship. Don't understand where this narrative is coming from.
so, was Joey Thomas supportive or not?
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Smalls was at worst third in the class when he said that.RoadDawg55 said:I’m still not a fan of Joey Thomas. “The disrespect is unreal” when Smalls was ranked top 5 in his class. That’s Smalls’ head coach in high school. Smalls high school coach is the last person that should be pumping him up with that kind of bullshit.
Third.
In the whole fucking nation.
Calling that disrespectful was, well, disrespectful.
Totally out of character for the former greatest coaching mind on the west coast. -
He told him to review his options which is what he should say, he didn't tell him to go a certain school and he didn't bad mouth Washington and tell him not to go there.Baseman said:
Joey did meet with the staff and probably told Smalls he'd support him if he picked UW. I also know he frowned on the OKG label, described it as elitist, and encouraged Smalls to take a hard look at FSU and I didn't get it from Dawgmansonics1993 said:
Joey Thomas was supportive of Smalls if he wanted to go to UW and it some false rumor that the dawgman staff spreads. Joey was just on UW campus talking with the coaches this past spring.animate said:
oooh, interesting!sonics1993 said:Joey Thomas and UW have a good relationship. Don't understand where this narrative is coming from.
so, was Joey Thomas supportive or not?
Is this just an easy narrative to blame someone then? -
Clearly, you've proven you know a lot of the inner happenings of the recruiting office, I find it strange, though, that you know each side of the conversations between the coaches and Smalls, Smalls and Thomas, opposing coaches and Smalls, and opposing coaches and Thomas. Who said what, and when.sonics1993 said:
He told him to review his options which is what he should say, he didn't tell him to go a certain school and he didn't bad mouth Washington and tell him not to go there.Baseman said:
Joey did meet with the staff and probably told Smalls he'd support him if he picked UW. I also know he frowned on the OKG label, described it as elitist, and encouraged Smalls to take a hard look at FSU and I didn't get it from Dawgmansonics1993 said:
Joey Thomas was supportive of Smalls if he wanted to go to UW and it some false rumor that the dawgman staff spreads. Joey was just on UW campus talking with the coaches this past spring.animate said:
oooh, interesting!sonics1993 said:Joey Thomas and UW have a good relationship. Don't understand where this narrative is coming from.
so, was Joey Thomas supportive or not?
Is this just an easy narrative to blame someone then?
I heard different about Thomas. It may be wrong. I don't think so. I don't care. I don't get paid for this and have better things to do then debate TBS stories.
I made the mistake of dropping something earlier today followed by messages from upset TBS folks who claimed they had it first, last night, last week, two months ago. Cool. -
@Tequilla was first!!!!1!1!1!
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I know the garfield coach that was in Smalls head and it wasn't Thomas. That garfield coach along with a certain family member of Harrison were running there mouth about UW. As far as how I get this info, it's easy I have sources both within the UW program and high school ranks. That's how I knew about Smalls eliminating UW before anybody and that's how I knew Smalls apologized to UW before anybody. Ask BTP, I told him back in July that Smalls called UW after running into them, apologized and wanted back in.Baseman said:
Clearly, you've proven you know a lot of the inner happenings of the recruiting office, I find it strange, though, that you know each side of the conversations between the coaches and Smalls, Smalls and Thomas, opposing coaches and Smalls, and opposing coaches and Thomas. Who said what, and when.sonics1993 said:
He told him to review his options which is what he should say, he didn't tell him to go a certain school and he didn't bad mouth Washington and tell him not to go there.Baseman said:
Joey did meet with the staff and probably told Smalls he'd support him if he picked UW. I also know he frowned on the OKG label, described it as elitist, and encouraged Smalls to take a hard look at FSU and I didn't get it from Dawgmansonics1993 said:
Joey Thomas was supportive of Smalls if he wanted to go to UW and it some false rumor that the dawgman staff spreads. Joey was just on UW campus talking with the coaches this past spring.animate said:
oooh, interesting!sonics1993 said:Joey Thomas and UW have a good relationship. Don't understand where this narrative is coming from.
so, was Joey Thomas supportive or not?
Is this just an easy narrative to blame someone then?
I heard different about Thomas. It may be wrong. I don't think so. I don't care. I don't get paid for this and have better things to do then debate TBS stories.
I made the mistake of dropping something earlier today followed by messages from upset TBS folks who claimed they had it first, last night, last week, two months ago. Cool. -
For someone that doesn't get paid about TBS....you spend a lot of time talking about itBaseman said:
Clearly, you've proven you know a lot of the inner happenings of the recruiting office, I find it strange, though, that you know each side of the conversations between the coaches and Smalls, Smalls and Thomas, opposing coaches and Smalls, and opposing coaches and Thomas. Who said what, and when.sonics1993 said:
He told him to review his options which is what he should say, he didn't tell him to go a certain school and he didn't bad mouth Washington and tell him not to go there.Baseman said:
Joey did meet with the staff and probably told Smalls he'd support him if he picked UW. I also know he frowned on the OKG label, described it as elitist, and encouraged Smalls to take a hard look at FSU and I didn't get it from Dawgmansonics1993 said:
Joey Thomas was supportive of Smalls if he wanted to go to UW and it some false rumor that the dawgman staff spreads. Joey was just on UW campus talking with the coaches this past spring.animate said:
oooh, interesting!sonics1993 said:Joey Thomas and UW have a good relationship. Don't understand where this narrative is coming from.
so, was Joey Thomas supportive or not?
Is this just an easy narrative to blame someone then?
I heard different about Thomas. It may be wrong. I don't think so. I don't care. I don't get paid for this and have better things to do then debate TBS stories.
I made the mistake of dropping something earlier today followed by messages from upset TBS folks who claimed they had it first, last night, last week, two months ago. Cool.
Borderline jock sniffer -
The same.
My source about a month or two ago said Smalls might actually commit to Washington.
Prior to that, he was all but Florida State's to lose if not to another out of state program.
@Baseman's accurate with his posting. -
Welp I don't care who had it first, I'm just glad @Baseman and @sonics1993 post here at all. And it's my bored, so you know, that's pretty much all that matters. Because if they know it first, then ipso de facto mondo I know it first. So FIRST bitches!
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Is that the adult version of the PAC-12 network?Emoterman said: -
You were 1st, congrats. Feel free to share your information here more regularly. I thought you had left so I let these guys know what I'd heard. Sorry if you felt I stepped on your toes. Won't happen againsonics1993 said:
I know the garfield coach that was in Smalls head and it wasn't Thomas. That garfield coach along with a certain family member of Harrison were running there mouth about UW. As far as how I get this info, it's easy I have sources both within the UW program and high school ranks. That's how I knew about Smalls eliminating UW before anybody and that's how I knew Smalls apologized to UW before anybody. Ask BTP, I told him back in July that Smalls called UW after running into them, apologized and wanted back in.Baseman said:
Clearly, you've proven you know a lot of the inner happenings of the recruiting office, I find it strange, though, that you know each side of the conversations between the coaches and Smalls, Smalls and Thomas, opposing coaches and Smalls, and opposing coaches and Thomas. Who said what, and when.sonics1993 said:
He told him to review his options which is what he should say, he didn't tell him to go a certain school and he didn't bad mouth Washington and tell him not to go there.Baseman said:
Joey did meet with the staff and probably told Smalls he'd support him if he picked UW. I also know he frowned on the OKG label, described it as elitist, and encouraged Smalls to take a hard look at FSU and I didn't get it from Dawgmansonics1993 said:
Joey Thomas was supportive of Smalls if he wanted to go to UW and it some false rumor that the dawgman staff spreads. Joey was just on UW campus talking with the coaches this past spring.animate said:
oooh, interesting!sonics1993 said:Joey Thomas and UW have a good relationship. Don't understand where this narrative is coming from.
so, was Joey Thomas supportive or not?
Is this just an easy narrative to blame someone then?
I heard different about Thomas. It may be wrong. I don't think so. I don't care. I don't get paid for this and have better things to do then debate TBS stories.
I made the mistake of dropping something earlier today followed by messages from upset TBS folks who claimed they had it first, last night, last week, two months ago. Cool. -
You could have saved a lot of characters and just said Joey Thomas is a punk ass bitch.Baseman said:Props to Pete K. He started working Smalls 3+ years ago then pulled back when Smalls went big shot punk under the spell of was Joey Thomas who initially soured Smalls on UW.
PK and Pete at that point walked away. Internally, they decided if Smalls became a Husky he would have to initiate the contact. They were done.
One time this summer, PK and Smalls ended up at the same event. PK passed right by Smalls and said hello. It was cordial, professional. PK kept walking
A few weeks later a contrite Smalls called PK and Pete and apologized for publicly dropping UW. He expressed he still had serious interest in Washington if they still had interest in him. PK and Pete re-engaged Smalls and teamed up with Huard for a full court press on Savell.
It helped by this time that Joey Thomas had packed up his shit and moved away. Savell's one time mentor, it was Thomas who had perpetuated the OKG anti-African American schtick.
Away from Thomas now, Smalls started listening to his parents. They wanted him to stay home; they believed in Pete's Built for Life spiel. Smalls FSU visit turned him solidly back towards home when he got an inside look at the Taggart shit show that his one time "mentor" Joey,T. tried pushing him to. Clemson by this time had filled up, Bama had 4 elite OLB commitments. The stars began aligning in UWs favor.
Sam and Savell became close. About six weeks ago, the winds began blowing heavily in UW's favor. I began hearing UW believed they'd probably get Smalls but that it would go all the way to signing day. In my gut, I thought if Smalls was going to UW, he'd follow Sam's lead, announce early and help recruit the final spots in the class...
So there you are.
But it all ends cool.
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I believe sonics the rest is just hyperbole!
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Thanks Baseman. Love hearing the behind the story story. You too Sonics.
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I'm glad Huard's check cleared.
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From @Baseman’s account, how is no one giving props to Kwat?
He did it, he actually did it: He recruited an elite dude, peas and carrots and all! -
I don’t know why you guys give so much credit/blame on assistants. Smalls isn’t coming to UW because of Kwat.Beno4Life said:From @Baseman’s account, how is no one giving props to Kwat?
He did it, he actually did it: He recruited an elite dude, peas and carrots and all! -
If we're going based on assisstants/position coaches, he also beat out ND and Oregon for Trice and Bama/everybody for Latu last yearBeno4Life said:From @Baseman’s account, how is no one giving props to Kwat?
He did it, he actually did it: He recruited an elite dude, peas and carrots and all! -
I wasn’t talking about a “who had it first”, sorry if it came off that way. Your info was correct and you nailed the summary, I just wanted to insert the Joey Thomas info because I think he gets a bad wrap thanks to dawgman. Sorry if it came off aggressive, that wasn’t my intention at all.Baseman said:
You were 1st, congrats. Feel free to share your information here more regularly. I thought you had left so I let these guys know what I'd heard. Sorry if you felt I stepped on your toes. Won't happen againsonics1993 said:
I know the garfield coach that was in Smalls head and it wasn't Thomas. That garfield coach along with a certain family member of Harrison were running there mouth about UW. As far as how I get this info, it's easy I have sources both within the UW program and high school ranks. That's how I knew about Smalls eliminating UW before anybody and that's how I knew Smalls apologized to UW before anybody. Ask BTP, I told him back in July that Smalls called UW after running into them, apologized and wanted back in.Baseman said:
Clearly, you've proven you know a lot of the inner happenings of the recruiting office, I find it strange, though, that you know each side of the conversations between the coaches and Smalls, Smalls and Thomas, opposing coaches and Smalls, and opposing coaches and Thomas. Who said what, and when.sonics1993 said:
He told him to review his options which is what he should say, he didn't tell him to go a certain school and he didn't bad mouth Washington and tell him not to go there.Baseman said:
Joey did meet with the staff and probably told Smalls he'd support him if he picked UW. I also know he frowned on the OKG label, described it as elitist, and encouraged Smalls to take a hard look at FSU and I didn't get it from Dawgmansonics1993 said:
Joey Thomas was supportive of Smalls if he wanted to go to UW and it some false rumor that the dawgman staff spreads. Joey was just on UW campus talking with the coaches this past spring.animate said:
oooh, interesting!sonics1993 said:Joey Thomas and UW have a good relationship. Don't understand where this narrative is coming from.
so, was Joey Thomas supportive or not?
Is this just an easy narrative to blame someone then?
I heard different about Thomas. It may be wrong. I don't think so. I don't care. I don't get paid for this and have better things to do then debate TBS stories.
I made the mistake of dropping something earlier today followed by messages from upset TBS folks who claimed they had it first, last night, last week, two months ago. Cool. -
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Buffy too lowRaceBannon said:I'm thinking of Buffy as my third wife
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I logged in just to reply to the original "look-at-me I play zone at the IMA" blowhard.Tequilla said:Some of you get butthurt for very small reasons
My point was simply that the Smalls news today has been trending this way for a while ... this shouldn’t be a surprise.
As for the comment of “wanting to be noticed” that’s funny ... I don’t claim to be a recruiting expert in any way, shape, or form ... I have far bigger things going on in life right now to even consider thinking in those terms
The idea of Smalls waiting until closer to the first Signing Day always seemed like the most logical ... happy it’s done with early
JFC @Tequilla. Have you no self-awareness? Nothing worse than a know it all narcissicist blowhard.
You ruin the TSIO pod. Dennis, Coker and Wilbur should be the lineup. They are worth a listen.
You contribute nothing here or on the Pod but more autism awareness donations. Killer strength coach imitation tho 👍🏽👍🏽
Make like @HeretoBeatmyChest and beat it already. At least he can contribute (or carry?) his pod.
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HA! Such fagTequilla said:
Not trying to take away from my buddy Baseman who has some really good nuggets here ... but the tea leaves for Smalls were out there for a whileGrundleStiltzkin said:Not going to find this on bd2w
I had also heard from someone inside the program that the feeling was that Smalls was in the bag -
Now, now. Teq contributes, differently then Dennis and Coker, sure. I'd miss him if he left.MisterEm said:
I logged in just to reply to the original "look-at-me I play zone at the IMA" blowhard.Tequilla said:Some of you get butthurt for very small reasons
My point was simply that the Smalls news today has been trending this way for a while ... this shouldn’t be a surprise.
As for the comment of “wanting to be noticed” that’s funny ... I don’t claim to be a recruiting expert in any way, shape, or form ... I have far bigger things going on in life right now to even consider thinking in those terms
The idea of Smalls waiting until closer to the first Signing Day always seemed like the most logical ... happy it’s done with early
JFC @Tequilla. Have you no self-awareness? Nothing worse than a know it all narcissicist blowhard.
You ruin the TSIO pod. Dennis, Coker and Wilbur should be the lineup. They are worth a listen.
You contribute nothing here or on the Pod but more autism awareness donations. Killer strength coach imitation tho 👍🏽👍🏽
Make like @HeretoBeatmyChest and beat it already. At least he can contribute (or carry?) his pod.
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Practice, and aim more carefully. Perhaps you're leading him too much? He's not in his 20's anymore.Baseman said:
Now, now. Teq contributes, differently then Dennis and Coker, sure. I'd miss him if he left.MisterEm said:
I logged in just to reply to the original "look-at-me I play zone at the IMA" blowhard.Tequilla said:Some of you get butthurt for very small reasons
My point was simply that the Smalls news today has been trending this way for a while ... this shouldn’t be a surprise.
As for the comment of “wanting to be noticed” that’s funny ... I don’t claim to be a recruiting expert in any way, shape, or form ... I have far bigger things going on in life right now to even consider thinking in those terms
The idea of Smalls waiting until closer to the first Signing Day always seemed like the most logical ... happy it’s done with early
JFC @Tequilla. Have you no self-awareness? Nothing worse than a know it all narcissicist blowhard.
You ruin the TSIO pod. Dennis, Coker and Wilbur should be the lineup. They are worth a listen.
You contribute nothing here or on the Pod but more autism awareness donations. Killer strength coach imitation tho 👍🏽👍🏽
Make like @HeretoBeatmyChest and beat it already. At least he can contribute (or carry?) his pod.
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