Trade wars are good and easy to win!
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Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though. -
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though. -
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens -
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
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Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself? -
He did his homework. And Doog not made a contention he can't back up.TurdBomber said:
Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself? -
Try to keep up.TurdBomber said:
Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself? -
“Requesting’ links is not doing your homework.2001400ex said:
He did his homework. And Doog not made a contention he can't back up.TurdBomber said:
Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself?
You lazy POS. -
Get a bigger gun and do the job right.GDS said:
Try to keep up.TurdBomber said:
Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself? -
JFC. Pathetic.TurdBomber said:
Get a bigger gun and do the job right.GDS said:
Try to keep up.TurdBomber said:
Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself? -
Plagiarisming LowIQCirrho is pathetic.GDS said:
JFC. Pathetic.TurdBomber said:
Get a bigger gun and do the job right.GDS said:
Try to keep up.TurdBomber said:
Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself?
But don’t let that stop you. -
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/chinas-economy-growth-cools-further-amid-us-tariff-war
Trump is going balls deep on China. @dflea - how are farmers hurt? I hear this a lot, even from Trump, but I don't understand it. Unless we? are selling a lot of farmed products to China, I honestly don't know. Trump claims the farmers are willing to suck it up for what looks like a good outcome. Also @dflea, do you really think China is NOT playing the long game to take over the world? Do you think China would NOT cheat if there were a level playing field? (If so, see steel industry) -
I'm hearing that GDP growth is the most important measure of an economy. They are still kicking our? ass. In fact they are still growing more than double America.89ute said:https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/chinas-economy-growth-cools-further-amid-us-tariff-war
Trump is going balls deep on China. @dflea - how are farmers hurt? I hear this a lot, even from Trump, but I don't understand it. Unless we? are selling a lot of farmed products to China, I honestly don't know. Trump claims the farmers are willing to suck it up for what looks like a good outcome. Also @dflea, do you really think China is NOT playing the long game to take over the world? Do you think China would NOT cheat if there were a level playing field? (If so, see steel industry) -
I don't know what this means:2001400ex said:
I'm hearing that GDP growth is the most important measure of an economy. They are still kicking our? ass. In fact they are still growing more than double America.89ute said:https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/chinas-economy-growth-cools-further-amid-us-tariff-war
Trump is going balls deep on China. @dflea - how are farmers hurt? I hear this a lot, even from Trump, but I don't understand it. Unless we? are selling a lot of farmed products to China, I honestly don't know. Trump claims the farmers are willing to suck it up for what looks like a good outcome. Also @dflea, do you really think China is NOT playing the long game to take over the world? Do you think China would NOT cheat if there were a level playing field? (If so, see steel industry)
China Just Overtook The US As The World's Largest Economy. ... According to the World Bank, US real GDP is much larger than China's real GDP. According to other sources, the US economy is still larger than China's economy, measured by real GDP
And I doubt you do either. Point being, China is hurting, and that's a good thing. -
You missed the joke. HTH89ute said:
I don't know what this means:2001400ex said:
I'm hearing that GDP growth is the most important measure of an economy. They are still kicking our? ass. In fact they are still growing more than double America.89ute said:https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/chinas-economy-growth-cools-further-amid-us-tariff-war
Trump is going balls deep on China. @dflea - how are farmers hurt? I hear this a lot, even from Trump, but I don't understand it. Unless we? are selling a lot of farmed products to China, I honestly don't know. Trump claims the farmers are willing to suck it up for what looks like a good outcome. Also @dflea, do you really think China is NOT playing the long game to take over the world? Do you think China would NOT cheat if there were a level playing field? (If so, see steel industry)
China Just Overtook The US As The World's Largest Economy. ... According to the World Bank, US real GDP is much larger than China's real GDP. According to other sources, the US economy is still larger than China's economy, measured by real GDP
And I doubt you do either. Point being, China is hurting, and that's a good thing. -
There is so much stupid in this comment it could only come from HondoFS...2001400ex said:
I'm hearing that GDP growth is the most important measure of an economy. They are still kicking our? ass. In fact they are still growing more than double America.89ute said:https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/chinas-economy-growth-cools-further-amid-us-tariff-war
Trump is going balls deep on China. @dflea - how are farmers hurt? I hear this a lot, even from Trump, but I don't understand it. Unless we? are selling a lot of farmed products to China, I honestly don't know. Trump claims the farmers are willing to suck it up for what looks like a good outcome. Also @dflea, do you really think China is NOT playing the long game to take over the world? Do you think China would NOT cheat if there were a level playing field? (If so, see steel industry)
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Two words. Slave labor.2001400ex said:
I'm hearing that GDP growth is the most important measure of an economy. They are still kicking our? ass. In fact they are still growing more than double America.89ute said:https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/chinas-economy-growth-cools-further-amid-us-tariff-war
Trump is going balls deep on China. @dflea - how are farmers hurt? I hear this a lot, even from Trump, but I don't understand it. Unless we? are selling a lot of farmed products to China, I honestly don't know. Trump claims the farmers are willing to suck it up for what looks like a good outcome. Also @dflea, do you really think China is NOT playing the long game to take over the world? Do you think China would NOT cheat if there were a level playing field? (If so, see steel industry) -
One word: Nike. (Parent Company, U of O)Sledog said:
Two words. Slave labor.2001400ex said:
I'm hearing that GDP growth is the most important measure of an economy. They are still kicking our? ass. In fact they are still growing more than double America.89ute said:https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/chinas-economy-growth-cools-further-amid-us-tariff-war
Trump is going balls deep on China. @dflea - how are farmers hurt? I hear this a lot, even from Trump, but I don't understand it. Unless we? are selling a lot of farmed products to China, I honestly don't know. Trump claims the farmers are willing to suck it up for what looks like a good outcome. Also @dflea, do you really think China is NOT playing the long game to take over the world? Do you think China would NOT cheat if there were a level playing field? (If so, see steel industry) -
Well we are selling a lot of farmed products to China, soybeans probably being the most notable. And keep in mind these farmers are also getting pinched by the higher steel and aluminum costs that Trump so wisely threw tarrifs on. Farm equipment ain't cheap. Bottom line, farmers are getting fucked.89ute said:https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/chinas-economy-growth-cools-further-amid-us-tariff-war
Trump is going balls deep on China. @dflea - how are farmers hurt? I hear this a lot, even from Trump, but I don't understand it. Unless we? are selling a lot of farmed products to China, I honestly don't know. Trump claims the farmers are willing to suck it up for what looks like a good outcome. Also @dflea, do you really think China is NOT playing the long game to take over the world? Do you think China would NOT cheat if there were a level playing field? (If so, see steel industry)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1191088001 -
No one expected the Chicoms to continue with growth rates of 9-10-11% and it's been declining for some time. 6.2% is still pretty damn good although since it comes from the Chinese it's probably not true.89ute said:https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/chinas-economy-growth-cools-further-amid-us-tariff-war
Trump is going balls deep on China. @dflea - how are farmers hurt? I hear this a lot, even from Trump, but I don't understand it. Unless we? are selling a lot of farmed products to China, I honestly don't know. Trump claims the farmers are willing to suck it up for what looks like a good outcome. Also @dflea, do you really think China is NOT playing the long game to take over the world? Do you think China would NOT cheat if there were a level playing field? (If so, see steel industry)
Steel industry is a prime example of targeted tariffs having their desired affect. Chinese were dumping steel and Obama implemented massive anti-dumping steel tariffs on the Chinese which effectively ended Chinese steel exports to the US.
US farmers are hurt because the Chinese have decimated the US soybean market which was formerly one of our largest exports to China. -
It's Hard.TurdBomber said:
Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
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Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself?
[Imports to China plunged 7.3 percent from a year earlier to USD 161.86 billion in June 2019, much worse than forecasts of a 4.5 percent drop, a further sign of weak domestic demand that could lead Beijing to add more stimulus. Purchases fell for: unwrought copper (-27.2 percent); iron ore (-9.7 percent); and soybeans (-25.1 percent) amid higher tariff on US cargoes and following outbreaks of African swine fever. By contrast, increases were seen in imports of crude oil (15.2 percent) and coal (6.4 percent). Among China's largest trade partners, imports fell from the US (-31.4 percent), South Korea (-21.9 percent), Taiwan (-7.4 percent) and Japan (-5 percent), but grew from the EU (8.6 percent), Australia (8.8 percent) and ASEAN (0.4 percent). Imports in China averaged 537.99 USD HML from 1981 until 2019, reaching an all time high of 1951.30 USD HML in September of 2018 and a record low of 13.88 USD HML in February of 1983.] -
Which doesn't say what you claimed it did. shocker...UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's Hard.TurdBomber said:
Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
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Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself?
[Imports to China plunged 7.3 percent from a year earlier to USD 161.86 billion in June 2019, much worse than forecasts of a 4.5 percent drop, a further sign of weak domestic demand that could lead Beijing to add more stimulus. Purchases fell for: unwrought copper (-27.2 percent); iron ore (-9.7 percent); and soybeans (-25.1 percent) amid higher tariff on US cargoes and following outbreaks of African swine fever. By contrast, increases were seen in imports of crude oil (15.2 percent) and coal (6.4 percent). Among China's largest trade partners, imports fell from the US (-31.4 percent), South Korea (-21.9 percent), Taiwan (-7.4 percent) and Japan (-5 percent), but grew from the EU (8.6 percent), Australia (8.8 percent) and ASEAN (0.4 percent). Imports in China averaged 537.99 USD HML from 1981 until 2019, reaching an all time high of 1951.30 USD HML in September of 2018 and a record low of 13.88 USD HML in February of 1983.] -
Ah, I see you just want to be a salty cunt. Let me know when you start being able to use google.GDS said:
Which doesn't say what you claimed it did. shocker...UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's Hard.TurdBomber said:
Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself?
[Imports to China plunged 7.3 percent from a year earlier to USD 161.86 billion in June 2019, much worse than forecasts of a 4.5 percent drop, a further sign of weak domestic demand that could lead Beijing to add more stimulus. Purchases fell for: unwrought copper (-27.2 percent); iron ore (-9.7 percent); and soybeans (-25.1 percent) amid higher tariff on US cargoes and following outbreaks of African swine fever. By contrast, increases were seen in imports of crude oil (15.2 percent) and coal (6.4 percent). Among China's largest trade partners, imports fell from the US (-31.4 percent), South Korea (-21.9 percent), Taiwan (-7.4 percent) and Japan (-5 percent), but grew from the EU (8.6 percent), Australia (8.8 percent) and ASEAN (0.4 percent). Imports in China averaged 537.99 USD HML from 1981 until 2019, reaching an all time high of 1951.30 USD HML in September of 2018 and a record low of 13.88 USD HML in February of 1983.]
[The cuts also come months after the company blamed a $5 billion to $9 billion revenue shortfall in the fourth quarter of 2018 on “lower than anticipated ” iPhone sales and demand in China, Taiwan and Hong Kong.]
[Apple's iPhone sales in China were down 30 percent during the first quarter of 2019, according to new shipment estimates shared today by Canalys.
Apple shipped an estimated 6.5 million iPhones during the quarter, marking its worst decline in two years. It shipped fewer smartphones in the country than Chinese vendors Xiaomi, Vivo, Oppo, and Huawei, coming in as the number five brand in China. ]
[In many cases, however, the impacted products have dropped by even more, including a 500 yuan ($74) price cut to the iPhone XS, marking a nearly 6 percent drop for the company’s latest flagship.
Along with an adjustment for tax rates, the drop is likely also due, in part, to a lagging demand for products like the iPhone in the world’s largest smartphone market. Early this year, Apple blamed lower than expected earnings on weak demand for the iPhone in China.]
Shocking that you'll double down and deny that this is indicative of a market trend. Good thing I already put that evidence above. -
Even your own link shows that the decline is due to consumer demand shifting to competitors products not due to an overall decline (or as you put it "cratered") in so called luxury goods. Hell the latest iphone isn't as popular in the US as previous incarnations.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Ah, I see you just want to be a salty cunt. Let me know when you start being able to use google.GDS said:
Which doesn't say what you claimed it did. shocker...UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's Hard.TurdBomber said:
Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself?
[Imports to China plunged 7.3 percent from a year earlier to USD 161.86 billion in June 2019, much worse than forecasts of a 4.5 percent drop, a further sign of weak domestic demand that could lead Beijing to add more stimulus. Purchases fell for: unwrought copper (-27.2 percent); iron ore (-9.7 percent); and soybeans (-25.1 percent) amid higher tariff on US cargoes and following outbreaks of African swine fever. By contrast, increases were seen in imports of crude oil (15.2 percent) and coal (6.4 percent). Among China's largest trade partners, imports fell from the US (-31.4 percent), South Korea (-21.9 percent), Taiwan (-7.4 percent) and Japan (-5 percent), but grew from the EU (8.6 percent), Australia (8.8 percent) and ASEAN (0.4 percent). Imports in China averaged 537.99 USD HML from 1981 until 2019, reaching an all time high of 1951.30 USD HML in September of 2018 and a record low of 13.88 USD HML in February of 1983.]
[The cuts also come months after the company blamed a $5 billion to $9 billion revenue shortfall in the fourth quarter of 2018 on “lower than anticipated ” iPhone sales and demand in China, Taiwan and Hong Kong.]
[Apple's iPhone sales in China were down 30 percent during the first quarter of 2019, according to new shipment estimates shared today by Canalys.
Apple shipped an estimated 6.5 million iPhones during the quarter, marking its worst decline in two years. It shipped fewer smartphones in the country than Chinese vendors Xiaomi, Vivo, Oppo, and Huawei, coming in as the number five brand in China. ]
[In many cases, however, the impacted products have dropped by even more, including a 500 yuan ($74) price cut to the iPhone XS, marking a nearly 6 percent drop for the company’s latest flagship.
Along with an adjustment for tax rates, the drop is likely also due, in part, to a lagging demand for products like the iPhone in the world’s largest smartphone market. Early this year, Apple blamed lower than expected earnings on weak demand for the iPhone in China.]
Shocking that you'll double down and deny that this is indicative of a market trend. Good thing I already put that evidence above.
Much of the current decline of imports into China can be attributed to reduced buying of iron ore which as you no doubt are aware can ebb and flow as the government wishes and a drop in soybeans which is partly due to the trade war and partly due to the swine flu epidemic which may see 40% of their pigs eventually culled.
Again - your own information doesn't say what you claimed it said... -
But but but...GDS said:
Even your own link shows that the decline is due to consumer demand shifting to competitors products not due to an overall decline (or as you put it "cratered") in so called luxury goods. Hell the latest iphone isn't as popular in the US as previous incarnations.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Ah, I see you just want to be a salty cunt. Let me know when you start being able to use google.GDS said:
Which doesn't say what you claimed it did. shocker...UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's Hard.TurdBomber said:
Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself?
[Imports to China plunged 7.3 percent from a year earlier to USD 161.86 billion in June 2019, much worse than forecasts of a 4.5 percent drop, a further sign of weak domestic demand that could lead Beijing to add more stimulus. Purchases fell for: unwrought copper (-27.2 percent); iron ore (-9.7 percent); and soybeans (-25.1 percent) amid higher tariff on US cargoes and following outbreaks of African swine fever. By contrast, increases were seen in imports of crude oil (15.2 percent) and coal (6.4 percent). Among China's largest trade partners, imports fell from the US (-31.4 percent), South Korea (-21.9 percent), Taiwan (-7.4 percent) and Japan (-5 percent), but grew from the EU (8.6 percent), Australia (8.8 percent) and ASEAN (0.4 percent). Imports in China averaged 537.99 USD HML from 1981 until 2019, reaching an all time high of 1951.30 USD HML in September of 2018 and a record low of 13.88 USD HML in February of 1983.]
[The cuts also come months after the company blamed a $5 billion to $9 billion revenue shortfall in the fourth quarter of 2018 on “lower than anticipated ” iPhone sales and demand in China, Taiwan and Hong Kong.]
[Apple's iPhone sales in China were down 30 percent during the first quarter of 2019, according to new shipment estimates shared today by Canalys.
Apple shipped an estimated 6.5 million iPhones during the quarter, marking its worst decline in two years. It shipped fewer smartphones in the country than Chinese vendors Xiaomi, Vivo, Oppo, and Huawei, coming in as the number five brand in China. ]
[In many cases, however, the impacted products have dropped by even more, including a 500 yuan ($74) price cut to the iPhone XS, marking a nearly 6 percent drop for the company’s latest flagship.
Along with an adjustment for tax rates, the drop is likely also due, in part, to a lagging demand for products like the iPhone in the world’s largest smartphone market. Early this year, Apple blamed lower than expected earnings on weak demand for the iPhone in China.]
Shocking that you'll double down and deny that this is indicative of a market trend. Good thing I already put that evidence above.
Much of the current decline of imports into China can be attributed to reduced buying of iron ore which as you no doubt are aware can ebb and flow as the government wishes and a drop in soybeans which is partly due to the trade war and partly due to the swine flu epidemic which may see 40% of their pigs eventually culled.
Again - your own information doesn't say what you claimed it said...
I provided multiple data points that show 1)overall consumption is down 2)sales for a typical "luxury" item and status symbol in China are WAY down. I suppose you think demand for luxury items is up or constant despite two highly correlated data sets saying otherwise. Nevermind there are other companies facing similar problems. I'm sure Rolex is doing well since you can walk across the bridge into HK or Macau with a few on your wrist when the corruption purges begin. Go dig the numbers up and prove me wrong. It's up to you to prove those are anomalies and not part of a broader trend.
Odds are you are a lazy feckless cunt like Hondo who wants everything served to him and will still just quadruple down no matter what's poasted. -
KOUW_Doog_Bot said:
But but but...GDS said:
Even your own link shows that the decline is due to consumer demand shifting to competitors products not due to an overall decline (or as you put it "cratered") in so called luxury goods. Hell the latest iphone isn't as popular in the US as previous incarnations.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Ah, I see you just want to be a salty cunt. Let me know when you start being able to use google.GDS said:
Which doesn't say what you claimed it did. shocker...UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's Hard.TurdBomber said:
Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself?
[Imports to China plunged 7.3 percent from a year earlier to USD 161.86 billion in June 2019, much worse than forecasts of a 4.5 percent drop, a further sign of weak domestic demand that could lead Beijing to add more stimulus. Purchases fell for: unwrought copper (-27.2 percent); iron ore (-9.7 percent); and soybeans (-25.1 percent) amid higher tariff on US cargoes and following outbreaks of African swine fever. By contrast, increases were seen in imports of crude oil (15.2 percent) and coal (6.4 percent). Among China's largest trade partners, imports fell from the US (-31.4 percent), South Korea (-21.9 percent), Taiwan (-7.4 percent) and Japan (-5 percent), but grew from the EU (8.6 percent), Australia (8.8 percent) and ASEAN (0.4 percent). Imports in China averaged 537.99 USD HML from 1981 until 2019, reaching an all time high of 1951.30 USD HML in September of 2018 and a record low of 13.88 USD HML in February of 1983.]
[The cuts also come months after the company blamed a $5 billion to $9 billion revenue shortfall in the fourth quarter of 2018 on “lower than anticipated ” iPhone sales and demand in China, Taiwan and Hong Kong.]
[Apple's iPhone sales in China were down 30 percent during the first quarter of 2019, according to new shipment estimates shared today by Canalys.
Apple shipped an estimated 6.5 million iPhones during the quarter, marking its worst decline in two years. It shipped fewer smartphones in the country than Chinese vendors Xiaomi, Vivo, Oppo, and Huawei, coming in as the number five brand in China. ]
[In many cases, however, the impacted products have dropped by even more, including a 500 yuan ($74) price cut to the iPhone XS, marking a nearly 6 percent drop for the company’s latest flagship.
Along with an adjustment for tax rates, the drop is likely also due, in part, to a lagging demand for products like the iPhone in the world’s largest smartphone market. Early this year, Apple blamed lower than expected earnings on weak demand for the iPhone in China.]
Shocking that you'll double down and deny that this is indicative of a market trend. Good thing I already put that evidence above.
Much of the current decline of imports into China can be attributed to reduced buying of iron ore which as you no doubt are aware can ebb and flow as the government wishes and a drop in soybeans which is partly due to the trade war and partly due to the swine flu epidemic which may see 40% of their pigs eventually culled.
Again - your own information doesn't say what you claimed it said...
I provided multiple data points that show 1)overall consumption is down 2)sales for a typical "luxury" item and status symbol in China are WAY down. I suppose you think demand for luxury items is up or constant despite two highly correlated data sets saying otherwise. Nevermind there are other companies facing similar problems. I'm sure Rolex is doing well since you can walk across the bridge into HK or Macau with a few on your wrist when the corruption purges begin. Go dig the numbers up and prove me wrong. It's up to you to prove those are anomalies and not part of a broader trend.
Odds are you are a lazy feckless cunt like Hondo who wants everything served to him and will still just quadruple down no matter what's poasted.
/thread -
Overall consumption in China isn't down - not sure if you are talking luxury goods here or overall consumption but you have yet to provide data that shows either. You have provided data that shows demand for the iphone declining but Apple slipping from third to fifth in market share for smartphones sold in China isn't necessarily indicative of an overall decline in demand for luxury goods in China. It would be like me showing a link for luxury cometics sales from one brand booming in China and trying to claim that's somehow indicative of the entire luxury goods market. Hell, going back to smartphones, worldwide smartphone demand is declining because as they get more expensive people are hanging onto their smartphones longer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
But but but...GDS said:
Even your own link shows that the decline is due to consumer demand shifting to competitors products not due to an overall decline (or as you put it "cratered") in so called luxury goods. Hell the latest iphone isn't as popular in the US as previous incarnations.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Ah, I see you just want to be a salty cunt. Let me know when you start being able to use google.GDS said:
Which doesn't say what you claimed it did. shocker...UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's Hard.TurdBomber said:
Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself?
[Imports to China plunged 7.3 percent from a year earlier to USD 161.86 billion in June 2019, much worse than forecasts of a 4.5 percent drop, a further sign of weak domestic demand that could lead Beijing to add more stimulus. Purchases fell for: unwrought copper (-27.2 percent); iron ore (-9.7 percent); and soybeans (-25.1 percent) amid higher tariff on US cargoes and following outbreaks of African swine fever. By contrast, increases were seen in imports of crude oil (15.2 percent) and coal (6.4 percent). Among China's largest trade partners, imports fell from the US (-31.4 percent), South Korea (-21.9 percent), Taiwan (-7.4 percent) and Japan (-5 percent), but grew from the EU (8.6 percent), Australia (8.8 percent) and ASEAN (0.4 percent). Imports in China averaged 537.99 USD HML from 1981 until 2019, reaching an all time high of 1951.30 USD HML in September of 2018 and a record low of 13.88 USD HML in February of 1983.]
[The cuts also come months after the company blamed a $5 billion to $9 billion revenue shortfall in the fourth quarter of 2018 on “lower than anticipated ” iPhone sales and demand in China, Taiwan and Hong Kong.]
[Apple's iPhone sales in China were down 30 percent during the first quarter of 2019, according to new shipment estimates shared today by Canalys.
Apple shipped an estimated 6.5 million iPhones during the quarter, marking its worst decline in two years. It shipped fewer smartphones in the country than Chinese vendors Xiaomi, Vivo, Oppo, and Huawei, coming in as the number five brand in China. ]
[In many cases, however, the impacted products have dropped by even more, including a 500 yuan ($74) price cut to the iPhone XS, marking a nearly 6 percent drop for the company’s latest flagship.
Along with an adjustment for tax rates, the drop is likely also due, in part, to a lagging demand for products like the iPhone in the world’s largest smartphone market. Early this year, Apple blamed lower than expected earnings on weak demand for the iPhone in China.]
Shocking that you'll double down and deny that this is indicative of a market trend. Good thing I already put that evidence above.
Much of the current decline of imports into China can be attributed to reduced buying of iron ore which as you no doubt are aware can ebb and flow as the government wishes and a drop in soybeans which is partly due to the trade war and partly due to the swine flu epidemic which may see 40% of their pigs eventually culled.
Again - your own information doesn't say what you claimed it said...
I provided multiple data points that show 1)overall consumption is down 2)sales for a typical "luxury" item and status symbol in China are WAY down. I suppose you think demand for luxury items is up or constant despite two highly correlated data sets saying otherwise. Nevermind there are other companies facing similar problems. I'm sure Rolex is doing well since you can walk across the bridge into HK or Macau with a few on your wrist when the corruption purges begin. Go dig the numbers up and prove me wrong. It's up to you to prove those are anomalies and not part of a broader trend.
Odds are you are a lazy feckless cunt like Hondo who wants everything served to him and will still just quadruple down no matter what's poasted.
You claimed that demand for luxury goods in China has cratered. If I had known that asking for a link to such a claim would devolve into a full on meltdown including posting your bookmark to a gay dating site I would have just ignored your claim. I was honestly curious for the source of your claim as everything I have seen shows luxury goods demand growth slowing but not a "cratering" of overall demand.
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I mispoke. Imports. Not consumption. Best of luck the rest of the way!GDS said:
Overall consumption in China isn't down - not sure if you are talking luxury goods here or overall consumption but you have yet to provide data that shows either. You have provided data that shows demand for the iphone declining but Apple slipping from third to fifth in market share for smartphones sold in China isn't necessarily indicative of an overall decline in demand for luxury goods in China. It would be like me showing a link for luxury cometics sales from one brand booming in China and trying to claim that's somehow indicative of the entire luxury goods market. Hell, going back to smartphones, worldwide smartphone demand is declining because as they get more expensive people are hanging onto their smartphones longer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
But but but...GDS said:
Even your own link shows that the decline is due to consumer demand shifting to competitors products not due to an overall decline (or as you put it "cratered") in so called luxury goods. Hell the latest iphone isn't as popular in the US as previous incarnations.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Ah, I see you just want to be a salty cunt. Let me know when you start being able to use google.GDS said:
Which doesn't say what you claimed it did. shocker...UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's Hard.TurdBomber said:
Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself?
[Imports to China plunged 7.3 percent from a year earlier to USD 161.86 billion in June 2019, much worse than forecasts of a 4.5 percent drop, a further sign of weak domestic demand that could lead Beijing to add more stimulus. Purchases fell for: unwrought copper (-27.2 percent); iron ore (-9.7 percent); and soybeans (-25.1 percent) amid higher tariff on US cargoes and following outbreaks of African swine fever. By contrast, increases were seen in imports of crude oil (15.2 percent) and coal (6.4 percent). Among China's largest trade partners, imports fell from the US (-31.4 percent), South Korea (-21.9 percent), Taiwan (-7.4 percent) and Japan (-5 percent), but grew from the EU (8.6 percent), Australia (8.8 percent) and ASEAN (0.4 percent). Imports in China averaged 537.99 USD HML from 1981 until 2019, reaching an all time high of 1951.30 USD HML in September of 2018 and a record low of 13.88 USD HML in February of 1983.]
[The cuts also come months after the company blamed a $5 billion to $9 billion revenue shortfall in the fourth quarter of 2018 on “lower than anticipated ” iPhone sales and demand in China, Taiwan and Hong Kong.]
[Apple's iPhone sales in China were down 30 percent during the first quarter of 2019, according to new shipment estimates shared today by Canalys.
Apple shipped an estimated 6.5 million iPhones during the quarter, marking its worst decline in two years. It shipped fewer smartphones in the country than Chinese vendors Xiaomi, Vivo, Oppo, and Huawei, coming in as the number five brand in China. ]
[In many cases, however, the impacted products have dropped by even more, including a 500 yuan ($74) price cut to the iPhone XS, marking a nearly 6 percent drop for the company’s latest flagship.
Along with an adjustment for tax rates, the drop is likely also due, in part, to a lagging demand for products like the iPhone in the world’s largest smartphone market. Early this year, Apple blamed lower than expected earnings on weak demand for the iPhone in China.]
Shocking that you'll double down and deny that this is indicative of a market trend. Good thing I already put that evidence above.
Much of the current decline of imports into China can be attributed to reduced buying of iron ore which as you no doubt are aware can ebb and flow as the government wishes and a drop in soybeans which is partly due to the trade war and partly due to the swine flu epidemic which may see 40% of their pigs eventually culled.
Again - your own information doesn't say what you claimed it said...
I provided multiple data points that show 1)overall consumption is down 2)sales for a typical "luxury" item and status symbol in China are WAY down. I suppose you think demand for luxury items is up or constant despite two highly correlated data sets saying otherwise. Nevermind there are other companies facing similar problems. I'm sure Rolex is doing well since you can walk across the bridge into HK or Macau with a few on your wrist when the corruption purges begin. Go dig the numbers up and prove me wrong. It's up to you to prove those are anomalies and not part of a broader trend.
Odds are you are a lazy feckless cunt like Hondo who wants everything served to him and will still just quadruple down no matter what's poasted.
You claimed that demand for luxury goods in China has cratered. If I had known that asking for a link to such a claim would devolve into a full on meltdown including posting your bookmark to a gay dating site I would have just ignored your claim. I was honestly curious for the source of your claim as everything I have seen shows luxury goods demand growth slowing but not a "cratering" of overall demand. -
Understood. Same to you.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I mispoke. Imports. Not consumption. Best of luck the rest of the way!GDS said:
Overall consumption in China isn't down - not sure if you are talking luxury goods here or overall consumption but you have yet to provide data that shows either. You have provided data that shows demand for the iphone declining but Apple slipping from third to fifth in market share for smartphones sold in China isn't necessarily indicative of an overall decline in demand for luxury goods in China. It would be like me showing a link for luxury cometics sales from one brand booming in China and trying to claim that's somehow indicative of the entire luxury goods market. Hell, going back to smartphones, worldwide smartphone demand is declining because as they get more expensive people are hanging onto their smartphones longer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
But but but...GDS said:
Even your own link shows that the decline is due to consumer demand shifting to competitors products not due to an overall decline (or as you put it "cratered") in so called luxury goods. Hell the latest iphone isn't as popular in the US as previous incarnations.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Ah, I see you just want to be a salty cunt. Let me know when you start being able to use google.GDS said:
Which doesn't say what you claimed it did. shocker...UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's Hard.TurdBomber said:
Can you not do your own homework?GDS said:
Sharing your bookmarks I see instead of providing the requested link. Sad.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just for you.GDS said:
Lot of words to say you don’t have oneUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sorry, not sorry I don't provide links for faggots that won't read them anyways. I've already poasted around 50 links on the subject. Maybe PM @IrishDawg22 to get dialed in around here and report back.GDS said:
Take that as a no. Got itUW_Doog_Bot said:
Komo4 butthuffer.GDS said:
Got a link? Everything I have seen shows luxury goods into China still increasing albeit the growth is slowing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that luxury items, like iPhones, have also cratered.GDS said:
The Chinese debt bubble is significant and they could have trouble ahead but replacing US Soybeans with Brazilian soybeans thereby dropping imports from the US isn’t an indication of an oncoming Chinese recession...UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeap, more and more indicators are pointing to recession in China. Fuck the CCP. I hope they get overthrown once they lose the mandate from heaven.GDS said:https://thehill.com/policy/finance/452767-us-imports-to-china-plunge-amid-trade-war
US trade deficit with China increases
U.S. exports to China dropped sharply last month as the Trump administration and Beijing appear no closer to reaching a deal to end a months-long trade war that has affected billions of dollars' worth of goods.
The Associated Press reported Friday that Chinese imports from the U.S. were down 31.4 percent from the same time last year, while the country's surplus from trade with the U.S. grew by 3 percent. U.S. imports from China dropped by a far lower rate — down just 7.8 percent over last year.
Go look, I never said this wouldn't have negative impacts. I just consider the short term loss of soybean exports to be small and bearable compared to 1 trillion in losses from theft a year or a world dominated by the CCP.
Your crocodile tears for big ag are noted though.
Chinese Imports Fall as Trade War Worsens
And then do the world a favor by killing yourself?
[Imports to China plunged 7.3 percent from a year earlier to USD 161.86 billion in June 2019, much worse than forecasts of a 4.5 percent drop, a further sign of weak domestic demand that could lead Beijing to add more stimulus. Purchases fell for: unwrought copper (-27.2 percent); iron ore (-9.7 percent); and soybeans (-25.1 percent) amid higher tariff on US cargoes and following outbreaks of African swine fever. By contrast, increases were seen in imports of crude oil (15.2 percent) and coal (6.4 percent). Among China's largest trade partners, imports fell from the US (-31.4 percent), South Korea (-21.9 percent), Taiwan (-7.4 percent) and Japan (-5 percent), but grew from the EU (8.6 percent), Australia (8.8 percent) and ASEAN (0.4 percent). Imports in China averaged 537.99 USD HML from 1981 until 2019, reaching an all time high of 1951.30 USD HML in September of 2018 and a record low of 13.88 USD HML in February of 1983.]
[The cuts also come months after the company blamed a $5 billion to $9 billion revenue shortfall in the fourth quarter of 2018 on “lower than anticipated ” iPhone sales and demand in China, Taiwan and Hong Kong.]
[Apple's iPhone sales in China were down 30 percent during the first quarter of 2019, according to new shipment estimates shared today by Canalys.
Apple shipped an estimated 6.5 million iPhones during the quarter, marking its worst decline in two years. It shipped fewer smartphones in the country than Chinese vendors Xiaomi, Vivo, Oppo, and Huawei, coming in as the number five brand in China. ]
[In many cases, however, the impacted products have dropped by even more, including a 500 yuan ($74) price cut to the iPhone XS, marking a nearly 6 percent drop for the company’s latest flagship.
Along with an adjustment for tax rates, the drop is likely also due, in part, to a lagging demand for products like the iPhone in the world’s largest smartphone market. Early this year, Apple blamed lower than expected earnings on weak demand for the iPhone in China.]
Shocking that you'll double down and deny that this is indicative of a market trend. Good thing I already put that evidence above.
Much of the current decline of imports into China can be attributed to reduced buying of iron ore which as you no doubt are aware can ebb and flow as the government wishes and a drop in soybeans which is partly due to the trade war and partly due to the swine flu epidemic which may see 40% of their pigs eventually culled.
Again - your own information doesn't say what you claimed it said...
I provided multiple data points that show 1)overall consumption is down 2)sales for a typical "luxury" item and status symbol in China are WAY down. I suppose you think demand for luxury items is up or constant despite two highly correlated data sets saying otherwise. Nevermind there are other companies facing similar problems. I'm sure Rolex is doing well since you can walk across the bridge into HK or Macau with a few on your wrist when the corruption purges begin. Go dig the numbers up and prove me wrong. It's up to you to prove those are anomalies and not part of a broader trend.
Odds are you are a lazy feckless cunt like Hondo who wants everything served to him and will still just quadruple down no matter what's poasted.
You claimed that demand for luxury goods in China has cratered. If I had known that asking for a link to such a claim would devolve into a full on meltdown including posting your bookmark to a gay dating site I would have just ignored your claim. I was honestly curious for the source of your claim as everything I have seen shows luxury goods demand growth slowing but not a "cratering" of overall demand. -
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