Chicom Coolie Ding Dong Yang wants to Ban Air Travel

SFGbob said:

Gwad said:

SFGbob said:

We aren't getting rid of fossil fuel power generation anytime soon and it's definitely not happening in any of our lifetimes.

https://www.manhattan-institute.org/green-energy-revolution-near-impossible.

LOL SFGbob's source is the Manhattan Institute JFC

And MIT but Kunt's got to Kunt. You really believe I can't find that exact same information from other sources? The numbers are what they are, they didn't make them up.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611683/the-25-trillion-reason-we-cant-rely-on-batteries-to-clean-up-the-grid/

Gwad said:

SFGbob said:

Gwad said:

SFGbob said:

We aren't getting rid of fossil fuel power generation anytime soon and it's definitely not happening in any of our lifetimes.

https://www.manhattan-institute.org/green-energy-revolution-near-impossible.

LOL SFGbob's source is the Manhattan Institute JFC

And MIT but Kunt's got to Kunt. You really believe I can't find that exact same information from other sources? The numbers are what they are, they didn't make them up.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611683/the-25-trillion-reason-we-cant-rely-on-batteries-to-clean-up-the-grid/

You seem mad you should dial it down.

HustlinOwl said:

SFGbob said:

Sledog said:

2001400ex said:

Sledog said:

ThomasFremont said:

Sledog said:

ThomasFremont said:

SFGbob said:

ThomasFremont said:

SFGbob said:

ThomasFremont said:

RaceBannon said:

Scale is the issue

When alternative energy scales for mass consumption someone will be there to cash in. It's not like nobody is working on it just because we dont have massive government intervention

Carbon purveyors have been cleaning some things up since the 60s

They’ve dragged their feet for decades. But you’re right. Traditional utilities have diversified into wind and solar at an increasing rate. The government could incentivize then to escalate that progress and we’d probably be better off. Better for the environment. Better for National security.

Even if you increase solar and wind, you still have to build the infrastructure for fossil fuel electrical generation. There's no way to store energy generated by wind and solar for the periods when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining.

I am aware that things are not currently set up for this. I’m saying we should set things up like this.

The technology for electrical storage on a massive scale doesn't exist.

Decentralized models are already effective at curbing waste and costs.

Where are all those decentralized electrical generation plants?

On the roof of a house. With a battery to store the excess and run at night.

Combine that with a transition away from coal towards nuclear power and you’d be making some serious gains.

So what's the charge time for your Tesla? 14 years?

Have you heard of a high speed charger? I know a few people that have driven thru Montana and such.

It's ignorant people like you that are afraid of change that stifle advancement and technology.

Really a house solar system high sorry charged at night? You are special!

Driving up the 5 in Kali I see a while bunch of Tesla's. Parked at Harris ranch trying to charge because they're stranded.

What if you live in Wyoming, and it's the middle of winter and the temperature doesn't get above 15 degrees for a week. Is solar power going to generate enough energy to keep that house warm? Same question applies to living on the coast in the NW. There were times during the winter growing up on the Oregon coast were you didn't see the sun for weeks and it rained every day. What do those people do?

Step 1: Sleep at night.

UW_Doog_Bot said:

ThomasFremont said:

Sledog said:

ThomasFremont said:

SFGbob said:

ThomasFremont said:

SFGbob said:

ThomasFremont said:

RaceBannon said:

Scale is the issue

When alternative energy scales for mass consumption someone will be there to cash in. It's not like nobody is working on it just because we dont have massive government intervention

Carbon purveyors have been cleaning some things up since the 60s

They’ve dragged their feet for decades. But you’re right. Traditional utilities have diversified into wind and solar at an increasing rate. The government could incentivize then to escalate that progress and we’d probably be better off. Better for the environment. Better for National security.

Even if you increase solar and wind, you still have to build the infrastructure for fossil fuel electrical generation. There's no way to store energy generated by wind and solar for the periods when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining.

I am aware that things are not currently set up for this. I’m saying we should set things up like this.

The technology for electrical storage on a massive scale doesn't exist.

Decentralized models are already effective at curbing waste and costs.

Where are all those decentralized electrical generation plants?

On the roof of a house. With a battery to store the excess and run at night.

Combine that with a transition away from coal towards nuclear power and you’d be making some serious gains.

This doesn't work at scale for business or industry. It barely works for residential. Full stop.

Nuclear baseload, solar for daytime usage, and natural gas for ramp up or ramp down. Offset by reforestation and curbing desertification. These are the droids you are looking for.

There's no other possible engineering solution with available technology unless you want forced rationing.