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Bernie Sanders Tells Union Worker: “I’d ‘Absolutely’ Take Away Your Health Care Plan”

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Democrats, the party of the working man😂


https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/19/bernie-sanders-union-worker-absolutely-take-away-health-care-plan/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,043 Standard Supporter
    That idiot is toast. We can only hope that Warren takes his place as the front runner.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,117 Standard Supporter
    34-17
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,845 Standard Supporter
    And your guns so you can't do anything about what I take away!


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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    Appears many of the people pushing it aren't sure what it means:

    The Democratic senator from California is hardly alone. The idea of Medicare-for-all — a unified government health program that would take over the basic function of private insurance — became a liberal litmus test at the outset of the presidential campaign, distinguishing Democratic contenders who cast themselves as bold visionaries from more moderate pragmatists.

    But in recent months, amid polling that shows concern among voters about ending private insurance, several of the Democratic hopefuls have shifted their positions or their tone, moderating full-throated endorsement of Medicare-for-all and adopting ideas for allowing private insurance in some form. …

    This unmistakable, if sometimes subtle, shift in tone stems in part from Democrats’ fear of giving away a newfound advantage over Republicans on health care.

    After the Affordable Care Act passed in 2010, Republicans scored major political victories by vowing to repeal the initially unpopular law. But when the GOP seized control of Washington under President Trump and tried to follow through on those promises, they faced a powerful backlash from voters who’d come to rely on the ACA.

    Now some Democrats warn of the perils for their party in taking a position that, to important groups of voters, could seem just as disruptive as the GOP’s push to kill the ACA.


    They were BIG supporters of it until the found it that it polled for shit once people found out what it actually entailed.


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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,845 Standard Supporter
    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    I enjoy how people that are against it think the only way they can get sort of adequate health care for some is to continue to run their health care decisions and pay huge sums of money to huge corporations earning more then 30 billion a year in profit.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    I enjoy how people that are against it think the only way they can get sort of adequate health care for some is to continue to run their health care decisions and pay huge sums of money to huge corporations earning more then 30 billion a year in profit.
    I enjoy watching dipshits fuck strawman ass as they torture beyond all recognition the analogy they were trying make.
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  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,043 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    The democrat voter just knows that someone else is going to be paying for their free healthcare.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Bendintheriver said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    The democrat voter just knows that someone else is going to be paying for their free healthcare.
    Of the people that support Medicare for all that's their biggest motivation. "Free" shit. And as you saw with the poll numbers even the parasites who what more "free" shit from the government once they found out it wasn't going to be "free" their support disappeared and that's why Harris is no longer talking about Medicare for All
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    I had great health insurance until Obama fixed it

    Why do you keep trying to tell people water isn't wet? We lived through the lying fuck's administration
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Bendintheriver said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    The democrat voter just knows that someone else is going to be paying for their free healthcare.
    Of the people that support Medicare for all that's their biggest motivation. "Free" shit. And as you saw with the poll numbers even the parasites who what more "free" shit from the government once they found out it wasn't going to be "free" their support disappeared and that's why Harris is no longer talking about Medicare for All
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Bendintheriver said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    The democrat voter just knows that someone else is going to be paying for their free healthcare.
    Of the people that support Medicare for all that's their biggest motivation. "Free" shit. And as you saw with the poll numbers even the parasites who what more "free" shit from the government once they found out it wasn't going to be "free" their support disappeared and that's why Harris is no longer talking about Medicare for All
    Gosh Hondo, why are you showing me a poll from last year? As soon as people found out that the "costs" were going to include an increase in taxes and the loss of their private insurance support for it fucking cratered.


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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Bendintheriver said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    The democrat voter just knows that someone else is going to be paying for their free healthcare.
    Of the people that support Medicare for all that's their biggest motivation. "Free" shit. And as you saw with the poll numbers even the parasites who what more "free" shit from the government once they found out it wasn't going to be "free" their support disappeared and that's why Harris is no longer talking about Medicare for All
    Gosh Hondo, why are you showing me a poll from last year? As soon as people found out that the "costs" were going to include an increase in taxes and the loss of their private insurance support for it fucking cratered.


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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    In 2017 Americans spent 3.5 trillion on healthcare. If M4A comes in at 3 trill a year over the next 10 years that's some nice savings then over what we currently have.
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  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Sledog said:

    And your guns so you can't do anything about what I take away!


    I probably hate this fake tough guy 'working man' schmoe more than any other dim candidate. He's about as fake and pathetic as Beta, Krapala and Pocahontas.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Bendintheriver said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    The democrat voter just knows that someone else is going to be paying for their free healthcare.
    Of the people that support Medicare for all that's their biggest motivation. "Free" shit. And as you saw with the poll numbers even the parasites who what more "free" shit from the government once they found out it wasn't going to be "free" their support disappeared and that's why Harris is no longer talking about Medicare for All
    Gosh Hondo, why are you showing me a poll from last year? As soon as people found out that the "costs" were going to include an increase in taxes and the loss of their private insurance support for it fucking cratered.


    Link?
    Gofuckyourself.com
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  • Blu82
    Blu82 Member Posts: 1,673
    GDS said:

    In 2017 Americans spent 3.5 trillion on healthcare. If M4A comes in at 3 trill a year over the next 10 years that's some nice savings then over what we currently have.

    Do you seriously think that the government taking over anything is going to lower the cost?

    Please site one example where this has happened.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,845 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2019
    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    I enjoy how people that are against it think the only way they can get sort of adequate health care for some is to continue to run their health care decisions and pay huge sums of money to huge corporations earning more then 30 billion a year in profit.
    I also really enjoy lazy fucks who just want someone else to pay for them.
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    edited August 2019
    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    I enjoy how people that are against it think the only way they can get sort of adequate health care for some is to continue to run their health care decisions and pay huge sums of money to huge corporations earning more then 30 billion a year in profit.
    I also really enjoy lazy fucks who just want someone else to pay fit them.
    Are you referring to people receiving a public employee pension?
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,845 Standard Supporter
    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    I enjoy how people that are against it think the only way they can get sort of adequate health care for some is to continue to run their health care decisions and pay huge sums of money to huge corporations earning more then 30 billion a year in profit.
    I also really enjoy lazy fucks who just want someone else to pay fit them.
    Are you referring to people receiving a public employee pension?
    No in referring to lazy ass dems/socialist/commies (now all under one roof in the dem party) who won't work but are somehow owed everything. HTH

    Barista is not a profession.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,117 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2019
    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    I enjoy how people that are against it think the only way they can get sort of adequate health care for some is to continue to run their health care decisions and pay huge sums of money to huge corporations earning more then 30 billion a year in profit.
    I also really enjoy lazy fucks who just want someone else to pay fit them.
    Are you referring to people receiving a public employee pension?
    No in referring to lazy ass dems/socialist/commies (now all under one roof in the dem party) who won't work but are somehow owed everything. HTH

    Barista is not a profession.





    The fuck it's not.

    It's the next gen of the oldest profession.


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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Bendintheriver said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    The democrat voter just knows that someone else is going to be paying for their free healthcare.
    Of the people that support Medicare for all that's their biggest motivation. "Free" shit. And as you saw with the poll numbers even the parasites who what more "free" shit from the government once they found out it wasn't going to be "free" their support disappeared and that's why Harris is no longer talking about Medicare for All
    Gosh Hondo, why are you showing me a poll from last year? As soon as people found out that the "costs" were going to include an increase in taxes and the loss of their private insurance support for it fucking cratered.


    Link?
    Gofuckyourself.com
    Lil lyin Bob can't back up his mouth again. Pussy.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Bendintheriver said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    The democrat voter just knows that someone else is going to be paying for their free healthcare.
    Of the people that support Medicare for all that's their biggest motivation. "Free" shit. And as you saw with the poll numbers even the parasites who what more "free" shit from the government once they found out it wasn't going to be "free" their support disappeared and that's why Harris is no longer talking about Medicare for All
    Gosh Hondo, why are you showing me a poll from last year? As soon as people found out that the "costs" were going to include an increase in taxes and the loss of their private insurance support for it fucking cratered.


    Link?
    Gofuckyourself.com
    Lil lyin Bob can't back up his mouth again. Pussy.
    There's no point in trying to educate your ignorant ass Hondo. If you're so fucking uninformed that you're not aware that support for "Medicare for All" drops like a stone when you tell people that it will cause them to lose their private insurance and pay higher taxes, something that has been discussed here a number a times, then there's no point in discussing the issue with such an ignorant dumbfuck. I will administer a swift steel toed boot to your snatch if you like because I believe that may be the one thing that might help you.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Bendintheriver said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    The democrat voter just knows that someone else is going to be paying for their free healthcare.
    Of the people that support Medicare for all that's their biggest motivation. "Free" shit. And as you saw with the poll numbers even the parasites who what more "free" shit from the government once they found out it wasn't going to be "free" their support disappeared and that's why Harris is no longer talking about Medicare for All
    Gosh Hondo, why are you showing me a poll from last year? As soon as people found out that the "costs" were going to include an increase in taxes and the loss of their private insurance support for it fucking cratered.


    Link?
    Gofuckyourself.com
    Lil lyin Bob can't back up his mouth again. Pussy.
    There's no point in trying to educate your ignorant ass Hondo. If you're so fucking uninformed that you're not aware that support for "Medicare for All" drops like a stone when you tell people that it will cause them to lose their private insurance and pay higher taxes, something that has been discussed here a number a times, then there's no point in discussing the issue with such an ignorant dumbfuck. I will administer a swift steel toed boot to your snatch if you like because I believe that may be the one thing that might help you.
    Lol lyin Bob again. You just can't help yourself.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,845 Standard Supporter
    PurpleThrobber said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    I enjoy how people that are against it think the only way they can get sort of adequate health care for some is to continue to run their health care decisions and pay huge sums of money to huge corporations earning more then 30 billion a year in profit.
    I also really enjoy lazy fucks who just want someone else to pay fit them.
    Are you referring to people receiving a public employee pension?
    No in referring to lazy ass dems/socialist/commies (now all under one roof in the dem party) who won't work but are somehow owed everything. HTH

    Barista is not a profession.





    The fuck it's not.

    It's the next gen of the oldest profession.


    That's not some smelly sandal wearing bearded hipster puke. Or some dike meaner than Mean Joe Green

    Those girls have skills!
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Bendintheriver said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    The democrat voter just knows that someone else is going to be paying for their free healthcare.
    Of the people that support Medicare for all that's their biggest motivation. "Free" shit. And as you saw with the poll numbers even the parasites who what more "free" shit from the government once they found out it wasn't going to be "free" their support disappeared and that's why Harris is no longer talking about Medicare for All
    Gosh Hondo, why are you showing me a poll from last year? As soon as people found out that the "costs" were going to include an increase in taxes and the loss of their private insurance support for it fucking cratered.


    Link?
    Gofuckyourself.com
    Lil lyin Bob can't back up his mouth again. Pussy.
    There's no point in trying to educate your ignorant ass Hondo. If you're so fucking uninformed that you're not aware that support for "Medicare for All" drops like a stone when you tell people that it will cause them to lose their private insurance and pay higher taxes, something that has been discussed here a number a times, then there's no point in discussing the issue with such an ignorant dumbfuck. I will administer a swift steel toed boot to your snatch if you like because I believe that may be the one thing that might help you.
    Lol lyin Bob again. You just can't help yourself.
    Hell Hondo, you even previously posted that exact same fucking stupid Fox Online poll. Like I said, there's no point trying to educate your ignorant ass. This is just one of the many times this information has been posted here.



    The poll found that Americans initially support “Medicare-for-all,” 56 percent to 42 percent.

    However, those numbers shifted dramatically when people were asked about the potential impact, pro and con.

    Support increased when people were told “Medicare-for-all” would guarantee health insurance as a right (71 percent) and eliminate premiums and reduce out-of-pocket costs (67 percent).

    But if they were told that a government-run system could lead to delays in getting care or higher taxes, support plunged to 26 percent and 37 percent, respectively. Support fell to 32 percent if it would threaten the current Medicare program.

    “The issue that will really be fundamental would be the tax issue,” said Robert Blendon, a professor at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health who reviewed the poll. He pointed out that state single-payer efforts in Vermont and Colorado failed because of concerns about the tax increases needed to put them in place.

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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Bendintheriver said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    The democrat voter just knows that someone else is going to be paying for their free healthcare.
    Of the people that support Medicare for all that's their biggest motivation. "Free" shit. And as you saw with the poll numbers even the parasites who what more "free" shit from the government once they found out it wasn't going to be "free" their support disappeared and that's why Harris is no longer talking about Medicare for All
    Gosh Hondo, why are you showing me a poll from last year? As soon as people found out that the "costs" were going to include an increase in taxes and the loss of their private insurance support for it fucking cratered.


    Link?
    Gofuckyourself.com
    Lil lyin Bob can't back up his mouth again. Pussy.
    There's no point in trying to educate your ignorant ass Hondo. If you're so fucking uninformed that you're not aware that support for "Medicare for All" drops like a stone when you tell people that it will cause them to lose their private insurance and pay higher taxes, something that has been discussed here a number a times, then there's no point in discussing the issue with such an ignorant dumbfuck. I will administer a swift steel toed boot to your snatch if you like because I believe that may be the one thing that might help you.
    Lol lyin Bob again. You just can't help yourself.
    Hell Hondo, you even previously posted that exact same fucking stupid Fox Online poll. Like I said, there's no point trying to educate your ignorant ass. This is just one of the many times this information has been posted here.



    The poll found that Americans initially support “Medicare-for-all,” 56 percent to 42 percent.

    However, those numbers shifted dramatically when people were asked about the potential impact, pro and con.

    Support increased when people were told “Medicare-for-all” would guarantee health insurance as a right (71 percent) and eliminate premiums and reduce out-of-pocket costs (67 percent).

    But if they were told that a government-run system could lead to delays in getting care or higher taxes, support plunged to 26 percent and 37 percent, respectively. Support fell to 32 percent if it would threaten the current Medicare program.

    “The issue that will really be fundamental would be the tax issue,” said Robert Blendon, a professor at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health who reviewed the poll. He pointed out that state single-payer efforts in Vermont and Colorado failed because of concerns about the tax increases needed to put them in place.

    Yes Bob and I posted the same response. You have zero evidence it will end private insurance or increase wait times. Idiot.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Bendintheriver said:

    Sledog said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    I enjoy that the people most against Medicare For All have literally no clue what it even means.

    I enjoy how people for it think it's free and have no clue how to pay for it.
    The democrat voter just knows that someone else is going to be paying for their free healthcare.
    Of the people that support Medicare for all that's their biggest motivation. "Free" shit. And as you saw with the poll numbers even the parasites who what more "free" shit from the government once they found out it wasn't going to be "free" their support disappeared and that's why Harris is no longer talking about Medicare for All
    Gosh Hondo, why are you showing me a poll from last year? As soon as people found out that the "costs" were going to include an increase in taxes and the loss of their private insurance support for it fucking cratered.


    Link?
    Gofuckyourself.com
    Lil lyin Bob can't back up his mouth again. Pussy.
    There's no point in trying to educate your ignorant ass Hondo. If you're so fucking uninformed that you're not aware that support for "Medicare for All" drops like a stone when you tell people that it will cause them to lose their private insurance and pay higher taxes, something that has been discussed here a number a times, then there's no point in discussing the issue with such an ignorant dumbfuck. I will administer a swift steel toed boot to your snatch if you like because I believe that may be the one thing that might help you.
    Lol lyin Bob again. You just can't help yourself.
    Hell Hondo, you even previously posted that exact same fucking stupid Fox Online poll. Like I said, there's no point trying to educate your ignorant ass. This is just one of the many times this information has been posted here.



    The poll found that Americans initially support “Medicare-for-all,” 56 percent to 42 percent.

    However, those numbers shifted dramatically when people were asked about the potential impact, pro and con.

    Support increased when people were told “Medicare-for-all” would guarantee health insurance as a right (71 percent) and eliminate premiums and reduce out-of-pocket costs (67 percent).

    But if they were told that a government-run system could lead to delays in getting care or higher taxes, support plunged to 26 percent and 37 percent, respectively. Support fell to 32 percent if it would threaten the current Medicare program.

    “The issue that will really be fundamental would be the tax issue,” said Robert Blendon, a professor at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health who reviewed the poll. He pointed out that state single-payer efforts in Vermont and Colorado failed because of concerns about the tax increases needed to put them in place.

    Yes Bob and I posted the same response. You have zero evidence it will end private insurance or increase wait times. Idiot.
    Fucking Sanders himself says it ends private insurance but Hondo the dumb Kunt who didn’t know Social Security existed in the 1950s, he “knows” what’s going to happen.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited August 2019
    Bernie Sanders is pushing a "Medicare for All" bill, which would create a government-run program and end private insurance.


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/07/18/these-2020-democrats-want-medicare-for-all-but-with-private-insurance.html


    But, but there is zero evidence that it would get rid of private insurance!!!!

    Hondo the fucking moronic pathological lying piece of shit strikes again
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