Live look at Oregon recruiting
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StrongArmCobra said:
UW mowed over his WSU D-lines every year. Will be no different at Oregon. He's just not recruiting well enough. I'd be calling for him to be fired if Ilawsandl said:Lol, what does he have to do to get your “developer” tag? He took kids like Barber (off the field issues not talent prevented him from signing), Cooper, Vaeao and the played a major role with Ekuale and Hercules in making the all conference type players. A lot of why WSU was in a good spot after he left was because he identified talent and developed there.
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Until last year he was a huge failure recruiting DL despite us being *absolutely desperate* with tons of PT available.lawsandl said:He won’t break out this year. Hopefully he redshirts. Also, big Joe has better incoming talent than he did at Wazzu. Lol.
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In 2017 he was hired in December(ish) and landed Faoliu with Popo, Rutger and Scott in the fold. Later Young was acquired.dtd said:
Until last year he was a huge failure recruiting DL despite us being *absolutely desperate* with tons of PT available.lawsandl said:He won’t break out this year. Hopefully he redshirts. Also, big Joe has better incoming talent than he did at Wazzu. Lol.
2018 he takes Vea Kava and Drew Faoliu.
I think the fan base expected too much. The first class was what could be expected. His second was disappointing. His third was good.
The good news is Vea Kava and Drew Faoliu look like they will contribute in their second year. So, he’s identifying and developing.
Shipley and Afaese are C+ players in a class devoid of solid B or A talent. Van Fillinger has great testing numbers but is small and doesn’t have great tape and underperformed in camps.
Besides, there are dudes like Swinson and Harris that are still being recruited that grade the same or better. -
That's one starter in Austin Faoliu. Meanwhile we run a 3-4 and literally have no backup 0 tech despite it being arguably the single biggest position of need on the defense for a number of years running.lawsandl said:
In 2017 he was hired in December(ish) and landed Faoliu with Popo, Rutger and Scott in the fold. Later Young was acquired.dtd said:
Until last year he was a huge failure recruiting DL despite us being *absolutely desperate* with tons of PT available.lawsandl said:He won’t break out this year. Hopefully he redshirts. Also, big Joe has better incoming talent than he did at Wazzu. Lol.
2018 he takes Vea Kava and Drew Faoliu.
I think the fan base expected too much. The first class was what could be expected. His second was disappointing. His third was good.
The good news is Vea Kava and Drew Faoliu look like they will contribute in their second year. So, he’s identifying and developing.
Shipley and Afaese are C+ players in a class devoid of solid B or A talent. Van Fillinger has great testing numbers but is small and doesn’t have great tape and underperformed in camps.
Besides, there are dudes like Swinson and Harris that are still being recruited that grade the same or better. -
We’ll see what happens with Vea Kava. Aumave looked serviceable finally in the O tech against MSU but that OL was terrible (though center being a strength). Popo was still recovering strength from his frosh year shoulder injury, so it’s a good sign that he contributed good snaps in the bowl game. I am hoping he is someone we hear about in camp. Also, Poti is strong enough to play the zero and he doesn’t need to be 330. Especially since Dorlus and Williams will be huge 3-4 ends. He’s generously listed at 6’2” and if he ends up 305 or so, he’s very capable with his strength numbers.dtd said:
That's one starter in Austin Faoliu. Meanwhile we run a 3-4 and literally have no backup 0 tech despite it being arguably the single biggest position of need on the defense for a number of years running.lawsandl said:
In 2017 he was hired in December(ish) and landed Faoliu with Popo, Rutger and Scott in the fold. Later Young was acquired.dtd said:
Until last year he was a huge failure recruiting DL despite us being *absolutely desperate* with tons of PT available.lawsandl said:He won’t break out this year. Hopefully he redshirts. Also, big Joe has better incoming talent than he did at Wazzu. Lol.
2018 he takes Vea Kava and Drew Faoliu.
I think the fan base expected too much. The first class was what could be expected. His second was disappointing. His third was good.
The good news is Vea Kava and Drew Faoliu look like they will contribute in their second year. So, he’s identifying and developing.
Shipley and Afaese are C+ players in a class devoid of solid B or A talent. Van Fillinger has great testing numbers but is small and doesn’t have great tape and underperformed in camps.
Besides, there are dudes like Swinson and Harris that are still being recruited that grade the same or better. -
UW didn't have a problem moving the ball on Oregon last season. They should have ran the ball more because it was working, even with McGrew and Pleasant in the game in the second half.lawsandl said:
Right, because you mowed down Oregon’s DL for whooping 24 points in regulation.StrongArmCobra said:
UW mowed over his WSU D-lines every year. Will be no different at Oregon. He's just not recruiting well enough. I'd be calling for him to be fired if I was you but I guess you have lower standards.lawsandl said:Lol, what does he have to do to get your “developer” tag? He took kids like Barber (off the field issues not talent prevented him from signing), Cooper, Vaeao and the played a major role with Ekuale and Hercules in making the all conference type players. A lot of why WSU was in a good spot after he left was because he identified talent and developed there.
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There's really not any statistical evidence to support that claim.StrongArmCobra said:
UW didn't have a problem moving the ball on Oregon last season. They should have ran the ball more because it was working, even with McGrew and Pleasant in the game in the second half.lawsandl said:
Right, because you mowed down Oregon’s DL for whooping 24 points in regulation.StrongArmCobra said:
UW mowed over his WSU D-lines every year. Will be no different at Oregon. He's just not recruiting well enough. I'd be calling for him to be fired if I was you but I guess you have lower standards.lawsandl said:Lol, what does he have to do to get your “developer” tag? He took kids like Barber (off the field issues not talent prevented him from signing), Cooper, Vaeao and the played a major role with Ekuale and Hercules in making the all conference type players. A lot of why WSU was in a good spot after he left was because he identified talent and developed there.
First of all, UW ran the ball 66% of the time. You are in diminishing returns territory if you go beyond that. Secondly, outside of Gaskin, you couldn't sustain successful drives with a 4.1 ypc and the variance there was in outcomes. You had rate at a 33% unsuccessful rate in the run game that put you behind the chains with over 10% rate in negative plays.
Bottom line the running game was pretty mediocre and more of it wasn't the answer, especially with Gaskin hurt.
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UW out gained Oregon on the road and had a pretty good day rushing the ball even without Myles Gaskin in the second half. Oregon's D-line did not outperform UW's O-line. Oregon's D-line recruiting is getting worse, not better. UW will have no problem running the ball on Oregon for years to come. No more stacking the box because you know noodle arm can't beat you deep. Our next QB's can all bomb it down the field and we have and are getting the WR talent to go deep. Oregon can either get ran on or get the ball thrown over their heads, take your pick.lawsandl said:
There's really not any statistical evidence to support that claim.StrongArmCobra said:
UW didn't have a problem moving the ball on Oregon last season. They should have ran the ball more because it was working, even with McGrew and Pleasant in the game in the second half.lawsandl said:
Right, because you mowed down Oregon’s DL for whooping 24 points in regulation.StrongArmCobra said:
UW mowed over his WSU D-lines every year. Will be no different at Oregon. He's just not recruiting well enough. I'd be calling for him to be fired if I was you but I guess you have lower standards.lawsandl said:Lol, what does he have to do to get your “developer” tag? He took kids like Barber (off the field issues not talent prevented him from signing), Cooper, Vaeao and the played a major role with Ekuale and Hercules in making the all conference type players. A lot of why WSU was in a good spot after he left was because he identified talent and developed there.
First of all, UW ran the ball 66% of the time. You are in diminishing returns territory if you go beyond that. Secondly, outside of Gaskin, you couldn't sustain successful drives with a 4.1 ypc and the variance there was in outcomes. You had rate at a 33% unsuccessful rate in the run game that put you behind the chains with over 10% rate in negative plays.
Bottom line the running game was pretty mediocre and more of it wasn't the answer, especially with Gaskin hurt. -
StrongArmCobra said:
UW out gained Oregon on the road and had a pretty good day rushing the ball even without Myles Gaskin in the second half. Oregon's D-line did not outperform UW's O-line. Oregon's D-line recruiting is getting worse, not better. UW will have no problem running the ball on Oregon for years to come. No more stacking the box because you know noodle arm can't beat you deep. Our next QB's can all bomb it down the field and we have and are getting the WR talent to go deep. Oregon can either getlawsandl said:
There's really not any statistical evidence to support that claim.StrongArmCobra said:
UW didn't have a problem moving the ball on Oregon last season. They should have ran the ball more because it was working, even with McGrew and Pleasant in the game in the second half.lawsandl said:
Right, because you mowed down Oregon’s DL for whooping 24 points in regulation.StrongArmCobra said:
UW mowed over his WSU D-lines every year. Will be no different at Oregon. He's just not recruiting well enough. I'd be calling for him to be fired if I was you but I guess you have lower standards.lawsandl said:Lol, what does he have to do to get your “developer” tag? He took kids like Barber (off the field issues not talent prevented him from signing), Cooper, Vaeao and the played a major role with Ekuale and Hercules in making the all conference type players. A lot of why WSU was in a good spot after he left was because he identified talent and developed there.
First of all, UW ran the ball 66% of the time. You are in diminishing returns territory if you go beyond that. Secondly, outside of Gaskin, you couldn't sustain successful drives with a 4.1 ypc and the variance there was in outcomes. You had rate at a 33% unsuccessful rate in the run game that put you behind the chains with over 10% rate in negative plays.
Bottom line the running game was pretty mediocre and more of it wasn't the answer, especially with Gaskin hurt.ranrun on or get the ball thrown over their heads, take your pick.
