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Cooper McDonald, 2020 3* LB, Justin (Northwest), TX (Committed)

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  • MelloDawgMelloDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,821 Swaye's Wigwam
    Personally I can't wait to get him into camp so we can get him the fuck out of here
  • SourcesSources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,302 Founders Club

    Lol get the fuck right out of here with that shit. Sacks by DBs and inside linebackers all of a sudden don't count because you say so. Got it.

    Jesus Christ you have a complete inability to ever admit you're wrong. Shit, I'd respect you more if you just slinked away and never acknowledged the fact that you were wrong. But nah, it's always your instinct to move the goal posts and twist whatever dumb shit you initially said to try to save face and somehow prove yourself right. Which you almost never are.
    Don't overthink it - he's a narcissistic dumbfuck. He's basically Trump of HH.
  • NLdawgNLdawg Member Posts: 53

    Process isn’t just about missing the players in front. Cooper was targeted at ILB by Gregory and Gregory even took him and his family on a one on one campus tour. Once we lost Herbig, Coach K took over his recruitment, much like Bush took over WR recruiting while Lubick was fucking up last year. Then there is the lack of unofficial visits from ILBs in Cali and being late to offer Julien Simon in the midst of Gregory’s struggles connecting with players. Should we even mention Flowe who’s best friends with Cam Davis?



    Grading recruiting process isn’t about grading the player because we’re at a level now where every player that comes here is going to be decent. This is about grading and evaluating coaches.

    Seems like this is a bit of a moving target, but we’ve agreed:

    1. McDonald is, in DDY parlance, “fine.”
    2. Gregory leaves a lot to be desired.

    Ballz has now infected this thread so on to the next.
  • CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    You obviously know what the fuck I meant. If we are discussing UW's pass rush, sacks from blitzing linebackers and DB's shouldn't be in the fucking discussion. That skews the data and it's a sign that you aren't good enough with your front 4 if you have to supplement the pass rush with other guys who should be in coverage. The pass rush has been a weak link for this team since Kikaha left. You're trying to say it wasn't so bad and it's bullshit. It's been bad for years now.
    A pass rush doesn’t matter what position you get it through you dumbass.

    Eat a lot of paint chips as a kid? Live near the power lines? Huff gas? Abundance?
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    You obviously know what the fuck I meant. If we are discussing UW's pass rush, sacks from blitzing linebackers and DB's shouldn't be in the fucking discussion. That skews the data and it's a sign that you aren't good enough with your front 4 if you have to supplement the pass rush with other guys who should be in coverage. The pass rush has been a weak link for this team since Kikaha left. You're trying to say it wasn't so bad and it's bullshit. It's been bad for years now.
    This is too stupid to engage with, but I can't help myself.

    Blitzing DBs and inside linebackers to cover for deficient pass rushers on the edge and still generating an effective pass rush is called great scheming. HTFH.

    And shut the fuck up about "skewing data". You don't even have the data in the first place that says our ends and OLBs generate less sacks than half of the conference. But that's not the fucking point, so don't bother coming up with a half baked rebuttal to that.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019

    This is too stupid to engage with, but I can't help myself.

    Blitzing DBs and inside linebackers to cover for deficient pass rushers on the edge and still generating an effective pass rush is called great scheming. HTFH.

    And shut the fuck up about "skewing data". You don't even have the data in the first place that says our ends and OLBs generate less sacks than half of the conference. But that's not the fucking point, so don't bother coming up with a half baked rebuttal to that.
    It's not great scheming you dumb ass. Blitzing weakens your coverage ability. Every DC would rather just get pressure and sacks with four guys upfront and not have to blitz.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735

    A pass rush doesn’t matter what position you get it through you dumbass.

    Eat a lot of paint chips as a kid? Live near the power lines? Huff gas? Abundance?
    It does matter. Less guys in coverage to help out the pass rush is not what you want in order to generate a decent pass rush. Maybe go watch the Penn State and Ohio State games again. We haven't had a good pass rush.
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    A pass rush doesn’t matter what position you get it through you dumbass.

    Eat a lot of paint chips as a kid? Live near the power lines? Huff gas? Abundance?
    Ballz always struck me as a whippits kind of kid. That shit will kill your brain cells at breakneck speed.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735

    Ballz always struck me as a whippits kind of kid. That shit will kill your brain cells at breakneck speed.
    Sounds like you're speaking from experience.
  • 1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,691 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited July 2019

    This is too stupid to engage with, but I can't help myself.

    Blitzing DBs and inside linebackers to cover for deficient pass rushers on the edge and still generating an effective pass rush is called great scheming. HTFH.

    And shut the fuck up about "skewing data". You don't even have the data in the first place that says our ends and OLBs generate less sacks than half of the conference. But that's not the fucking point, so don't bother coming up with a half baked rebuttal to that.

  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,077
    I’m going to laugh if this guy turns out to be really good
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Tequilla said:

    I’m going to laugh if this guy turns out to be really good

    I think he is going to be good,
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,077
    All depends if he has the necessary athletic ability
  • GladstoneGladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    Him being developed and turning out pretty good was never the point of contention here.
  • LaMichael_CorleoneLaMichael_Corleone Member Posts: 1,316
    FirePete said:

    I think he is going to be good,
    Tequilla said:

    I’m going to laugh if this guy turns out to be really good

    @NLdawg this is an example of what I meant by evaluating the process of recruiting isn’t about grading the player, it’s about grading the coach.


    No one thinks Cooper McDonald or Mason West are going to be bad players. At least I don’t and I really try not criticize abilities and projections of HS kids. Differentiating a player’s abilities and how well of a job a coach did recruiting isn’t really a “strawman argument” when people often blur the lines by saying stuff like this or saying that UDUB did a good job of recruiting LB’s in 2017 just because Joe Tryon is good.
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    @NLdawg this is an example of what I meant by evaluating the process of recruiting isn’t about grading the player, it’s about grading the coach.


    No one thinks Cooper McDonald or Mason West are going to be bad players. At least I don’t and I really try not criticize abilities and projections of HS kids. Differentiating a player’s abilities and how well of a job a coach did recruiting isn’t really a “strawman argument” when people often blur the lines by saying stuff like this or saying that UDUB did a good job of recruiting LB’s in 2017 just because Joe Tryon is good.
    Ohh I understand that the coach is not doing their part.

    But I am looking at from a roster point of view he has the tools to be a good player. So he is not Kyler many who is eating up roster spot
  • LaMichael_CorleoneLaMichael_Corleone Member Posts: 1,316
    FirePete said:

    Ohh I understand that the coach is not doing their part.

    But I am looking at from a roster point of view he has the tools to be a good player. So he is not Kyler many who is eating up roster spot
    No I got you. I just wanted to show examples of how people can read what you posted and then make the jump to equate: if a player is good = the job of recruiting by the coach
  • NLdawgNLdawg Member Posts: 53

    No I got you. I just wanted to show examples of how people can read what you posted and then make the jump to equate: if a player is good = the job of recruiting by the coach
    I agree to an extent. But if you’re saying we can’t evaluate the quality of a coach’s recruiting work relative to how that player turns out, I think that’s wrong. A big (maybe the biggest) part of recruiting is projecting how a guy will develop after 2-3 years in the program. That’s where we’ve separated ourselves from most programs.

    The counter to this is the thought that nearly everyone will develop to their potential in our program so we need to go after the highest ceiling guys bc our program is sure to get them to that ceiling. While it’s certainly true that our program can be gas on the fire for the most talented guys, the buy in we expect is extraordinary. There are guys who lack the make up to handle it and flame out. If a coach fails to project in that regard and we waste a scholly, that’s as bad or worse than missing on targets or process failures.

    TLDR: How a player turns out is relevant to evaluation of the recruiting job.
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