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The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change

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    BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 5,454
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    Gwad said:

    Friends of Science (FoS) is a non-profit advocacy organization based in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. The organization rejects the established scientific conclusion that humans are largely responsible for the currently observed global warming. Rather, they propose that "the Sun is the main direct and indirect driver of climate change," not human activity. They argued against the Kyoto Protocol.[1] The society was founded in 2002 and launched its website in October of that year.[2][3] They are largely funded by the fossil fuel industry.[4][5]

    You have got to be kidding me. No one, and I mean no one with any ounce of sense or decency that has read the Kyoto agreement from cover to cover can tell anyone it was only about MMGW. It was a power grab and everyone knows it. BO didn't even have the balls to sign his name to that garbage. When Bush failed to ratify the agreement it was because he knew we didn't want to be run by a bunch of failed socialist leaders. Hell, even Canada withdrew. Paris accord was even worse. Brilliant move by Trump to steer clear of that globalization garbage.
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    HustlinOwlHustlinOwl Member Posts: 953
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    Best plan is to find anything and everything on the planet that will burn and burn it as fast as possible. That is the best plan.
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    BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 5,454
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    Best plan is to find anything and everything on the planet that will burn and burn it as fast as possible. That is the best plan.

    Brilliant comeback owl, just brilliant. Everyone was clearly talking about burning things.

    To the rest of the board: WTF did he mean? Anyone know?
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 42,076
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    Best plan is to find anything and everything on the planet that will burn and burn it as fast as possible. That is the best plan.

    Brilliant comeback owl, just brilliant. Everyone was clearly talking about burning things.

    To the rest of the board: WTF did he mean? Anyone know?
    It's like when Otter asked Boone during Bluto's Pearl Harbor rant: "Germans?"

    "Forget it, he's rolling."

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    dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
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    Ax yourself:

    Your very existence is dependent on grant-funding and corporate or gubmint support to put food on the table. You have no appreciable job skills or other means of making money than 'research'. Take any topic - climate, agriculture, drug research....who cares? Same concept.

    It is not logical to assume benevolence and truthiness uber alles. You gots to eat. Are you going to bite the hand that feeds you? Or your family? Remember - you can't do shit other than sit in a lab or interpret data. You can't swing a hammer, you can't close a deal, you can't produce a product.....

    That 3% that aren't in your 97% consensus....maybe THAT'S the group that says "Fuck all" and isn't beholden to the Money Grab and are pure scientists for the science of it.

    But that's not in the interest of the Money Grabbers....so you're considered a heretic.

    And the crazy part is - the Money Grabbers sit on both the left and the right. They just have a comfort in either direction on who they want to whore out their 'science'.

    It gets really hot. It gets really cold. Same as it ever was.



    Exactly

    These scientist not only rely on funding for research, but also for wages as well. The climate change hysteria has to continue or a lot of these scientist are out of a job.

    Scientists can make an absolute boatload shilling for oil companies if they want.
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    Gwad said:

    Friends of Science (FoS) is a non-profit advocacy organization based in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. The organization rejects the established scientific conclusion that humans are largely responsible for the currently observed global warming. Rather, they propose that "the Sun is the main direct and indirect driver of climate change," not human activity. They argued against the Kyoto Protocol.[1] The society was founded in 2002 and launched its website in October of that year.[2][3] They are largely funded by the fossil fuel industry.[4][5]

    Largely? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....effing moron. What's their annual revenue? $50K? $100K? They have very little funding...they are a bunch of scientists (mostly retired) that do it because they see the nonsense for what it is. One thing they aren't doing is getting rich off of the GW scam.

    Nice Wiki lookup...

    Baaaaaa..... Sheep. Baaaaaa.....
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    dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
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    Gwad said:

    Friends of Science (FoS) is a non-profit advocacy organization based in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. The organization rejects the established scientific conclusion that humans are largely responsible for the currently observed global warming. Rather, they propose that "the Sun is the main direct and indirect driver of climate change," not human activity. They argued against the Kyoto Protocol.[1] The society was founded in 2002 and launched its website in October of that year.[2][3] They are largely funded by the fossil fuel industry.[4][5]

    You have got to be kidding me. No one, and I mean no one with any ounce of sense or decency that has read the Kyoto agreement from cover to cover can tell anyone it was only about MMGW. It was a power grab and everyone knows it. BO didn't even have the balls to sign his name to that garbage. When Bush failed to ratify the agreement it was because he knew we didn't want to be run by a bunch of failed socialist leaders. Hell, even Canada withdrew. Paris accord was even worse. Brilliant move by Trump to steer clear of that globalization garbage.
    great argument. Claim to be more informed about about an agreement than proceed to make absolutely no argument other than "socialism" and "globalization"

    Good job hitting all the buzzwords.
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,285
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    dhdawg said:

    Ax yourself:

    Your very existence is dependent on grant-funding and corporate or gubmint support to put food on the table. You have no appreciable job skills or other means of making money than 'research'. Take any topic - climate, agriculture, drug research....who cares? Same concept.

    It is not logical to assume benevolence and truthiness uber alles. You gots to eat. Are you going to bite the hand that feeds you? Or your family? Remember - you can't do shit other than sit in a lab or interpret data. You can't swing a hammer, you can't close a deal, you can't produce a product.....

    That 3% that aren't in your 97% consensus....maybe THAT'S the group that says "Fuck all" and isn't beholden to the Money Grab and are pure scientists for the science of it.

    But that's not in the interest of the Money Grabbers....so you're considered a heretic.

    And the crazy part is - the Money Grabbers sit on both the left and the right. They just have a comfort in either direction on who they want to whore out their 'science'.

    It gets really hot. It gets really cold. Same as it ever was.



    Exactly

    These scientist not only rely on funding for research, but also for wages as well. The climate change hysteria has to continue or a lot of these scientist are out of a job.

    Scientists can make an absolute boatload shilling for oil companies if they want.
    Not really. The academia community is a lot like Hollywood, if you go against the liberal agenda you get blackballed.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    dhdawg said:

    Ax yourself:

    Your very existence is dependent on grant-funding and corporate or gubmint support to put food on the table. You have no appreciable job skills or other means of making money than 'research'. Take any topic - climate, agriculture, drug research....who cares? Same concept.

    It is not logical to assume benevolence and truthiness uber alles. You gots to eat. Are you going to bite the hand that feeds you? Or your family? Remember - you can't do shit other than sit in a lab or interpret data. You can't swing a hammer, you can't close a deal, you can't produce a product.....

    That 3% that aren't in your 97% consensus....maybe THAT'S the group that says "Fuck all" and isn't beholden to the Money Grab and are pure scientists for the science of it.

    But that's not in the interest of the Money Grabbers....so you're considered a heretic.

    And the crazy part is - the Money Grabbers sit on both the left and the right. They just have a comfort in either direction on who they want to whore out their 'science'.

    It gets really hot. It gets really cold. Same as it ever was.



    Exactly

    These scientist not only rely on funding for research, but also for wages as well. The climate change hysteria has to continue or a lot of these scientist are out of a job.

    Scientists can make an absolute boatload shilling for oil companies if they want.
    Not really. The academia community is a lot like Hollywood, if you go against the liberal agenda you get blackballed.
    Yes it has nothing to do with science. It's all a conspiracy. Brilliant analysis.
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    dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
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    dhdawg said:

    Ax yourself:

    Your very existence is dependent on grant-funding and corporate or gubmint support to put food on the table. You have no appreciable job skills or other means of making money than 'research'. Take any topic - climate, agriculture, drug research....who cares? Same concept.

    It is not logical to assume benevolence and truthiness uber alles. You gots to eat. Are you going to bite the hand that feeds you? Or your family? Remember - you can't do shit other than sit in a lab or interpret data. You can't swing a hammer, you can't close a deal, you can't produce a product.....

    That 3% that aren't in your 97% consensus....maybe THAT'S the group that says "Fuck all" and isn't beholden to the Money Grab and are pure scientists for the science of it.

    But that's not in the interest of the Money Grabbers....so you're considered a heretic.

    And the crazy part is - the Money Grabbers sit on both the left and the right. They just have a comfort in either direction on who they want to whore out their 'science'.

    It gets really hot. It gets really cold. Same as it ever was.



    Exactly

    These scientist not only rely on funding for research, but also for wages as well. The climate change hysteria has to continue or a lot of these scientist are out of a job.

    Scientists can make an absolute boatload shilling for oil companies if they want.
    Not really. The academia community is a lot like Hollywood, if you go against the liberal agenda you get blackballed.
    There's no money in academia. Industry will gladly hire or fund their "research"
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    Ax yourself:

    Your very existence is dependent on grant-funding and corporate or gubmint support to put food on the table. You have no appreciable job skills or other means of making money than 'research'. Take any topic - climate, agriculture, drug research....who cares? Same concept.

    It is not logical to assume benevolence and truthiness uber alles. You gots to eat. Are you going to bite the hand that feeds you? Or your family? Remember - you can't do shit other than sit in a lab or interpret data. You can't swing a hammer, you can't close a deal, you can't produce a product.....

    That 3% that aren't in your 97% consensus....maybe THAT'S the group that says "Fuck all" and isn't beholden to the Money Grab and are pure scientists for the science of it.

    But that's not in the interest of the Money Grabbers....so you're considered a heretic.

    And the crazy part is - the Money Grabbers sit on both the left and the right. They just have a comfort in either direction on who they want to whore out their 'science'.

    It gets really hot. It gets really cold. Same as it ever was.



    Exactly

    These scientist not only rely on funding for research, but also for wages as well. The climate change hysteria has to continue or a lot of these scientist are out of a job.

    Scientists can make an absolute boatload shilling for oil companies if they want.
    Not really. The academia community is a lot like Hollywood, if you go against the liberal agenda you get blackballed.
    There's no money in academia. Industry will gladly hire or fund their "research"
    HAHAHAHAHAHA...fucking oblivious.

    Michael Mann, the author of the fraudulent hockey stick temperature reconstruction, brags on his resume in getting something like $5MM in govt grants...for something that literally is a fraud (his hockey stick in various forms). F*ck...he even got something like $2.4MM in "stimulus funds" from Obama for his fraudulent shite. Gives a new meaning to "shovel ready jobs"...

    Add to that $10k/speech, 2 published books, and a bunch of other stuff. All for something even legit GW scientists admit is fraudulent.

    Yeah...no money.


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    LebamDawgLebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,559
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    Damn I am totally confused again - I thought it was a consensus back 100 years or so (and a couple of times since then) that we would run out of fossil fuels and this entire argument about causes of global warming, or gorebal warming for some, does not exist.

    either way, I have run out of gas reading about it
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,269
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    The author of that drivel and you can't even read. Its claim is "97% of published papers agree". Which means literally nothing, especially since they are published in journals focusing on that. Add to that most of the papers aren't even related to global warming but because they somehow have a identifying term and don't explicitly say they think there is a bunch of bad science in it then they are grouped into the 97%.

    https://friendsofscience.org/assets/documents/97_Consensus_Myth.pdf

    Keep lying...

    Figures never lie. But liars figure.

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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Ok dude that is why you're looking to a lawyer that claims himself a scientists to support your position.

    I'm not

    I'm a logician and I believe in real science

    Not half truths and phony stats

    The climate changes. We all know that. Its your religion that we dont agree with and that has no consensus
    Ya humans are just exempt from having their activities add any weight to the outcome of your logical progressions. Seems like you forget about the principles of causality in your logical facade.
    They aren't exempt but they are irrelevant to the billions of years that the earth has existed with the climate changing every step of the way. Hot cold or in between all with out humans even here

    Your science should be able to point out how the humans are changing the climate and what can be done to stop it if we want to. It can't because its a faith based religion

    Instead you just mock the unbelievers and gather the congregation to await the end times to come
    A volcano can change the climate temperature. But humans can't. Ok!
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,068
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    Yep there is no money to be made from scaring the public with global warming or climate change


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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Yep there is no money to be made from scaring the public with global warming or climate change


    You really think that's how Al Gore made his money?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,068
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    2001400ex said:

    Yep there is no money to be made from scaring the public with global warming or climate change


    You really think that's how Al Gore made his money?
    Yes
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    Yep there is no money to be made from scaring the public with global warming or climate change


    You really think that's how Al Gore made his money?
    Yes
    Doubling down. I'll wait for @SFGbob to swoop in and start blasting you as a liar.

    https://business.financialpost.com/news/how-al-gore-amassed-a-200-million-fortune-after-presidential-defeat

    If you don't want to read that, his fortune was made selling a TV station and being on the Apple board. HTH
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,068
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Yep there is no money to be made from scaring the public with global warming or climate change


    You really think that's how Al Gore made his money?
    Yes
    Doubling down. I'll wait for @SFGbob to swoop in and start blasting you as a liar.

    https://business.financialpost.com/news/how-al-gore-amassed-a-200-million-fortune-after-presidential-defeat

    If you don't want to read that, his fortune was made selling a TV station and being on the Apple board. HTH
    And for the book and the two movies and the speaking fees

    Why so defensive? Lots of people get rich with religious scams. Quite common really

    The article you linked was speculation on the graft he collected from Al Jazeera for a worthless TC network and Apple stock given to him.

    He also lost tens of millions of dollars on green tech Nice to have a scam to fall back on
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